https://forum.asrock.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:45:47 +0000 Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:36:06 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://forum.asrock.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=11409 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums_black.png https://forum.asrock.com/ https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=64604&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#64604 Author: JonnyVee
Subject: 11409
Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 6:36pm


Looks lije there might be hope.

[URL= ]https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ryzen-3000-asus-opens-up-pcie-4-support-for-selected-x470-and-b450-boards.html[/URL]]]> Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:36:06 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=64604&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#64604 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63597&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63597 Author: T1125P
Subject: 11409
Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 1:13pm

And here is the final say from AMD themselves, from reddit Robert Hallock: "This is an error we are correcting. Pre-X570 boards will not support PCIe Gen 4. There's no guarantee that older motherboards can reliably run the more stringent signaling requirements of Gen4, and we simply cannot have a mix of "yes, no, maybe" in the market for all the older motherboards. The potential for confusion is too high.

When final BIOSes are released for 3rd Gen Ryzen (AGESA 1000+), Gen4 will not be an option anymore. We wish we could've enabled this backwards, but the risk is too great."

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/buydi6/amds_robert_hallock_no_pcie_40_support_on_300_and/eplj20j/

So that's that. :D I'm fine with that. On another note I just seen the x470 get a new BIOS v3.43 Ryzen 3000 support and Enhance AMD XFR 2.0 function; change AMD PBO rule with Pinnacle CPU.
Support SMT mode disable.]]> Wed, 05 Jun 2019 13:13:16 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63597&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63597 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63596&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63596 Author: gizmic
Subject: 11409
Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 11:55am

dunno why you guys still talking about gpu and pci-e 4.0 the gpu's barely fully use it its more about storage


like the upcoming corsair MP600 alone does 4950MB/s (R) & 4250MB/s (W)

my m.2 slot maxes out at 4000MB/s gen3 X4

imagine those in a raid card on a full X16 slot

]]> Wed, 05 Jun 2019 11:55:04 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63596&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63596 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63585&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63585 Author: T1125P
Subject: 11409
Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 4:46am

Yes I agree. After reading many threads on PCIE 3.0 with graphics cards, they barely even use all the bandwidth of PCIE 3.0, unless maybe with 2 GPUS running in SLI at 4K with say 2 RTX 2080ti's or higher. If your using 1 GPU now or in the future, we are all fine for I would guess maybe for 2-3 years more before we see games demand more bandwidth from PCIE. For now it's all about storage. I read that PCIE 4.0 can hit 5,000 MB/s. I'm more than fine with my 512GB 970 Pro. I get 3,566 MB/s read & 2,330 MB/s write. No point to upgrade for 1.5GB more bandwidth that would be a waste of $$. I'm happy I can just buy the 3800x and drop it in my x470 ^_^]]> Wed, 05 Jun 2019 04:46:26 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63585&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63585 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63577&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63577 Author: brkkab123
Subject: 11409
Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 12:28am

Does this really matter to anyone ?
Atleast it shouldn't at this point.
It's not like any video cards or other hardware sold now, that any of us can buy are PCIe 4 cpapble and require it to work.]]> Wed, 05 Jun 2019 00:28:32 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63577&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63577 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63568&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63568 Author: Xaltar
Subject: 11409
Posted: 04 Jun 2019 at 3:01pm

I have to be honest, I am not dissapointed that PCIe 4.0 will be restricted to 500 series chipset boards. AMD's track record hasn't been smooth as it is, throw in a new PCIe standard on boards that were not designed for it and you are asking for headaches. The key problem is that AMD don't design the boards and board partners can't predict what will be coming in a generation or 2. Don't get me wrong, AMD are doing a great job shaking up the market but they have teething problems to iron out. Intel have had a lot longer and a lot more budget to iron out their launch cycle. When you consider that Intel's architecture is largely unchanged since Sandy Bridge it becomes clear why AMD, on it's relatively new Zen platform, has some catching up to do.

PCIe 4.0 at present only benefits high bandwidth applications and as it stands, the only practical application is with storage. On the GPU front, PCIe 4.0 is overkill in the extreme right now in all but one way; a x1 PCIe 4.0 slot will be equivalent in bandwidth to an x4 PCIe 2.0 slot where it comes to bandwidth. In theory that could mean we might see SFF GPUs on x1 PCIe slots, all the way up to about the performance of a GTX 1650 before bandwidth bottlenecks make it impractical. If x2 slots (or at least x2 wired slots) become a thing that could go even further. Once we start seeing low tier 500 series chipsets I could see the SFF market exploding with options. ]]> Tue, 04 Jun 2019 15:01:17 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63568&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63568 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63563&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63563 Author: gizmic
Subject: 11409
Posted: 04 Jun 2019 at 10:22am

nvm raid]]> Tue, 04 Jun 2019 10:22:39 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63563&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63563 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63556&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63556 Author: kschendel
Subject: 11409
Posted: 03 Jun 2019 at 10:22pm

To be honest I don't see this as a big deal. PCIe 4.0 does very little to help current PCIe add-in cards, even GPU's. IMO the main benefit at least in the medium term will be more bandwidth to the chipset, so that the chipset can feed more ports of all types without saturating the link back to the CPU. I'd be surprised if the X470 chipset has the ability to talk 4.0, or the excess capacity to make use of it.

(I suppose that PCIe 4.0 to NVMe SSD's is another potential benefit, and that would be nice, except that transfer time isn't the overwhelming majority of total time that it is in the HDD world.)
]]> Mon, 03 Jun 2019 22:22:36 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63556&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63556 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63462&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63462 Author: xhue
Subject: 11409
Posted: 31 May 2019 at 11:35pm

paologab wrote: no support for pci 4.0 on x470 and earlier. https://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/27653-amd-klipper-pci-express-4-0-stod-for-aldre-moderkort-i-400-och-300-serien

In bird culture that is considered a dick move.]]> Fri, 31 May 2019 23:35:42 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63462&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63462 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63460&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63460 Author: paologab
Subject: 11409
Posted: 31 May 2019 at 10:52pm

no support for pci 4.0 on x470 and earlier.

https://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/27653-amd-klipper-pci-express-4-0-stod-for-aldre-moderkort-i-400-och-300-serien]]> Fri, 31 May 2019 22:52:14 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11409&PID=63460&title=x470-taichi-pcie-4-0#63460