https://forum.asrock.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 16 Apr 2026 20:12:08 +0000 Fri, 30 Aug 2024 16:13:13 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://forum.asrock.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=30954 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums_black.png https://forum.asrock.com/ https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=141933&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#141933 Author: TairikuOkami
Subject: 30954
Posted: 30 Aug 2024 at 4:13pm

So this issue will never get fixed?! I had to RMA the first motherboard, the second one suffers from this.

The second one actually came with 3.01, after updating it to 3.06, RAM speed can not be changed and on top of it, it breaks restart/shutdown, reverting changes does nothing, I have to reflash BIOS to get it working again. RAM works just fine at 4800 CL40 though. I am glad I did buy a faster one, it would be waste of money.]]> Fri, 30 Aug 2024 16:13:13 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=141933&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#141933 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=121806&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#121806 Author: mrbill
Subject: 30954
Posted: 17 May 2024 at 8:59am

Just a follow-up on this. Received a response to my support ticket from Eric (USA). Asked if I tried different USB drives to update the FW, which I did and works just fine when rolling back to 1.30 AS05. He also sent a pic stating they recommend not updating FW if it's working ok. Problem is the LogoFAIL vulnerability exists in this FW, which I pointed out to him on August 29, 2024. I've received no response back. Not thrilled I'm running a MB with old FW that can't be updated to address security vulnerabilities.

]]> Fri, 17 May 2024 08:59:36 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=121806&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#121806 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=118136&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#118136 Author: mrbill
Subject: 30954
Posted: 28 Apr 2024 at 6:06am

@Xaltar

Thanks for your response. FW 3.01.AS01 was released so I tried that with the same result - Windows crashes before loading so I'm back on 1.30.AS05 which is six FW updates earlier.

I ran into a similar problem a while back, but they corrected it on their own with a future FW update. I suspect the reason why there aren't many others reporting similar problems is because they are using different RAM or are just like I've been which is not reporting a problem for five FW updates. Regardless, I did submit a support request and did receive an email acknowledgement from them. So we will see if/when they do respond.

Have a good weekend.]]> Sun, 28 Apr 2024 06:06:42 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=118136&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#118136 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117077&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117077 Author: Xaltar
Subject: 30954
Posted: 21 Apr 2024 at 10:48pm

RAM support is a tricky beast, particularly since the IMC is located on the CPU
on modern CPUs. This means any change to the IMC or a CPU quality issue adversely effects
RAM compatibility. Another major issue is that RAM manufacturers will often change
the components of a particular model of RAM without warning or notification. It's
not uncommon to see 2 RAM modules of the same model number have completely different
physical RAM chips on them. So long as the RAM chips meet the technical specs
of the model they will change them (usually due to availability issues). I am
sure you can guess that this also hurts compatibility.

Fairly often, unless you are seeing a lot of other people with your board model
reporting the same issue, the problem is coming from the CPU not the actual board.
I have a brand new out the box 3600 that never worked with anything over JEDEC
speeds on any board I have tried it in. It's memory controller was borderline bad
right out the box. Unfortunately it had been sitting on a shelf for over a year
before I tested it so I missed my return window and AMD refused an RMA citing
that it worked as intended at it's rated RAM speeds.

As I said in response to your reply in essential's thread, make sure your support
ticket went through and that you received the automated confirmation email.]]> Sun, 21 Apr 2024 22:48:53 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117077&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117077 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117071&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117071 Author: mrbill
Subject: 30954
Posted: 20 Apr 2024 at 11:07pm

I was finally able to get it to train (screen was black for a few minutes during training). After training, RAM was set to 4800 by MB despite my initial efforts to train to 5200. Windows was unstable at 4800 and would crash after a minute or two (see pic). So I had to rollback again to FW 1.30 AS05

I was an early adopter with the MB, which is why all components in this system are QVL supported. Using QVL supported Gskill memory, there should be no need to train memory anyway. To say this is frustrating is an unederstatement - I've been down this path before with a much older FW. Then I had opened up a support case and ASRock never responded. Not sure if I'll waste my time again because ASRock doesn't appear to test their FW against what they recommend on the QVL anyway. This will be the last ASRock MB I purchase and at work I will deny the purchase of any workstations configured with an ASRock MB due to their poor support.

]]> Sat, 20 Apr 2024 23:07:53 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117071&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117071 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117065&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117065 Author: mrbill
Subject: 30954
Posted: 20 Apr 2024 at 11:00am

When the MB trains memory, what does it do? I just get a black screen for 30 minutes or so. There's no indication training is taking place. Then I hard boot, it goes to boot Windows and immediately encounters an error. Then they system restarts to the Asrock boot screen and stays there for another 30 minutes before I finally must revert back to 1.30 AS05 FW. Might it be the 670E will not accept training options like the B650?]]> Sat, 20 Apr 2024 11:00:57 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117065&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117065 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117057&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117057 Author: M440
Subject: 30954
Posted: 19 Apr 2024 at 11:07am

mrbill wrote: M440 wrote: mrbill wrote: Training isn?�t working for me. - screen stays black for 30+ minutes. Nothing works for me beyond. FW 1.30 AS05. update the ancient bios to the most recent 2.10 (as of today). Repeat what you did for the newly updated bios As I said, nothing works beyond FW 1.30 AS05. FW 2.00, 2.02, 2.08 and 2.10 all fail and will not train with memory on the QVL which obviously has not been supported since 1.30 AS05. Try to train and the screen stays black for 30+ minutes. Let it boot right into Windows and an immediate Win error occurs.

Thats what i understand - firmware ~1.30 introduced memory training options, so if it worked for pre ~1.30 it can work at new bioses too - you just have to set memory training options. Unfortunatelly the 'default' or 'auto' dont work for your memory RAM product. ]]> Fri, 19 Apr 2024 11:07:47 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117057&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117057 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117049&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117049 Author: mrbill
Subject: 30954
Posted: 18 Apr 2024 at 6:30pm

M440 wrote: mrbill wrote: Training isn?�t working for me. - screen stays black for 30+ minutes. Nothing works for me beyond. FW 1.30 AS05. update the ancient bios to the most recent 2.10 (as of today). Repeat what you did for the newly updated bios

As I said, nothing works beyond FW 1.30 AS05. FW 2.00, 2.02, 2.08 and 2.10 all fail and will not train with memory on the QVL which obviously has not been supported since 1.30 AS05. Try to train and the screen stays black for 30+ minutes. Let it boot right into Windows and an immediate Win error occurs.]]> Thu, 18 Apr 2024 18:30:19 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117049&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117049 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117044&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117044 Author: M440
Subject: 30954
Posted: 18 Apr 2024 at 1:13pm

mrbill wrote: Training isn?�t working for me. - screen stays black for 30+ minutes. Nothing works for me beyond. FW 1.30 AS05.

update the ancient bios to the most recent 2.10 (as of today). Repeat what you did for the newly updated bios]]> Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:13:29 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117044&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117044 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117035&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117035 Author: mrbill
Subject: 30954
Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 9:55am

Training isn?™t working for me. - screen stays black for 30+ minutes. Nothing works for me beyond. FW 1.30 AS05. ]]> Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:55:24 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=30954&PID=117035&title=solved-b650m-hdv-m2-bios-memory-stability-issues#117035