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ASRock x370 Gaming X Memory Compatibility is fake?

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Topic: ASRock x370 Gaming X Memory Compatibility is fake?
Posted By: Valter84
Subject: ASRock x370 Gaming X Memory Compatibility is fake?
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 4:44am
" rel="nofollow - Hello,

First of all, my system is:
Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (OC to 3700mhz vcore 1.25)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios v3.20)
2x8Gb hyperx predator hx432c16pb3k2/16 (slot A2 and B2)
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte Aorus 1080Ti Xtreme Edition
Seasonic Focus+ 850w Platinum
Corsair 200R

I have bought this specific motherboard because it had my memory on the compatibility list to 3200mhz.

I am writing this because I am having problens setting xmp profile 1 (3200mhz) at bios.

If I enter bios and set xmp profile 1, save and exit, sometimes it boots, other fails and enters bios in safe mode setting ram to 2400mhz. When it boots @ 3200mhz the system is not stable and I get some blue screens playing games.

So far I have to use xmp profile 2 (2933mhz).

What am I doing wrong?

Thank you.




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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R



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Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 5:55am
Valter84, I do not think it is fake but you may need to tweak a few things.  There are memory experts here that hopefully will help you soon - I'm no OCer.  Please post the version of your BIOS, boot into BIOS and hit F9 (Load UEFI Defaults), F10 (Save and Exit) and try your XMP then.  The experts will confirm this but I think many have run their memories faster than 3200 MHz but I do not know about this memory.  I suggest you place your specifications in your signature so they will automatically appear on all your pages.  Enjoy, John.


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Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 10:42am
Originally posted by Valter84 Valter84 wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Hello,

First of all, my system is:
Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (OC to 3700mhz vcore 1.25)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X
2x8Gb hyperx predator hx432c16pb3k2/16 (slot A2 and B2)
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte Aorus 1080Ti Xtreme Edition
Seasonic Focus+ 850w Platinum

I have bought this specific motherboard because it had my memory on the compatibility list to 3200mhz.

I am writing this because I am having problens setting xmp profile 1 (3200mhz) at bios.

If I enter bios and set xmp profile 1, save and exit, sometimes it boots, other fails and enters bios in safe mode setting ram to 2400mhz. When it boots @ 3200mhz the system is not stable and I get some blue screens playing games.

So far I have to use xmp profile 2 (2933mhz).

What am I doing wrong?

Thank you.




You've missed some information in the Memory QVL.

First, any memory speed for Ryzen processors above 2667 is a memory over clock, and not guaranteed. Memory over clocking potential in general depends upon the capability of the memory controller in your CPU, and the model of memory you are using. From your board's Memory QVL document:

Note3: The O.C. mode is not guaranteed. It depends on whole system configuration and other parameters.
Note4: When running XMP at DDR4 2667MHz or higher, the system?™s stability depends on the CPU?™s capabilities.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20X/index.asp#Memory" rel="nofollow - http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20X/index.asp#Memory

You have been able to over clock your memory above the maximum specified speed for a Ryzen 7 processor, from 2667 to 2933. Memory rated at an over clocked speed of 3200 may be limited to 2933 in a Ryzen system to be stable, that is common.

You might be able to achieve 3200, but will need some manual adjustments of the memory settings in the UEFI/BIOS. The XMP profile of your memory was designed for Intel X99 and  100 series chipset boards, as is the majority of DDR4 memory available.

Also, as said above, the UEFI/BIOS version in your board can help you reach a higher memory over clock. AMD has provided mother board manufactures with several new CPU microcode updates that have improved the memory over clocking potential of some models of memory. Those microcode updates are included in various UEFI/BIOS updates. The latest version for your board is 3.20. What version are you using?

One main adjustment in the UEFI/BIOS that is not done automatically by the XMP profile to help with memory over clocking is increasing the VDDCR_SOC voltage. That option is in the OC Tweaker screen. The default SOC voltage is 0.900V. Increase it to 1.100V to start, and if that does not work you may increase it safely up to 1.200V. Check that the DRAM voltage is set to 1.35V.

Also, there are many other memory settings in the DRAM Timing Configuration screen besides the basic memory timings and speed. Try setting all of the memory options besides the four or five basic memory timings to a value of Auto.

So, set the VDDCR_SOC voltage to 1.1V, set all the other memory options to Auto, and try the memory at 3200. This still may not be stable, all you can do is try. We also do not know what UEFI version you are using.

