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    Posted: 08 Aug 2017 at 3:15pm
[URL=][/URL]I want to buy x299 Taichi but it seems to have abnormally low performance compared to other vendors.

Using this review:
http://www.reviewstudio.net/2488-asrock-x299-taichi-review-wheels-in-motion/performance

So why does this board trail other competitors by that much, even when considering margin of errors? The memory performance is probably the worse. Any upcomig BIOS update to fix it?

Edited by realist - 08 Aug 2017 at 3:17pm
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Read more reviews. Basing an opinion on a single review is not prudent.
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A bad review? A few quotes from it:

From Page 5:

The important mention here is that Taichi run at 4.7GHz with only one 8-pin power connector, without throttling the CPU, like Gigabyte Gaming 3 did. That 13-phase VRM is a great solution.

From Page 7:

Taichi has the lowest temperature for 7820X among all boards I?ve tested.

From the Conclusion, Page 8:

ASRock sent me their X299 Taichi motherboard and after several tests I can say that it is a great product. I would start with the excellent look, and those 2 cog wheels that give the impression they are alive and moving.

The performance is good, but Taichi doesn?t raise all the CPU cores to Max Turbo 3.0 frequency, like other boards. Yet, the overclocking is on par with other competitors, even if ASRock board has only one 8-pin connector.

The price is excellent, so it is a great choice for gaming rig on LGA2066 platform.

So the other manufactures seem to be using the Multi-Core Enhancement feature with Turbo 3.0. Note that Turbo 3.0 is NOT the standard Turbo 2.0 feature.

Turbo 3.0 is a feature first used with Intel socket 2011-v3 processors, with X99 boards. Turbo 3.0 selects ONE processor core over the others to be used for the maximum Turbo frequency, which it determines is the best core to be used. The Multi-Core enhancement feature, used with Z170 and Z270 chipset boards (including ASRock), runs all the cores at the maximum Turbo 2.0 frequency, which is a type of built in OC feature. The other manufactures have it enabled by default.

That difference in the core speeds of the other boards is a big difference, and not an equivalent comparison. That would easily account for at least some of the differences in performance, if not all of the difference. At least the review mentioned that factor in the conclusion, but if you only look at the graphs, you miss it. ASRock could easily add the same feature to their X299 boards.

As the old saying goes, the devil is in the details, and this is a perfect example of that. I found this detail simply scanning the review for a few minutes. If we don't read the entire review, we really didn't read it.


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I'd say I'm quite happy with X299 Taichi. I can overclock 7820x with Noctua D15 easily to 4.6Ghz. 4.7Ghz is doable but ran into some stability issues.

What settings are others using for 7820X?

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Originally posted by jarm jarm wrote:

I'd say I'm quite happy with X299 Taichi. I can overclock 7820x with Noctua D15 easily to 4.6Ghz. 4.7Ghz is doable but ran into some stability issues.

What settings are others using for 7820X?


Very nice! It's great you can use a Noctua NH-D15 with that OC, some people would say that would not be possible with an i7-7820X because it would be too hot.

We are curious what VCore you use, and what load temperatures you get with that OC. They both can't be too high if you are happy with it.

How is the memory OC on this board, if you OC your memory?


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