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    Posted: 07 Oct 2017 at 2:50am
Here is the response to the question below:
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I understand that you would like to know what Agesa is and how the different versions compare. If this is incorrect, please let me know as the information provided may change.


Thank you for your email. 


AGESA is an acronym that stands for ?œAMD Generic Encapsulated System Architecture.??As a brief primer, the AGESA is responsible for initializing AMD x86-64 processors during boot time, acting as something of a ?œnucleus??for the BIOS for your motherboard. Motherboard vendors take the core capabilities of our AGESA updates and build on them with their own ?œsecret sauce??to create the BIOS files you download and flash. 


Each updated version may contain small bug fixes, performance improvement and even new bios features and options. 


For Ryzen, the latest version is 1.0.0.6b.

For Threadripper, the latest version is 1.0.0.3.


We recommend checking with your Motherboard manufacturer periodically to keep yourself updated with the latest bios and Agesa version. 

And here is my original query:
Quote I have done some research of X399 mainboards and several AGESA versions in use. One vendor has 0.0.6.0, several have 1.0.0.3a and my vendor (ASRock) has 1.0.0.3. I,of course, do not know what each contain. My X370 board has 1.0.0.6b. Do these version numbers compare directly? What is the latest you have released to board vendors for the 1950X and what does it contain. Some memory vendors are not selling high performance products now because they know they will not work and these AGESA versions. I think a number of problems exist here: -Users have no idea what is contained in a AGESA version. -We have no idea when a needed version will be available (eg,1.0.0.6b equivalent for TR) -We are currently stuck with low performing memory for lack of a up to date AGESA. Please help me understand the AGESA conundrum. Thanks and enjoy, John.
  I have sent a response indicating how disappointed I was.  Enjoy, John.




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"Secret sauce" hahaha John. How'd that make ya feel after reading THAT? Yea. Me too........ Comforting, NOT.

John, which BIOS from what MB is claiming 3a?
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it would have been nice for amd to actually get someone technical to answer that
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Right, datonyb!

wardog, I posted this at the time, did not record the MB model, but remember these are TR and I would guess that a vendor has the same AGESA on all their boards.

Thanks and enjoy, John.

EDIT:Oops, Wardog:

AGESA!V9.ThreadRipperPI-SP3r2-1.0.0.3  ASRock
AGESA!V9.ThreadRipperPI-SP3r2-1.0.0.3A Gigabyte
AGESA!V9.ThreadRipperPI-SP3r2-1.0.0.3A MSI
AGESA!V9.ThreadRipperPI-SP3r2-0.0.6.0  ASUS


Edited by MisterJ - 07 Oct 2017 at 4:36am
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Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

"Secret sauce" hahaha John. How'd that make ya feel after reading THAT? Yea. Me too........ Comforting, NOT.

John, which BIOS from what MB is claiming 3a?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote parsec Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2017 at 9:07pm
Wow, that reply was worse than I expected, without even knowing the questions.

Comparison between and any shared attributes between Ryzen and TR AGESA versions? Remains a mystery. Such a good question, an obvious one. Oh well...

Perhaps TR AGESA 1.0.0.3A is currently a Beta version, that Gigabyte and MSI are using? Apparently AMD has no control over which AGESA code is used. Reading between the lines here. No response and more mysterious since TR AGESA 1.0.0.3 is the latest version.

But they did answer what each AGESA version contains: "Each updated version may contain small bug fixes, performance improvement and even new bios features and options.". Imagine that, who knew?

John, you are asking for information that will take effort and a good understanding of AGESA to explain, you are expecting too much! If you asked where the power button is located, you might get a good answer.
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Thanks, nangu.  Almost all of us here are users not ASRock employees.  ASRock_TSD is the only employee I have seen post here.

Thanks, parsec, I always seem to expect too much.  Weird that the logical is just too much to expect.  Some one(s) in AMD designs, implements and maintains the AGESA.  I bet that person(s) has at least some understanding.  I suspect the response is political (CYA)!

Enjoy, John.
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Pity... your question John was very clear for a "techie" probably they employ students that just... copy something from the script that is given to them...
Maybe rephrasing the question and shorting the message would help... and indicate clearly that you would expect an tech-guy to reply and not just a blunt explanation for everyday user.... 

Pity... was eagerly waiting for the reply from AMD... what a letdown...


Edited by SoniC - 08 Oct 2017 at 2:03am
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Thanks, SoniC.  I have responded and made my displeasure clear and ask my question in a different way.  Enjoy, John.
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No need to thank me, I thank YOU for like... fighting for us (X399 users) rights to have a better mem compatibility ;-)
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