I see that you are using the second XMP profile your memory has, for a speed of 3000, which was not supported in earlier UEFI versions with older AGESA microcode. Are you able to select a memory speed of 3000 with the UEFI version you are currently using? Be sure not to use this XMP profile and just change the speed to 3200, load the 3200 speed profile before doing the other changes.

When the PC fails to POST with your current UEFI settings at 3200, the memory is set to its default speed of 2400, that is normal.

For others reading this thread, this HyperX memory model has Hynix M-die memory chips.



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Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 4:42pm
Thank you for your replies.
I am using the latest bios version for this motherboard.
I already did clear cmos and load default parameters several times.

Dram volatege is set to 1.35, despite on windows, if I check with software it says it is 1.25. Other people on the forum already talked about this. I hope it will be fixed on the next bios version.

I will try adjusting VDDR_SOC and also the other parameters to AUTO to see if anything change and I can cold boot.

Will update the thread later.

Thank you for your help.




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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 5:30pm
I am not able to cold boot with memory set to 3200mhz, despite increasing VDDCR_SOC to 1.2v and dram voltage to 1.40.
But setting manual speeds instead of XMP profile I was able to get 3066MHZ running with auto VDDCR_SOC, DRAM voltage @ 1.35 and timings 16-18-18-18-36. That Should be a boost.
I hope I will found a way to get the 3200mhz...

I bought this motherboard specific thinking I was able to get the 3200mhz... before I had Asus Prime X370 Pro... It looks I didn`need to change motherboard.


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 7:43pm
" rel="nofollow - what is your other subtimings ?
specifically the 'trc'

eg 16/18/18/18/36/?   (trc at 75 might help if its being set lower)

and also what is the command rate set to ? 1T or 2T
also note a small bump to the dram volts may be required to get the hynix chips on the ram sticks stable eg 1.375 or 1.395

also it seems to be coming less of a strange occurance now that a lower set cpu vcore is NOT helping with the cold boot issues
whether this is directly or indirectly affecting the ram stability im not sure
but its worth testing
in other words try the cpu vcore at 1.3-1.325 and test the system


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Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 12:01am
To my findings its nothing more than a marketing gimmick, as memory manufacturers and motherboard manufacturers cant tell you for certain that the memory on their own qvl lists will work or not.. and the 3200mhz flare-x memory doesn't necessarily work on two different motherboards..

 As I have a Msi b350 and had an msi x370 board, and currently runnign an asrock fatality professional gaming that 3000mhz (cl15) z170 specific memory worked fine on and ran faster than the 3200 flare-x memory and the 3000mhz z170 specific memory isnt even on their qvl list.. Now the 3200mhz flare-x memory also ran fine on both msi boards, but I had to increase soc voltage to 1.15 and dram voltage to 1.36 to get it to run on the x370 fatality professional gaming motherboard.... I'm still testing to see if its reliable or not, I had a boot issue with it a couple days ago, but I was trying to decrease the soc voltage when I got the boot issue..

 I'm likely going to build a coffelake rig and abandon ryzen altogether, not all that impressed with it actually.. If motherboard manufacturers and memory manufacturers wouldnt lie to you, it would be a better market, but as it stands, me along with many others paid a premium price for memory that wont run at its default specified values and specific motherboard manufacturers are being extremely lazy with bios updates for their ryzen  flagship boards..

 What I find funny is Asrock wants to list the Flare-x on their qvl list, and Gskill swears it is qualified.. But you go on either forum and its a completely different story.. Which to me is completely false advertising..
 Qualified but it is not reliably qualified in the least bit, I think they just throw a kit in a board and mess with timings until they can get it to run somewhat and call it qualified..


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Asrock Fatality x370 Professional Gaming with lousy memory support, Ryzen1700, 16gb Gskill ripjawsV 3200mhz 16-16-16-36, Samsung 950evo m.2,


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 12:27am
@valter86 is your VDDCR SOC voltage in bios look like this? On the left side i have no numbers only in the right side which we choose auto, +60mv, +120mv and so on?


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Asrock X370 Gaming X 4.90 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 2:16am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by chubalz chubalz wrote:

@valter86 is your VDDCR SOC voltage in bios look like this? On the left side i have no numbers only in the right side which we choose auto, +60mv, +120mv and so on?
Yes. On my tests to 3200mhz I have used +300mv and ram voltage 1.4v but didn`t boot.


