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Topic: Z270 Taichi overclocking
Posted By: Han S. Olo
Subject: Z270 Taichi overclocking
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 5:40am
Hey Everybody! 

I found the internet very little user experiences with this motherboard so I decided to create an account and share some of mine.

I hope others share their also. Smile

Setup:
Taichi
i7-7700K Delidded (Batch L649H775)
2x8GB Tridentz 3600 cl16
Air cooling ATM

System runs stable 5ghz, cache 4.8ghz @ 1.32V. 
DRAM 3733 15-15-15-32 @ 1.38V.
Bios: Beta 1.31
Max. temps @ IBT ~75c

5.1ghz requires a lot more juice, something around 1.4V.
Memory at 3866 cl16 system boot's up with ~1.5V but won't be stable, I tried to increase VCCSA and VCCIO up to 1.3V but no help. 3733 cl14 work's fine. (I know, Taichi only supports memory up to 3733MHz) 


I hope OC Formula comes soon. Wink


Anyways. In this price point i think this is a great motherboard!
Nice looking, BIOS with enough settings and easy to use, SLI, ac wlan, a good audio codec and at least enough other features!





Replies:
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 5:59am
Thanks for sharing!



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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 8:54am
Indeed. Thanks for sharing!


Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 10:40am
Yes, thanks for posting your experience. Thumbs Up

When I saw the thread title, I was worried it was an X99 Taichi owner with a Broadwell HEDT CPU, complaining about the OC potential. If you really want to OC on an X99 system, get a Haswell HEDT CPU. As long as you can that is, Haswell HEDT processors will be EOL soon.

Your OC is great, deliding is a big help of course, once you're at 4.8GHz or beyond. The VCore you can use is great, I never tried pushing mine that low. With no delid and air cooling, 4.9GHz on an i7-7700K is difficult to keep cool during stress testing.

We had a guy here that had an i7-6700K at 5.1GHz, with a 1.52V VCore, no delid I think, custom water cooled, with the Z170 Extreme7+ board.

While I've read about all the contempt in some forums for Kaby Lake processors due to their lack of IPC performance improvement, the stock and Turbo clock speeds are high, and can almost reach 5GHz with a decent board without too much work. If you can reach ~5GHz at ~1.4V VCore, and 4.8GHz at 1.38V on air, delidded, that is great.

About the memory speed, once you get beyond 3600, 16GB will be very difficult to maintain. The memory controller may not be able handle it, and the shielding and placement of the DRAM traces on the board are either not practical, too expensive, or both. You might get close to 4000 with only one 8GB DIMM, or two 4GB DIMMs. Nice tight timings at 3600, in real terms I doubt you'd get any performance benefit going faster.



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Posted By: Han S. Olo
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2017 at 1:01am
Thanks for the replies! :)

I am quite a happy with these oc results. Heroes of Might And Magic III seems to be playable. LOL

Kaby Lake benefits a lot from temperatures. With custom loop i could be 5.1ghz stable but with air i am not. Who knows.

I've seen many Samsung B-die memory owners to get their's 4133+ stable with nice timings and reasonable voltages, especially with Apex (Doh, it is designed for memory overclocking).

This CPU is also tested with Apex, with 1.32Vcore running 5.1ghz and 4.9ghz cache.
But it wasn't fully stability tested so i really can't compare these two.

Taichi is a very good all-rounder.

But i look forward to test this chip with custom loop and Z270 OC Formula. (Hope it comes some day)
Why? Because it is wise and i need more performance? Absolutely not. Because tweaking and money spending is fun? Yes! Yes! Yes! Approve


Posted By: SerpentXSF
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2017 at 10:03pm
" rel="nofollow - I recently stepped into the 7700k life, and love this Z270 Taichi.
I noticed that I am unable to get above 4.8 Ghz stable, so I have some tweaking to do, as I moved from a 2500k to this, I am researching new features. AVX, and others to ensure I get a stable overclock, I have yet to delid my cpu, but have all the tools. I was trying to see if I can overclock without it, before I risk it, but with the tool I have, it makes it so easy the risk factor diminishes. 

(Delids Done on 2 Ivy bridges, and 2 haswells, so I know how, but any pointers to give?)

Question: To get to 5 Ghz on the board, anything I need to know before attempting?

I already hit 4.9 but not stable, 4.8 Ghz is stable with offset applied.

