ASRock Forums : Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! https://forum.asrock.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 01 May 2026 04:46:10 +0000 Thu, 12 May 2016 09:55:12 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://forum.asrock.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2321 <![CDATA[ASRock Forums]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums_black.png https://forum.asrock.com/ <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : bshagen wrote: freak77power...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=13112&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#13112 Author: parsec
Subject: 2321
Posted: 12 May 2016 at 9:55am

Originally posted by bshagen bshagen wrote:

Originally posted by freak77power freak77power wrote:

I flashed ASRock x99 Extreme 4 with updated BIOS and re-flashed it back to older 1.30 because power management in new bios is seriously broken. Windows is reporting lot of errors in event viewer regarding to CPU  core 0, core 1 and so on and broken power state.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99%20Extreme43.1/?cat=Download&os=BIOS

X99 Extreme 4 USB 3.1



This might explain the problems I have overclocking on 3.20 on my OCF 3.1? 

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2634&title=x99-oc-formula-31-issues-with-bios-update-320


Yes, I saw your post.

In the past, any time there was an Intel mother board and chipset system that can work with a new processor (such as X79 and the Intel six series chipsets (P67, Z68) boards, BOTH used orignally with Sandy Bridge processors, and later could use Ivy Bridge processors), the UEFI/BIOS update was NOT the only thing needed for compatibility with the new processor generation.

What was the other thing needed to complete the Sandy to Ivy Bridge compatibility update? A new version of the Intel Management Engine software, and a new INF/chipset file installation program.

If you check the download pages of any mother board manufacture's X79 and Intel six series chipset boards, the UEFI/BIOS update for Ivy Bridge compatibility also includes new versions of the IME and INF software. ASRock includes links to those things (and others) on the Ivy Bridge compatibility UEFI/BIOS update version download page.

While the Intel Management Engine (IME) software is usually seen by PC enthusiasts as only needed for its enterprise/business features (which IME does provide), that is not just the purpose of the IME software.

The IME software acts as the communication link between the processor's internal registers and the OS (Windows) environment. The UEFI/BIOS update for compatibility with a new processor generation contains an IME firmware update (the IME firmware is part of the UEFI/BIOS file), which is what requires a new version of the IME software we install in our Windows installation.

The function of the IME software and firmware I'm referring to is difficult to explain. Overall, what matters is I believe there will be (should be, must be) a new version of the IME software that will complete the Haswell-E to Broadwell-E processor compatibility update.

That is how it has worked in the past, why should that be different now? I might be wrong, but guess what the symptoms of not installing the new IME software version along with the Sandy to Ivy Bridge compatibility UEFI/BIOS update are? Strange issues like you are experiencing, plus things like over clocking failing.

That is why I believe new IME software and INF/Chipset installation programs will be needed for X99 systems for use with Broadwell-E processors, and the UEFI version that supports them, whether or not we have a Broadwell-E processor in our X99 board. It's the same thing we experienced in the past with X79, etc.

So where are the new IME and INF/Chipset installation programs for X99 and Broadwell-E? They come from Intel, and can only come from Intel. If they were available from Intel, mother board manufactures would have them available on our X99 board's download pages.

I just checked another mother board manufacture's X99 board's download pages for Intel IME and INF/Chipset software. I looked at their latest, top of the line X99 board. The IME software for Win 10 was a version older than what is available on my ASRock X99 Extreme6/3.1 board's download page. The files are dated July or August of 2015, so definitely pre-Broadwell-E. Same thing for the INF/Chipset software. The other manufacture's X99 board has a UEFI update to support Broadwell-E, classified as a Beta version.

So why are the Broadwell-E compatibility UEFI updates made available, if they require updated IME and INF/Chipset software? Probably for marketing and political/public relations reasons. Some ASRock X99 board users were asking not long ago when the Broadwell-E UEFI updates for their boards will be available. They are worried their board will be overlooked for some reason. If one mother board manufacture releases Broadwell-E compatibility UEFI updates, if the others don't as well that is perceived as strange and bad, something is wrong with those manufactures. Then false rumors begin when someone posts in a forum that "... the XYZ X99 boards are not getting UEFI updates for Broadwell-E...". Some people will read that and believe it, do no research of their own, and pass the false information on themselves. Pinch

We will see fairly soon if my theory is correct. I do know that after all the issues I have seen in mother board support forums caused by users updating their UEFI/BIOS to the version that adds compatibility for a new processor generation on their P67, Z68, and X79 boards, without also updating the IME and INF/Chipset software (when available), I would never update to the new UEFI version until everything has been sorted out. My X99 board does not have the Broadwell-E compatibility UEFI version installed, and I'm in no hurry to perform that update... if I ever do it.
]]> Thu, 12 May 2016 09:55:12 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=13112&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#13112 <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : freak77power wrote:I flashed...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=13100&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#13100 Author: bshagen
Subject: 2321
Posted: 11 May 2016 at 11:03pm

Originally posted by freak77power freak77power wrote:

I flashed ASRock x99 Extreme 4 with updated BIOS and re-flashed it back to older 1.30 because power management in new bios is seriously broken. Windows is reporting lot of errors in event viewer regarding to CPU  core 0, core 1 and so on and broken power state.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99%20Extreme43.1/?cat=Download&os=BIOS

X99 Extreme 4 USB 3.1



This might explain the problems I have overclocking on 3.20 on my OCF 3.1? 