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 2:29am
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

" rel="nofollow - what is your other subtimings ?
specifically the 'trc'

eg 16/18/18/18/36/?   (trc at 75 might help if its being set lower)

and also what is the command rate set to ? 1T or 2T
also note a small bump to the dram volts may be required to get the hynix chips on the ram sticks stable eg 1.375 or 1.395

also it seems to be coming less of a strange occurance now that a lower set cpu vcore is NOT helping with the cold boot issues
whether this is directly or indirectly affecting the ram stability im not sure
but its worth testing
in other words try the cpu vcore at 1.3-1.325 and test the system

Regarding your question, I have set all the same parameters available @ xmp profile for the 3200mhz, but instead running @ 3066mhz.

According to cpuz:
- DRAM Frequency 1530mhz
- FSB:DRAM 3:46
- 16/18/18/36/74/1T

The system was not stable using those settings with 1.35 ram voltage.
I had to increase it to 1.37 and now it`s stable and working nice with all benchmarks software (cinebench R15 CPU 1624 points) and with prime95 and occt.

On OCCT stress test my cpu temperature goes until 65ÂșC then they go down to 62ÂșC and they stay like that running after 30 minutes. I believe it`s a good temperature for this CPU.

Do you think new Agesa BIOS will bring support to 3200mhz?



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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 2:38am
eventually i think the new agesa at some stage will yes

im trying to help you and others now though

you may find whats holding your ram back is the 1t setting

to use 2t you also need to disable 'geardown mode' first

please note if not done so yet
save the settings you have in a bios profile. so you can quickly reset back


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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 8:25am
One item I haven't seen mention of is your 1.25 Processor Voltage.

1.25v @ 3700 is IMO a tad on the low side for 3700. Obviously, 1.25v holds its own with a lower frequency. Ramped that freq up and now you're here asking questions.



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Posted By: Lobsang15
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 12:01pm
Hi all

Ive been using x370 gaming x + ryzen 5 1600 stock clock + patriot viper pv416g340c6k (2x8gb). Bios 3.20 newest

Xmp profile enable, running on 3200mhz 16-17-17-17-36. 1,35voltage, and everything else on auto. Sticked in dram slot a2 - b2

That setting is the most stable for playing games hours without crashing nor bluescreen, cool boot no issue, havent tried processor oc so far. Guest try it later on


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

One item I haven't seen mention of is your 1.25 Processor Voltage.

1.25v @ 3700 is IMO a tad on the low side for 3700. Obviously, 1.25v holds its own with a lower frequency. Ramped that freq up and now you're here asking questions.

Hello there,

Yes, my system was not 100% stable running stress tests probably because I was using low cpu voltage for the 1700. For example, Cinebench sometimes did not ended. I have increased the voltage to 1.26 and now cinebench always runs.
But despite that increase, OCCT:LINPACK it`s not stable, sometimes the computer dies after 5 or 10 minutes. OCCT:CPU runs ok for many time.
Don`t know what is causing the issue runnning the linpack. Already increased VDDCR voltage +180m but the result was the same. Don`t know if it`s memory or cpu that is causing this.
Also, the temperatures running this test gets really hot... 75ÂșC... compared with 65Âș on OCCT_CPU.

But the system is already stable for my daily use (just playing games), and the performance is superb, playing all games @4k ultra, that was my goal when I bought this machine.


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

eventually i think the new agesa at some stage will yes

im trying to help you and others now though

you may find whats holding your ram back is the 1t setting

to use 2t you also need to disable 'geardown mode' first

please note if not done so yet
save the settings you have in a bios profile. so you can quickly reset back

Yes, thank you, it`s important the people try to help others.
On my tests with 3200mhz, I was using all the settings with auto, the only value set manualy was the spped 1600mhz, probably auto = 2t on that specific setting.
It looks like with current bios version I will not be able to use 3200mhz.

What is strange  for me is that, if I load default settings -> save and exit -> enter bios -> set xmp profile 1 (3200mhz) -> save and exit the system boots in windows, despite not beeing stable (blue screens playing games). And after it won`t boot anymore, it will start again in safe mode with default settings.


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 12:12am
Returning my Asrock Fatality Professional Gaming and Gskill 3200mhz flare-x due to lack of memory support and lack of technical support from both companies.

 I will be going to another platform and a different motherboard manufacturer and different memory manufacturer..


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Asrock Fatality x370 Professional Gaming with lousy memory support, Ryzen1700, 16gb Gskill ripjawsV 3200mhz 16-16-16-36, Samsung 950evo m.2,


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 3:10am
Update:
If I set load default bios settings -> save and exit -> enter bios -> set xmp profile 1 (3200mhz) -> save and exit -> The system boots fine in windows (despite not stable, already got a blue screen gaming).