Any insight, "Do's or Donts" would be must appreciated.

I have been overclocking since 2007 but Tech has changes, settings renamed, and systems revamped. 


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SerpentX
Z270 Taich, Intel 7700k
G.Skill TridentZ 3200
960 Evo and 850 Evo
Aorus 1080 Ti



Posted By: Hakka
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 5:59am
I also hit a limit with my 7700K and stuck at 4.8Ghz / 4.5Ghz Cache @ 1.26v though it is stable. I did not touch the AVX offset. I have similar hardware as the first poster, but haven't delid it. Temperatures are already reaching 85c in Prime95 on water cooling, but all of the latest AAA games never gets above 80c. I've tried 4.9-5Ghz up to 1.4v and eventually crashes in Windows 10. Looks like a delid is in order to get anything beyond 4.8Ghz with more comfortable temperatures if I wish to pursue anything higher.

I've also found something that may be interesting to everyone. In a video comparison with a similar board Asrock Z270 Extreme 4 and MSI Gaming M7 Z270. The default i7 7700K CPU voltages were higher with Asrock than MSI and takes more voltages to get to the same overclocked speeds. CPU lottery is one thing, but it would seem there may be limitations with certain motherboards in different price ranges to take into account as well.

Starts at 2:30
https://youtu.be/q2H73cLbyzI" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/q2H73cLbyzI

Having said that, I'm still happy with my purchase and overclock results. This Z270 Taichi is still a great value for the features it comes with.




Posted By: lantony
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2017 at 5:56pm
" rel="nofollow - Hi there, i also just got this motherboard and so far the impressions are contrasting.
I come from an MSI Z170 Gaming PRO, where i was able to OC my CPU stable to 5ghz, 5ghz cache, ram XMP 3200 (vcore 1.38 in full which was set to 1.36 +0.0005v offset). Now with ASROCK i have tons of additional oc options in the bios but so far i am stable at 1.39v fixed vcore, 5050Mhz cpu 3,8Ghz cache, LLC lvl2,  but looks like i cannot activate the XMP on the ram or i am unstable. Moreover i have an increase of temperatures of about 8c° over my previous motherboard!I have disabled the same stuff that i did in the MSI:  HPET, spread spectrum, intel Virtualization, intel c states, intel turbo boost....

Anybody knows what can it be? I see there's a beta bios (1.31) which says: Improve Temperature under BIOS setup, and another bios (1.34) which shows "Improve some DRAM margin" it is safe to flash beta bios and would one of these bios help?

Also anybody that can share screenshot of the BIOS so that i might be able to get some additional tricks?


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Asrock Z270 Taichi v1.30
i5 7600k @ 5ghz
16gb Corsair Vengeance LED 3200
Corsair H80i
Zotac 1070 GTX AMP


Posted By: clubfoot
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2017 at 11:26pm
Take into consideration that you have moved from a Z170 to a Z270 chip set and different board manufacturer and may not be able to copy and paste UEFI settings.

It is not necessary to run XMP to have a stable o/c or extract max measurable performance. The easiest way to load an XMP profile (if it's compatible with your new board) is with UEFI defaults,...then over clock. Just keep in mind that it may limit your o/c or not work at all :(

The mods will help you with the correct ram slots and UEFI settings.


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Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 5:52pm
" rel="nofollow - I have tried many configuration to use my ram:
GALAX HOF 4000 B-DIE
PATRIOT VIPER 4 3733 B-DIE
with command rate 1t but apparently seems impossible.
Even at low frequency ram as 3200 ....
The taichi at this point do 4 fake boot and reset default ...
Someone have a screen with asrock timing configurator settings at 1t that really works?
Someone good screen with asrock timing configurator and good settings for b-die ram?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
HAVE A NICE DAY TO ALL.


Posted By: lantony
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 6:13pm
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by clubfoot clubfoot wrote:

Take into consideration that you have moved from a Z170 to a Z270 chip set and different board manufacturer and may not be able to copy and paste UEFI settings.

