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    Posted: 23 May 2019 at 4:37am
Originally posted by toucharaa toucharaa wrote:

is there a work-around that allows OS booting from PCIE SSD on any s1366 PC - I have a Samsung XP941 in a dual socket Xeon rig. Would very much like to boot from it!

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is there a work-around that allows OS booting from PCIE SSD on any s1366 PC - I have a Samsung XP941 in a dual socket Xeon rig. Would very much like to boot from it!
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This is eally very helpful.
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Posting here first in case there is a quick fix for this. I have an ASRock Z97 Extreme4, BIOS v2.5. I have been running a 512 GB SATA3 Samsung SSD. I just cloned from it to a new SM951 256GB AHCI in the M.2 slot with drive letter assignment set to auto. I have the BIOS set to force M.2, and under CSM, Launch Storage OpROM Policy set to UEFI only.  After it was done cloning, I shut down, removed the cable to the SSD and tried to boot from the M.2 drive. The BIOS still sees it, and I can choose it, but it stops at a blank screen, no windows (10). I can still plug in the SSD and boot from it. The M.2 drive is listed as drive I:. Is this my issue? How can I change the M.2 to C:? Is there anything else to check?

My next question will be has anyone successfully used a PCIe 3.0 x4 adapter card in this MB to get the full speed out of the SM951 as a boot drive? 

Now to read the other 18 pages of this thread!


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I have been working all evening on this and I can't seem to boot on my SSD. First I installed the asrock Beta BIOS for the Asrock Z77 Extreme 4(which is the motherboard I am using). I cloned the install of my current Sata SSD and transferred over the new one(I have the NVME driver on my current OS), no luck there. So I installed zorin OS 12 because I want to dual boot between linux and windows 10. Then I tried a clean install of windows 10 following your guide and I was still unable to boot on my PCI-E SSD. I don't see the NVME SSD in the boot manager at all. 
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Hey parsec, 

sorry to hear you weren't feeling well. There was no rush, to get back to me. I was mainly just updating the post as I tried various workarounds without much success. 

I originally formatted my usb boot key as you mentioned however I used the media creation tool to actually add the windows install files. I tried your method first to see if it would work, I mounted the ISO and used > Send To to place the files on the USB. Unfortunately this did not work either, and would just keep booting to the usb install... 

So I then decided to proceed with upgrading the Bios to P2.90Q, so I added it to a clean usb key jumped into the BIOS and used the Instant Flash to upgrade. 2 mins later my PC rebooted twice, next thing I notice... BAM! It's booted into the last Windows attempt I tried to install on the SSD. I ran some software updates for Windows there were quite a few let it reboot a few times in the process, before then installing a couple of my main programs and then switching it off to plug back in a few of my other drives. But it works great. 

Now I am happy with the current speeds I am getting, I didn't expect to get top claimed speeds, but I did notice one thing, the drive seems to only hit about 1400mb/s read where as when I was on my other SSD in windows and testing the 960 EVO it was getting over 2000mb/s, now this might just be because I am now running the software and windows on the 960 EVO, but I thought this was quiet a difference. I was ran both tests with the same 2.1 Samsung NVMe Driver loaded as well. I can't remember the IOPS scores of the top of my head but they were still pretty impressive. 

So to summerise it looks like it you want to install a Samsung 960 EVO NVMe SSD on the Z77 Extreme you need to install the P2.90Q BIOS. I am not exactly sure what's in the update but it worked a treat. Smile


Thanks again for all your help and patience, Parsec. I really appreciate it. You have made an ASROCK man for life... Next time I'm in the States I owe you a Beer

G. 


 



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Sorry, I've been sick lately, still am, never ending...

Quickly, Windows 7 does NOT have an NVMe driver, so it will fail even if everything else is right. I really do not suggest using Windows 7, just making things harder. The Samsung driver you used is not of the correctl format for use during a Windows installation. That driver can only be installed from a running, working Windows installation. Samsung does not provide a so called "F6" type NVMe driver, which are just the driver files, with no installation program. You can find that driver on this page, but given your screen shots, that's not the only problem:

http://www.win-raid.com/t29f25-Recommended-AHCI-RAID-and-NVMe-Drivers.html

You can try that other BIOS version, I've heard of something similar, but that version was not distributed normally for some reason.

One thing I've never seen is the Windows USB installation drive shown as an installation target for Windows!! That is... crazy, I don't have words for it. That should NOT be there. Oh Rufus, I know why I never use you.

Otherwise, the list of partitions for the OS drive you have in your picture is correct. Why it keeps booting the installation drive is crazy, that never happens to me.

How do you tell if you booted the USB installation drive as UEFI:? Select it in the Boot order, and Save and Exit the BIOS! I don't use F11 to select it.

Do you have a Windows 10 ISO file somewhere? If you do, you can try to create the bootable USB flash drive like this, which is how I do it:

Start a command prompt (Admin) and type in diskpart. They type list disk, to find the USB flash drive. Note it has a number next to it. Be CERTAIN you are selecting the USB flash drive, because in the procedure that follows, you are wiping it clean and staring over. Substitute the number for n in the list of commands. Press return after each line.

  • select disk n
  • detail disk (this is to verify that you selected the correct disk before using "clean" below)
  • clean
  • create partition primary
  • format fs=fat32 quick
  • active
  • assign
  • list volume
  • exit
The flash drive has no name at that point, you can change it with its Properties tab.

Go to the ISO file, left click on it and choose Mount. Then all the ISO files will be listed. Then either highlight them and Select All, or left click among the list and left click and Select All. In the highlighted area left click again and choose Send To, which will then list the USB flash drive. Select it and let the files transfer over, it takes a while. You cannot just do a drag and drop of the files, you must do the Mount and Send To procedure. I have five different models of NVMe SSDs, and this is how I always create the bootable USB installation drive.

I hope the other BIOS version works better for you, I've never used it myself. There are other methods of installing NVMe SSDs as the OS drive, such as the one below for older boards:

http://www.win-raid.com/t2375f25-Guide-NVMe-boot-without-modding-your-UEFI-BIOS-Clover-EFI-bootloader-method.html
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which mentions a P2.90Q bios update which logically seems to be a later version than the P2.90M currently installed and seems to have worked for someone else running a Samsung 960 PRO so sounds promising. 

As I seem to have tried just about everything else I don't have much to lose as at the moment my only other alternative is to get a new board and cpu. 

I will try the update tonight when I get home from work and update if it solves my problem. 

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I tried to Install Windows 7 from my DVD and load the "Samsung NVMe drivers v1.4.7.17 WHQL for Win7" 64-bit drivers and even the 32-bit drivers with no luck so Windows would not recognise my SSD. 

I also tried the Samsung data migration tool and cloned my current SSD to the M.2 SSD which cloned fine, but I could not boot off the m.2 SSD, even after trying to /rebuildbcd. 

I hate no knowing why things won't work, but this one may just be a mystery that will never get solved...


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I may also trying Installing of my Windows 7 disc and then upgrade on top of that to get to Windows 10, it thats a viable, albeit long winded and non-clean way to go about it. 

I may also try may a fresh Windows 10 Install on my old SSD and then maybe a clone to the M.2 SSD as I have read some people are doing this as opposed to a clean install directly on the M.2 SSDs. Has anyone had any success with this? 

I guess I will try anything before I HAVE to throw down $6-700 on a new board and CPU. 


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