But if I restart the computer or shut it down it won`t boot again, it will star in safe mode with default settings.

Searching around in the bios I saw I was also missing to set cpu option fan to be in water pump mode. Newbie...

I am now runing the system stable with 3800mhz with 1.28125v! Happy!
Cinebench score 1655.
Running CPU:OCCT for 30 minutes, the temperature rises until 69ÂșC and then drops until 65ÂșC and remains between those values.

Really happy with my machine. I hope I will be able to set the 3200mhz with these memories and motherboard near in the future.


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: MisterJ
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 3:26am
" rel="nofollow - Valter84, you said
Quote I am now runing the system stable with 3800mhz with 1.28125v! Happy!
Is this what you meant?  Enjoy, John.


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Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 5:21am
What made me open this thread was this:

"I hope I will be able to set the 3200mhz with these memories and motherboard near in the future."

But I am already happy with my computer performance. I bought this hardware to be able to play @4k/ultra connected to my 4k tv. Previous I had a playstation 4 Pro and the diference is huge. 


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 12:23pm
Valter ur cpu voltage is very low. Try making it 1.3v for 3.8ghz

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Asrock X370 Gaming X 4.90 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by chubalz chubalz wrote:

Valter ur cpu voltage is very low. Try making it 1.3v for 3.8ghz
Why should I increase if it`s stable?
Runs Cinebench several times, prime95 for 1hour and CPU:OCCT for 30m, no problem.

Yesterday played for 1hour battlefield1, max temperature 61ÂșC. Smile


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 7:20pm
Mine is stable also 1.3v on 3.8ghz running cinebench and prime95. But the problem is if u reboot ur system sometimes no post as it was stated by yours that no post and we have same symptoms. The culprit is u have low voltages. U can tell if ur OC is stable if u restart plenty times as this is my experience. We have the same mobo and bios. Running on cinebench and prime95 is not the fix but play it for an hour then reboot ur system. See if u have perfect post and thats what i call stable on X370 gaming x. Test it for 3 days not 1 day only

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Asrock X370 Gaming X 4.90 Bios
CM MA610P
Aorus Xtreme Gtx1080ti
Gskill Trident Z RGB F4-300016D-16GTZR @2800mhz
SamsungEvo 250
2Tb Firecuda
1Tb WDBlack
Corsair RM650X


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 7:32pm
Originally posted by chubalz chubalz wrote:

Mine is stable also 1.3v on 3.8ghz running cinebench and prime95. But the problem is if u reboot ur system sometimes no post as it was stated by your that no post and same symptoms we have. The culprit is u have low voltages. U can tell if ur OC is stable if u restart plenty times as this is my experience. We have the same mobo and bios. Running on cinebench and prime95 is not the fix but play it for an hour then reboot ur system. See if u have stable. Test it for 3 days not 1 day only

When I was playing around with memory settings to see if I could use 3200mhz, I was using CPU default settings, no OC. That is not the cause for the system not booting.
The system is booting properly with 3800mhz @ 1.28125v and memory with XMP profile 1 but instead of 3200mhz, 3066mhz.

I already have restarted the computer many times, shut down, start, it`s working stable. If doesn`t boot properly or if I get a freeze in windows, I will take your advice and give a little boost on cpu voltage. Smile




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MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: chubalz
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 7:44pm
" rel="nofollow - How much VDDRC SOC voltage u increase?

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1Tb WDBlack
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Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by chubalz chubalz wrote:

" rel="nofollow - How much VDDRC SOC voltage u increase?
None, it`s on auto value.


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MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: nangu
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2017 at 11:35pm
These voltages are absolutely fine on a 1700. Seems like you won the silicon lottery, as mine too.

I run @3.9 1.25 volts, SoC @0.92 volts, LLC4 on both, memory @2933 1.375 volts. Anyway, I can't call it rock solid because I don't like running Prime95 for more than an hour, but it's stable enough for my needs: Post ok everyday, no BSOD, no strange behaviour, etc. Very very good silicon on my end.


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Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2017 at 5:38am
I have news.

I am already able to boot with 3200mhz but the system is not stable.
I have set xmp profile 1, set 2T, gear down mode and power down disabled, vdcr +300mv and dram voltage to 1.395.
The system boots, I can shut down the pc or restart it and always boots fine but windows is unstable.
Getting blue screens and all software to test system stability fails.

I hope that with another bios update from asrock we fix these issues. I have researched and there is a review online for the same specific RAM modules I have and the guy was able to get 3200mhz stable from a ryzen 7 1700 with a gigabyte x370 gaming 5.