It is not necessary to run XMP to have a stable o/c or extract max measurable performance. The easiest way to load an XMP profile (if it's compatible with your new board) is with UEFI defaults,...then over clock. Just keep in mind that it may limit your o/c or not work at all :(

The mods will help you with the correct ram slots and UEFI settings.


true but if i am going from an "old" 120??mobo into a new over 200??mobo i would expect better results better overclocking and performances right? now i am at lower speed and higher temps..... I will do some additional attempts and try to understad the reason of these higher temps


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Asrock Z270 Taichi v1.30
i5 7600k @ 5ghz
16gb Corsair Vengeance LED 3200
Corsair H80i
Zotac 1070 GTX AMP


Posted By: clubfoot
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 9:53pm
" rel="nofollow - >>i would expect better results better overclocking and performances right?
No,...definitely not. There are too many variables. Improved performance,...OK. New features,...yes. But same or lower temps and higher overclockability,...no! If you do then run with it, as there are no guarantees :)

Have you reseated your cooler pump? Are you running the same fan profiles? Is the pump on high? Is the rad clean? Is the ambient temp higher? Were you using the same video card? Use HWiNFO for temps,...the latest version detects Corsair coolers too.


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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 10:27pm
Clubfoot just about covered it. 

There are so many variables at play here, new PCH, new IO, new VRM section, different layout etc. It isn't a simple case of "newer is better", newer is simply newer and better featured. Overclocking is dependent on a wide variety of factors and is not guaranteed by any manufacturer. Some parts will work well together, others not so much.




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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 10:33pm
Originally posted by roccale roccale wrote:

http://forum.asrock.com/RTE_textarea.asp%3cmode=quote&ID=26650&CACHE=1788" rel="nofollow - I have tried many configuration to use my ram:
GALAX HOF 4000 B-DIE
PATRIOT VIPER 4 3733 B-DIE
with command rate 1t but apparently seems impossible.
Even at low frequency ram as 3200 ....
The taichi at this point do 4 fake boot and reset default ...
Someone have a screen with asrock timing configurator settings at 1t that really works?
Someone good screen with asrock timing configurator and good settings for b-die ram?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
HAVE A NICE DAY TO ALL.

From your post you are referring to the X370 Taichi not the Z270 Taichi. I don't imagine you would be bothered with 1T command rates or Samsung B-Die RAM on the Z270. 


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Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 10:41pm
" rel="nofollow - No I speak just Z270.
I would like to make it go to 1t with good timigs.
Why is this not possible?
asus apex WORK FINE WITH 1T but why i have to buy an APEX?
ASROCK IS NOT ABLE TO DO A GOOD BIOS FOR B-DIE and z270???
Or u can help me with a good settings for a performance ram daily for my b-die?
I think b-die can work at 1.5v in daily or not?
Thx in advance.
M


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i7 7700k@5400mhz 1.476v
ASROCK Z270 TAICHI
GALAX HOF DDR4 4000
Zotac 1080ti Amp! Extreme@2150mhz.
EK PREDATOR 240 + WB EK EVO FN
CARBIDE AIR 540


Posted By: clubfoot
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 12:01am
" rel="nofollow -
>>PATRIOT VIPER 4 3733 B-DIE
>>with command rate 1t but apparently seems impossible.
>>Even at low frequency ram as 3200 ....
>>The taichi at this point do 4 fake boot and reset default ...

I'm going to regret this but:

After the 4 fake boots does it stop at the ASRock screen and show menu selections for entering the UEFI or continuing?
If yes,...go into the UEFI. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING! F10, save and reboot. Did it keep the 1T? If yes,...be happy :)

If no,....ram to AUTO, reboot, change to 1T, does it keep the 1T? If yes,...increase ram speed one increment at a time (DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE), reboot.

Results?



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Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 12:08am
Entering uefi to continue.

If i enter in uefi all is at default settings.

I try ram to auto and only change 1t.
Tomorrow i can say u something.
Thx.
M.



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i7 7700k@5400mhz 1.476v
ASROCK Z270 TAICHI
GALAX HOF DDR4 4000
Zotac 1080ti Amp! Extreme@2150mhz.
EK PREDATOR 240 + WB EK EVO FN
CARBIDE AIR 540


Posted By: clubfoot
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 12:13am
Originally posted by roccale roccale wrote:

Entering uefi to continue.

If i enter in uefi all is at default settings.

I try ram to auto and only change 1t.
Tomorrow i can say u something.
Thx.
M.


If you previously set 1T, it then fake booted 4 times, you entered UEFI, it will show default or what it "thinks" will work, just press F10, save and exit and see if 1T takes@3200 :(


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Posted By: Fraggers
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 12:25am
Originally posted by roccale roccale wrote:

I think b-die can work at 1.5v in daily or not?


very safe with samsungSmile


Posted By: lantony
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 12:39am
Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

Clubfoot just about covered it. 