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2634&title=x99-oc-formula-31-issues-with-bios-update-320


Edited by bshagen - 11 May 2016 at 11:04pm]]> Wed, 11 May 2016 23:03:12 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=13100&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#13100 <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : Asus is the only OEM that I am...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=12381&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#12381 Author: DooRules
Subject: 2321
Posted: 15 Apr 2016 at 10:57pm

Asus is the only OEM that I am aware of that does not need cpu, ram, hdd,  or gpu to flash mobo bios. Awesome feature really.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?1142-How-to-use-ASUS-ROG-USB-BIOS-Flashback


But them 10 core new chips, getting me one of them for sure.Smile
]]> Fri, 15 Apr 2016 22:57:37 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=12381&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#12381 <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : I flashed ASRock x99 Extreme 4...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=12115&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#12115 Author: freak77power
Subject: 2321
Posted: 07 Apr 2016 at 12:48am

I flashed ASRock x99 Extreme 4 with updated BIOS and re-flashed it back to older 1.30 because power management in new bios is seriously broken. Windows is reporting lot of errors in event viewer regarding to CPU  core 0, core 1 and so on and broken power state.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99%20Extreme43.1/?cat=Download&os=BIOS

X99 Extreme 4 USB 3.1


Edited by freak77power - 07 Apr 2016 at 12:52am]]> Thu, 07 Apr 2016 00:48:19 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=12115&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#12115 <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : I wouldn&#039;t know what to do...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11918&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11918 Author: Xaltar
Subject: 2321
Posted: 01 Apr 2016 at 4:49am

I wouldn't know what to do with 22 cores/44 threads Shocked

I still remember putting together a quad Pentium Pro server back in the late 90s for a client that wanted "the best money could buy" and thinking what the hell could  they need all that CPU power for..... As it turned out, they didn't. What they ended up using it for could have been handled by a Celeron 300a LOL


]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2016 04:49:34 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11918&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11918 <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : Xaltar wrote:I guess we can...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11916&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11916 Author: parsec
Subject: 2321
Posted: 01 Apr 2016 at 2:33am

Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

I guess we can keep this thread handy for performance figures become available.

10 cores on a non-Xeon CPU Heart gimme Hug


That would be nice. Wink

But what about a 22 core Broadwell-E Xeon... Shocked

Just sayin'  LOL
]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2016 02:33:29 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11916&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11916 <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : ... and on sale at Amazon... shipping...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11915&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11915 Author: parsec
Subject: 2321
Posted: 01 Apr 2016 at 2:31am

... and on sale at Amazon... shipping date said to be the first week of April. (??) I hope not another Skylake-like launch, with availability questionable at best.

IMO, Broadwell-E might be... weird. Excluding Xeons, just the HEDT models.

I base that on the unusual nature of mainstream Broadwell processors. Very few SKUs, unusual types, 'R' and 'C', TDP-down frequency and TDP.

Unless Broadwell-E HEDT is HEDT as usual, which it must be, right? Pinch

One statistic from the Tom's review got my attention. Intel has 99% of the market for data center processors. Shocked

AMD, where are you?!?!?! Confused
]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2016 02:31:37 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11915&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11915 <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : BamBroadwell Xeon review on Tom&#039;s....]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11913&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11913 Author: Xaltar
Subject: 2321
Posted: 01 Apr 2016 at 1:08am

Bam Broadwell Xeon review on Tom's.]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2016 01:08:09 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11913&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11913 <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : I guess we can keep this thread...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11846&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11846 Author: Xaltar
Subject: 2321
Posted: 30 Mar 2016 at 12:01am

I guess we can keep this thread handy for performance figures become available.

10 cores on a non-Xeon CPU Heart gimme Hug
]]> Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:01:20 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11846&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11846 <![CDATA[Broadwell-E HEDT Processors Coming Soon! : As Xaltar said, the UEFI/BIOS...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11845&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11845 Author: parsec
Subject: 2321
Posted: 29 Mar 2016 at 11:43pm

As Xaltar said, the UEFI/BIOS on any ASRock board cannot be updated without a CPU in the board. The board will not POST or work at all without a processor.

In the past, when updating the UEFI/BIOS to a version that is compatible with a new generation of processors, the new generation processor could NOT be used to update the UEFI/BIOS to the new version. If Broadwell-E is an exception to this, it would be the first time that has ever happened for a new Intel processor.

The list of options that Xaltar provided above are the only methods of updating the UEFI/BIOS to the version compatible with the new generation processor.

Xaltar, I am also curious about the Broadwell-E HEDT processors. We know that the top of the line Broadwell-E processor will be the first 10 core CPU that Intel has released that is not a Xeon.

The mainstream Broadwell CPUs are unusual, none are categorized as 'K' types. The performance of Broadwell-E processors will be very interesting to see! Shocked
]]> Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:43:36 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2321&PID=11845&title=broadwelle-hedt-processors-coming-soon#11845