So for now, I am runing @ 3066mhz but changed the settings to 16-17-17-36-34-1T. Ram Voltage 1.375 and VDCR +180mv. I also have changed cpu voltage to 1.2875 @ 3800mhz. It`s stable and I am getting 1657 on Cinebench.

I hope this will help others.

Best regards,



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MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2017 at 8:58pm
your cpu voltage is on the low side for 3.8

this may be part of the issue
it is not extremely low but it is in the region of stable only with the top 20-25% maybe of 1700's

i would advise if trying/testing ram stability to increase it to known good voltages to eleiminate that from the equation (e.g. 1.35+ volts) while you are testing ram


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Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2017 at 4:20am
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

your cpu voltage is on the low side for 3.8

this may be part of the issue
it is not extremely low but it is in the region of stable only with the top 20-25% maybe of 1700's

i would advise if trying/testing ram stability to increase it to known good voltages to eleiminate that from the equation (e.g. 1.35+ volts) while you are testing ram
When I am testing ram OC, I always set cpu to auto.


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2017 at 3:58pm
Hello, I have retorned this motherboard and move to gigabyte ab350 gaming 3.
I am now able to get 3200mhz from my memory.
Thank you for your help.


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: Ivan_83
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2017 at 10:07pm
gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 - is CRAP!
Goto bios, and wait for 1 hour. VRM will overheat and mobo tuns off, or you need agressive cooling system.


Posted By: Valter84
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 3:26pm
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Originally posted by Ivan_83 Ivan_83 wrote:

gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 - is CRAP!
Goto bios, and wait for 1 hour. VRM will overheat and mobo tuns off, or you need agressive cooling system.
For sure the gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 is worse then the asrock x370 gaming x but I am able to use my memory @ 3200mhz and I have saved 40??


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Amd Ryzen 7 1700 (3800mhz @ 1.28750v)
MasterLiquid 120 Lite
ASROCK x370 Gaminx X (bios V3.20)
2x8Gb hx432c16pb3k2/16 @ 3066mhz
Kingston 500Gb SSD
GigaByte 1080Ti Xtr Ed
Seasonic 850w Plat
Corsair 200R


Posted By: Ivan_83
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2017 at 2:02am
Yes, gigabyte gaming 3 is crap.
It was my first am4 mobo, and I RMA it in fist weak because VRM overheat.
You can get 3200 and save 400$ but it not work under full load long time without very active cooling.
If you want gigabyte that choose between:
Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming K7
Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming 5
only these two have good VRM on IR35201 6 phases.

Asrock make 6 phases even on cheap A320M Pro4/AB350M Pro4/AB350 Pro4 (ISL95712 and 3 doubled phases = 6 phases)

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html
IMHO if mobo does not have 6 phases (real or 3 doubled) - that it crap that can work only with 65 Watt TDP CPU without overclocking, and requires good cooling.

By my personal VRM criteria:
- almost all asrock is good
- almost all: asus, gigabyte, biostar and msi - is crap.


PS: I never use asrock before am4, I use 4years with asus, 3 years with epox and last ~10 gigabyte.
I try gigabyte at first with am4 and fail die to bad VRM design.
I see gigabyte for intel and compare gigbyte for AM4 - and see only ultra low price mobos and two highend (really one with differ only one chip). No ud3, ud5 and other REAL middle segment are present.

ASRock not ideal, but for am4 now it is more good than all other.


Posted By: Lobsang15
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2017 at 1:21pm
Ive been using x370 gaming x + ryzen 5 1600 stock clock + patriot viper pv416g340c6k (2x8gb). Bios 3.20 newest

Xmp profile enable, running on 3200mhz 16-17-17-17-36. 1,35voltage, and everything else on auto. Sticked in dram slot a2 - b2

That setting is the most stable for playing games hours without crashing nor bluescreen, cool boot no issue.

This is my first asrock mobo and had no problems so far. Before i was with msi+fx8370e the vrm got too hot when OC so i sold it n upgrade to am4.


Posted By: Ron3438
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2017 at 1:53am
I have same MB and CPU, Ryzen CPU only can handle memory to 3000hz. I got 3200 as well but it will not quite reach 3000 in reality.


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Posted By: MrMoon
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2018 at 2:22am
AB350+ Ryzen 5 1600 (stock clock) + Patriot Viper 4 RAM (pv416g340c6k), i confirm that with BIOS 4.40 RAM runs at 3333MHz with XMP profile.



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