There are so many variables at play here, new PCH, new IO, new VRM section, different layout etc. It isn't a simple case of "newer is better", newer is simply newer and better featured. Overclocking is dependent on a wide variety of factors and is not guaranteed by any manufacturer. Some parts will work well together, others not so much.



Sorry maybe There is a misunderstanding....I didn't mean newer is better I just meant that I am going from a z170 not totally optimized for kabylake into a z270 created for those processors,plus I am going from an 8 phases Mobo to a 12 phases Mobo that costs double so I expected to have more oveclocking features (which ASRock has) and more stability / better vcore management . I will recheck the Corsair aio , the CPU pin for the pump is set on pump full speed in bios so it's ok, the fan configuration is the same as before 


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Asrock Z270 Taichi v1.30
i5 7600k @ 5ghz
16gb Corsair Vengeance LED 3200
Corsair H80i
Zotac 1070 GTX AMP


Posted By: clubfoot
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 6:22am
Originally posted by lantony lantony wrote:

I will recheck the Corsair aio , the CPU pin for the pump is set on pump full speed in bios so it's ok, the fan configuration is the same as before 


Corsair pump speed to performance in Corsair Link! Click on the pump icon and change from Quiet to Performance.


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Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 3:35pm
" rel="nofollow - Thx ;)
Someone say that with samsung b-die is ultra safe until 1.75v.
Is this possible?
If yes really impressive...


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i7 7700k@5400mhz 1.476v
ASROCK Z270 TAICHI
GALAX HOF DDR4 4000
Zotac 1080ti Amp! Extreme@2150mhz.
EK PREDATOR 240 + WB EK EVO FN
CARBIDE AIR 540


Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 4:00pm
Previously set 1T, it then fake booted 4 times, ienter in UEFI, it show default or what it "thinks" will work, i  press F10, save and exit and another time 4 fake boot and the same story.
I was able to boot and enter in os and do everithing with ram all on auto cas 15 1t until 2600 mhz...not more....


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i7 7700k@5400mhz 1.476v
ASROCK Z270 TAICHI
GALAX HOF DDR4 4000
Zotac 1080ti Amp! Extreme@2150mhz.
EK PREDATOR 240 + WB EK EVO FN
CARBIDE AIR 540


Posted By: Fraggers
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by roccale roccale wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Thx ;)
Someone say that with samsung b-die is ultra safe until 1.75v.
Is this possible?
If yes really impressive...


Yes, it's true


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 4:34pm
I wouldn't push any DDR4 RAM to 1.75v, the RAM isn't the only factor. Bare in mind DDR4 runs stock at 1.2v with 1.35v for high frequency sticks. Personally I wouldn't go much past 1.4v for daily use. I tend to erre on the side of caution.

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Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 4:52pm
We speak of a type of ram in particular is not a general discussion for all types of DDR4.
We are talking about the samsung b-die.
The opinions are many in this regard, some argue do well in 1.5v others say that even at 1.75V they suffer but only feel ticklish.
My HOF certified 4000 with 1.4v.
Many overclocker use them for hours and hours and hours to over 2.0v they say no desk had never burned.
It would be nice to do an experiment and targeted testing ... or someone who uses the b-to 1.75V for at least 1 year ...
I can only say that if I can use to 1.70-1.75v in daily could achieve remarkable results with these modules ...


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i7 7700k@5400mhz 1.476v
ASROCK Z270 TAICHI
GALAX HOF DDR4 4000
Zotac 1080ti Amp! Extreme@2150mhz.
EK PREDATOR 240 + WB EK EVO FN
CARBIDE AIR 540


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 5:48pm
My comment is intended for more amateur users. Comments like "Samsung B-Die are good up to 1.75v" taken out of context could lead to issues in inexperienced hands Wink

I am no stranger to suicide OC runs and record attempts but these more extreme settings must be clearly identified so casual users are not lead astray.

Once you push past 1.4v on RAM (DDR4 of any type) you are pushing the RAM VRM and power systems on the motherboard beyond their rated limits. This can shorten the lifespan of the board. Again, I say this for those not aware of the risks.

For those willing to take the risk, I am sure you are all well aware of these facts from the outset so don't let me stop you pushing the limits of your systems Evil Smile Let us know what you manage. 


