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I dont have a reply regarding Memory OC, but since my previous post, I have delidded my CPU. Before when I would game or render temps were high. Now I can over clock to 5.1 but during benchmark or burn test (intelburn or Prime95) the screen goes black and then comes back.... Was able to get stable at 5Ghz, with 1.32 on vcore, may need 1.35 + for 5.1 Ghz. This is mainly to show how much a Delid will help, and once I get a 24/7 stable OC I will post my results, and Bios choices.

@4.5 - 4.8 Ghz
Temps before delid:   Gaming = 68 - 78 C  /   Rendering = 78 - 85 C    / Benchmarks = 74 - 89 C

@4.7 - 5.0 Ghz

After delid:    Gaming =  50 - 68 C  /  Rendering =  66 - 71 C  /  Benchmarks = 67 - 72 C
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roccale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 3:46pm
Hhahahahah.
Certo che sul forum di HWUPGRADE se ne leggono di cagate.
Quanti mongoloidi hahahhah....
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Edited by roccale - 13 Apr 2017 at 4:51pm
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Si ma non serve.
Ho riscontrato che salendo di frequenza con le ram la cpu ti richiede logicamente più vcore, + vccsa e +vccio.
Ma se tu fai degli esperimenti con ram a 3200 tirate, che ne so sui primari secondari e terziari (parlo di timings) arrivi alle performance anche di ram a 4000 cas 18....
Il gioco non vale la candela.
Devi lavorare sui timings a 3200 che va gia benissimo...
Potrei passarti delle impostazioni ma poi sta nel vedere se le tue ram possono....
In ogni caso il discorso è equiparato a ogni ram....le prestazioni a 3600 cas 16 1.35v le puoi avere a 3200 cas 14 1.35v e così via....
E' una questione di equilibri.
Se hai ram b-die poi sei supersafe anche a 1.6v (tanti dicono anche a 1.75v in daily)  e puoi sbizzarrirti...


Edited by roccale - 06 Apr 2017 at 9:09pm
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Originally posted by roccale roccale wrote:

LLC 2 è perfetto, non droppa nulla.
Questa mobo è un mostro se non cerchi 1t sulle ram.
Io a 3200 con timings ultra mega tirati sono a cas 12 con 1.43v.
C'è da lavorarci x capirla, è un' altro mondo da asus, gigabyte e MSI...questa è roba seria non da rgb cagati...


ottimo anche io mi trovo bene con LLC2, ora sono con ram a 3200 XMP attivo timings di default e stabile a 1.35v, salendo a 1.4 dovrei riuscire a stare sui 3400
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LLC 2 è perfetto, non droppa nulla.
Questa mobo è un mostro se non cerchi 1t sulle ram.
Io a 3200 con timings ultra mega tirati sono a cas 12 con 1.43v.
C'è da lavorarci x capirla, è un' altro mondo da asus, gigabyte e MSI...questa è roba seria non da rgb cagati...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roccale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 6:16pm
I've already found the limit of my 7700k with liquid, it has to 5500mhz 1.52v.
My fun now is to find the limit of the ram.
I carry forward the tests or just cpu or just ram.
Rarely I make the bench with cpu and ram to the limit and only when I know that everything is stable and I do not make 1000 tests to stress for example vrm for hours.
Let's say one or two well-made bench about 15 minutes in all and I'm done.
In any case I see that the mobo also pulls out 67ampere by vrm but they are always cool to the touch if I try from the back of mothrboard !!!
A friend overclockers, RULE, makes extreme overclocking ram and cpu under nitrogen and not even uses heat sinks on vrm, he has never had a problem .... and the vrm are covered with rags so do not take nitrogen ...
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Originally posted by clubfoot clubfoot wrote:

Originally posted by lantony lantony wrote:

I will recheck the Corsair aio , the CPU pin for the pump is set on pump full speed in bios so it's ok, the fan configuration is the same as before 


Corsair pump speed to performance in Corsair Link! Click on the pump icon and change from Quiet to Performance.


just found the issue: it was the corsair backplate which was not properly mounted, after rotating it and reapplying the grizzly paste, the temps went down of 8-10c° !
I was also now able to enable XMP 3200 so now my CPU has exactly the same configuration as before with the MSI z170, but now the vcore is 1.34-1.36 instead of 1.38-1.39!

I am using the fixed voltage LLC2, looks like there is no way for me to use the offset, so i will keep the config as is for now ;)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Xaltar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 5:48pm
My comment is intended for more amateur users. Comments like "Samsung B-Die are good up to 1.75v" taken out of context could lead to issues in inexperienced hands Wink

I am no stranger to suicide OC runs and record attempts but these more extreme settings must be clearly identified so casual users are not lead astray.

Once you push past 1.4v on RAM (DDR4 of any type) you are pushing the RAM VRM and power systems on the motherboard beyond their rated limits. This can shorten the lifespan of the board. Again, I say this for those not aware of the risks.

For those willing to take the risk, I am sure you are all well aware of these facts from the outset so don't let me stop you pushing the limits of your systems Evil Smile Let us know what you manage. 
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We speak of a type of ram in particular is not a general discussion for all types of DDR4.
We are talking about the samsung b-die.
The opinions are many in this regard, some argue do well in 1.5v others say that even at 1.75V they suffer but only feel ticklish.
My HOF certified 4000 with 1.4v.
Many overclocker use them for hours and hours and hours to over 2.0v they say no desk had never burned.
It would be nice to do an experiment and targeted testing ... or someone who uses the b-to 1.75V for at least 1 year ...
I can only say that if I can use to 1.70-1.75v in daily could achieve remarkable results with these modules ...
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I wouldn't push any DDR4 RAM to 1.75v, the RAM isn't the only factor. Bare in mind DDR4 runs stock at 1.2v with 1.35v for high frequency sticks. Personally I wouldn't go much past 1.4v for daily use. I tend to erre on the side of caution.
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