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Posted By: lantony
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 6:12pm
Originally posted by clubfoot clubfoot wrote:

Originally posted by lantony lantony wrote:

I will recheck the Corsair aio , the CPU pin for the pump is set on pump full speed in bios so it's ok, the fan configuration is the same as before 


Corsair pump speed to performance in Corsair Link! Click on the pump icon and change from Quiet to Performance.


just found the issue: it was the corsair backplate which was not properly mounted, after rotating it and reapplying the grizzly paste, the temps went down of 8-10c° !
I was also now able to enable XMP 3200 so now my CPU has exactly the same configuration as before with the MSI z170, but now the vcore is 1.34-1.36 instead of 1.38-1.39!

I am using the fixed voltage LLC2, looks like there is no way for me to use the offset, so i will keep the config as is for now ;)


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Asrock Z270 Taichi v1.30
i5 7600k @ 5ghz
16gb Corsair Vengeance LED 3200
Corsair H80i
Zotac 1070 GTX AMP


Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 6:16pm
I've already found the limit of my 7700k with liquid, it has to 5500mhz 1.52v.
My fun now is to find the limit of the ram.
I carry forward the tests or just cpu or just ram.
Rarely I make the bench with cpu and ram to the limit and only when I know that everything is stable and I do not make 1000 tests to stress for example vrm for hours.
Let's say one or two well-made bench about 15 minutes in all and I'm done.
In any case I see that the mobo also pulls out 67ampere by vrm but they are always cool to the touch if I try from the back of mothrboard !!!
A friend overclockers, RULE, makes extreme overclocking ram and cpu under nitrogen and not even uses heat sinks on vrm, he has never had a problem .... and the vrm are covered with rags so do not take nitrogen ...


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i7 7700k@5400mhz 1.476v
ASROCK Z270 TAICHI
GALAX HOF DDR4 4000
Zotac 1080ti Amp! Extreme@2150mhz.
EK PREDATOR 240 + WB EK EVO FN
CARBIDE AIR 540


Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 6:20pm
LLC 2 è perfetto, non droppa nulla.
Questa mobo è un mostro se non cerchi 1t sulle ram.
Io a 3200 con timings ultra mega tirati sono a cas 12 con 1.43v.
C'è da lavorarci x capirla, è un' altro mondo da asus, gigabyte e MSI...questa è roba seria non da rgb cagati...


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i7 7700k@5400mhz 1.476v
ASROCK Z270 TAICHI
GALAX HOF DDR4 4000
Zotac 1080ti Amp! Extreme@2150mhz.
EK PREDATOR 240 + WB EK EVO FN
CARBIDE AIR 540


Posted By: lantony
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 7:43pm
Originally posted by roccale roccale wrote:

LLC 2 è perfetto, non droppa nulla.
Questa mobo è un mostro se non cerchi 1t sulle ram.
Io a 3200 con timings ultra mega tirati sono a cas 12 con 1.43v.
C'è da lavorarci x capirla, è un' altro mondo da asus, gigabyte e MSI...questa è roba seria non da rgb cagati...


ottimo anche io mi trovo bene con LLC2, ora sono con ram a 3200 XMP attivo timings di default e stabile a 1.35v, salendo a 1.4 dovrei riuscire a stare sui 3400


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i5 7600k @ 5ghz
16gb Corsair Vengeance LED 3200
Corsair H80i
Zotac 1070 GTX AMP


Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 8:35pm
Si ma non serve.
Ho riscontrato che salendo di frequenza con le ram la cpu ti richiede logicamente più vcore, + vccsa e +vccio.
Ma se tu fai degli esperimenti con ram a 3200 tirate, che ne so sui primari secondari e terziari (parlo di timings) arrivi alle performance anche di ram a 4000 cas 18....
Il gioco non vale la candela.
Devi lavorare sui timings a 3200 che va gia benissimo...
Potrei passarti delle impostazioni ma poi sta nel vedere se le tue ram possono....
In ogni caso il discorso è equiparato a ogni ram....le prestazioni a 3600 cas 16 1.35v le puoi avere a 3200 cas 14 1.35v e così via....
E' una questione di equilibri.
Se hai ram b-die poi sei supersafe anche a 1.6v (tanti dicono anche a 1.75v in daily)  e puoi sbizzarrirti...


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i7 7700k@5400mhz 1.476v
ASROCK Z270 TAICHI
GALAX HOF DDR4 4000
Zotac 1080ti Amp! Extreme@2150mhz.
EK PREDATOR 240 + WB EK EVO FN
CARBIDE AIR 540


Posted By: roccale
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 3:46pm
Hhahahahah.
Certo che sul forum di HWUPGRADE se ne leggono di cagate.
Quanti mongoloidi hahahhah....
Freeman fottiti ASINO    morirai solo!!!     :)


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i7 7700k@5400mhz 1.476v
ASROCK Z270 TAICHI
GALAX HOF DDR4 4000
Zotac 1080ti Amp! Extreme@2150mhz.
EK PREDATOR 240 + WB EK EVO FN
CARBIDE AIR 540


Posted By: SerpentXSF
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 3:34am
I dont have a reply regarding Memory OC, but since my previous post, I have delidded my CPU. Before when I would game or render temps were high. Now I can over clock to 5.1 but during benchmark or burn test (intelburn or Prime95) the screen goes black and then comes back.... Was able to get stable at 5Ghz, with 1.32 on vcore, may need 1.35 + for 5.1 Ghz. This is mainly to show how much a Delid will help, and once I get a 24/7 stable OC I will post my results, and Bios choices.

@4.5 - 4.8 Ghz
Temps before delid:   Gaming = 68 - 78 C  /   Rendering = 78 - 85 C    / Benchmarks = 74 - 89 C

@4.7 - 5.0 Ghz

After delid:    Gaming =  50 - 68 C  /  Rendering =  66 - 71 C  /  Benchmarks = 67 - 72 C


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SerpentX
Z270 Taich, Intel 7700k
G.Skill TridentZ 3200
960 Evo and 850 Evo
Aorus 1080 Ti



Posted By: Johnny Rocco
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 2:57pm
Originally posted by SerpentXSF SerpentXSF wrote:

I dont have a reply regarding Memory OC, but since my previous post, I have delidded my CPU. Before when I would game or render temps were high. Now I can over clock to 5.1 but during benchmark or burn test (intelburn or Prime95) the screen goes black and then comes back....


" rel="nofollow - That's great info.  Say, do you know what the part number of your G.Skill is?   I've been thinking of using 3200 in my next build. 


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Posted By: GothGoli
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 8:19pm
" rel="nofollow - Hey guys.

I am new to overclocking. I purchased Z270 Taichi not long ago, and have been staying at 4.8ghz with 1.33V for a while. One thing that I am still confused is the CPU Input Voltage (VRIN) option. I can't find it anywhere. Is it not available in the BIOS?


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 8:29pm
Originally posted by GothGoli GothGoli wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Hey guys.

I am new to overclocking. I purchased Z270 Taichi not long ago, and have been staying at 4.8ghz with 1.33V for a while. One thing that I am still confused is the CPU Input Voltage (VRIN) option. I can't find it anywhere. Is it not available in the BIOS?


VRIN is Load-Line Calibration(LLC)


Posted By: GothGoli
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by GothGoli GothGoli wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Hey guys.

I am new to overclocking. I purchased Z270 Taichi not long ago, and have been staying at 4.8ghz with 1.33V for a while. One thing that I am still confused is the CPU Input Voltage (VRIN) option. I can't find it anywhere. Is it not available in the BIOS?


VRIN is Load-Line Calibration(LLC)

Thank you for the information. Could you please tell me the VRING in Asrock's BIOS as well? I'm quite new to the whole OC thing and what I've got so far is the most three things to concern when overclocking CPU is Vcore, VRIN, and VRING.


Posted By: SerpentXSF
Date Posted: 03 May 2017 at 10:23pm
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I can edit my post, Yay.... Fever sucks


Anyone able to talk about Bios settings used to get stable 5 Ghz?

Not the preset options, but manual config and whats your settings?

We all know AVX should be set to 2 or 3, and Vcore is fixed to 1.32 + depending, as well ass LLC level 2.

But the rest I am a bit off on, maybe its the fever..

Anywho please let me know your settings.


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Z270 Taich, Intel 7700k
G.Skill TridentZ 3200
960 Evo and 850 Evo
Aorus 1080 Ti



Posted By: SerpentXSF
Date Posted: 03 May 2017 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by Johnny Rocco Johnny Rocco wrote:

Originally posted by SerpentXSF SerpentXSF wrote:

I dont have a reply regarding Memory OC, but since my previous post, I have delidded my CPU. Before when I would game or render temps were high. Now I can over clock to 5.1 but during benchmark or burn test (intelburn or Prime95) the screen goes black and then comes back....


" rel="nofollow - That's great info.  Say, do you know what the part number of your G.Skill is?   I've been thinking of using 3200 in my next build. 

Ignore my last reply, I am running a slight fever...

G.skill TridentZ RCG 16GB   F4-3200C16D-16GTZR

Is that what you were looking for? 


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Z270 Taich, Intel 7700k
G.Skill TridentZ 3200
960 Evo and 850 Evo
Aorus 1080 Ti



Posted By: GothGoli
Date Posted: 03 May 2017 at 11:04pm
Originally posted by SerpentXSF SerpentXSF wrote:

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Anyone able to talk about Bios settings used to get stable 5 Ghz?

Not the preset options, but manual config and whats your settings?

We all know AVX should be set to 2 or 3, and Vcore is fixed to 1.32 + depending, as well ass LLC level 2.

But the rest I am a bit off on, maybe its the fever..


Is -10 AVX too much? 


Posted By: Johnny Rocco
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 2:37pm
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Originally posted by SerpentXSF SerpentXSF wrote:

Ignore my last reply, I am running a slight fever...

G.skill TridentZ RCG 16GB   F4-3200C16D-16GTZR

Is that what you were looking for? 


Perfect!  And it's pretty. 
Hope you are feeling better.  Overclock the CPU, keep yourself cool. 


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Posted By: Johnny Rocco
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by SerpentXSF SerpentXSF wrote:

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Anyone able to talk about Bios settings used to get stable 5 Ghz?

Not the preset options, but manual config and whats your settings?


I second the motion.  Not a lot of settings info on Z270 boards.  The Taichi, SuperCarrier, and Gaming I7 are said to have circuitry similar to the Z170 Formula OC relevant to overclocking (Tweaktown reviews). 

I have seen reviewers using LLC 1 (most extreme) and dialing up the power and current limits, but not a complete settings "dump".


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Posted By: SerpentXSF
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 12:04am
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I would say AVX set to 10 is too HIGH, go with either  1 through 3.


Also my current settings, when manually config in Bios.

  1. All core set to 5 Ghz
  2. CPU Cache Ratio 4.2 - 4.5
  3. BCLK 100.0000
  4. Vcore fixed, 1.39 (1.425 for 5.1 Ghz)  < maybe 1.456 for some people
  5. LLC 3
  6. Leave everything on Auto, but turn of IGPU, Spread Spectrum, Intel Speed Shift


Settings when in OS, using AI suite from Asrock..
In bios leave everything Auto, and turn off the usual IGPU, Spread Spectrum, Intel Speed Shift
  1. Boot into OS, and open Asrock AI tuner thing, what ever it is called now...
  2. For 5 Ghz, I have a + offset of:  .125 - .150, but this will throw errors in Prime \ However everything else works fine, games and benchmarks, so adjust according to your setup
  3. For 5.1 Ghz, +offset of: .165 - .185, but again I get errors in Prime, and this can hit 1.456 in Vcore
  4. For 5.2 Ghz, +offset of: .190 - .200 (THIS IS DANGEROUS) do it ALL OF THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE, read below for testing help

You don't want to hit above 1.500 Vcore, as you can fry or reduce your CPU lifespan. unless you are using LN2 or Helium to cool your CPU

I personally prefer BIOS tuning, than OS tuning, but depending on your setup, be careful

I would open up prime 95, or LinX, or Intel Burn Test
Set the +offset low and test, while keeping an eye on HWinfo, or Cpuz, monitoring Vcore during test

If you get errors up the voltage, by .005 until the errors seem to go away, bare in mind, since you
left the bios voltage on Auto, that the motherboard may throw to much Vcore, so look at the 
Max Vcore, Min Vcore, and Average Vcore. To determine what you were running at, I use HWinfo, and compare with CPUz, and Corsair Link (Corsair Link said one time I hit 2.000 on Vcore, which would mean my CPU just got fried so don't trust it.

Good Luck,

SerpentXSF

CPUZ validation:

http://valid.x86.fr/3g0kin


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Z270 Taich, Intel 7700k
G.Skill TridentZ 3200
960 Evo and 850 Evo
Aorus 1080 Ti




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