https://forum.asrock.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 22 Jun 2026 00:32:08 +0000 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:24:05 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://forum.asrock.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3270 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums_black.png https://forum.asrock.com/ https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16746&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16746 Author: wardog
Subject: 3270
Posted: 13 Sep 2016 at 12:24am

Thank YOU for posting what you discovered.
]]> Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:24:05 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16746&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16746 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16742&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16742 Author: cybermcm
Subject: 3270
Posted: 12 Sep 2016 at 10:23pm

I think it's safe for me to officially close my "case". WOL works as expected and no more cold boots into BIOS.
Fast boot enabled was the cause. If Fast Boot is disabled (default setting) the cold boot effect vanishes.
Thanks for all your patience and help!

[Update]
A summary how to enable WOL (Wake on LAN)
BIOS:
Enable Wake PCIe devices (default disabled)
Disable Fast Boot (default disabled)
Disable Deep Sleep (default disabled)

Win 10:
Install Intel NIC driver, settings:
1) Respond to ARP requests... -> enabled
2) Respond to NS requests.... -> enabled
3) Energy Efficient Ethernet -> disabled
4) Reduce Link Speed... -> disabled
5) Wake on Magic Packet -> enabled
6) Wake on Pattern Match -> disabled
7) Wake on Magic Packet from power off state -> enabled
8) Wake on Link Settings -> Disabled

Disable Fast Boot in Windows power options (default enabled)!


Edited by cybermcm - 13 Sep 2016 at 2:02pm]]> Mon, 12 Sep 2016 22:23:33 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16742&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16742 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16615&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16615 Author: cybermcm
Subject: 3270
Posted: 08 Sep 2016 at 4:17pm

lindend wrote: Are you indicating that if you disable the UEFI fast boot, you don't see this issue?  I've never enabled UEFI fast boot so that isn't the source of my problem.  That being said, next boot, I will very that its disabled (default state).

Another idea: Please try to reset UEFI back to default settings and enable only the WOL function (PCIE devices). Don't change anything else if possible and then try again...
]]> Thu, 08 Sep 2016 16:17:59 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16615&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16615 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16576&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16576 Author: wardog
Subject: 3270
Posted: 07 Sep 2016 at 5:13pm

lindend wrote: cybermcm wrote: Off-topic: Neither my gmail or outlook.com address is able to get mails from this forum (e.g. replies to this thread). Am I alone with this problem? I don't get notifications either.

Sux doesn't it. It's being looked into.

Imagine keeping track of the threads us Mods post to ........... sigh.

Hopefully to be remedied. Soon I hope.
]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2016 17:13:58 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16576&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16576 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16575&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16575 Author: cybermcm
Subject: 3270
Posted: 07 Sep 2016 at 5:13pm

lindend wrote: Are you indicating that if you disable the UEFI fast boot, you don't see this issue?  I've never enabled UEFI fast boot so that isn't the source of my problem.  That being said, next boot, I will very that its disabled (default state).

Correct, after setting Fast boot to disabled I never experienced a cold boot to BIOS. But I'm still testing, didn't had much time lately...


Edited by cybermcm - 07 Sep 2016 at 5:13pm]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2016 17:13:13 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16575&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16575 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16570&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16570 Author: lindend
Subject: 3270
Posted: 07 Sep 2016 at 11:24am

cybermcm wrote: I'll try to test further but it seems that you got the right idea! Since the moment I disabled Fast Boot I never experienced a cold boot into BIOS. I want to wait a few days longer to close my problem because I didn't had much time lately to do real testing.

Are you indicating that if you disable the UEFI fast boot, you don't see this issue?  I've never enabled UEFI fast boot so that isn't the source of my problem.  That being said, next boot, I will very that its disabled (default state).
]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:24:25 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16570&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16570 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16569&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16569 Author: lindend
Subject: 3270
Posted: 07 Sep 2016 at 11:13am

cybermcm wrote: Have you checked the NIC settings? There is a setting "Wake on magic packet from power off state"? My board boots into UEFI only if WOL is working, so it is the same as you described. Does your board always boots into UEFI after power loss of the PSU or only sometimes? In my case it is often but not always.

The Windows driver settings are identical between machines and both have the option to only allow a magic packet to wake up the computer.

I have noticed that maybe 20% of the time, it boots normally from a cold boot.  Haven't figured out a pattern yet.  Is that roughly the percentage you're seeing?

cybermcm wrote: Thats the correct option. Make sure that you haven't enabled "deep sleep" because then WOL isn't working (at least for me)

Like you, I haven't touched the Deep Sleep setting.  Wonder if that has something to do with this issue?  System in an unknown, undefined state via the default?

]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:13:36 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16569&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16569 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16568&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16568 Author: lindend
Subject: 3270
Posted: 07 Sep 2016 at 11:04am

cybermcm wrote: Off-topic: Neither my gmail or outlook.com address is able to get mails from this forum (e.g. replies to this thread). Am I alone with this problem?

I don't get notifications either.


Edited by lindend - 07 Sep 2016 at 11:20am]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:04:14 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16568&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16568 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16556&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16556 Author: cybermcm
Subject: 3270
Posted: 07 Sep 2016 at 4:11am

parsec wrote: I figured you might have set Deep Sleep to S5, in order to get WOL working. So with Deep Sleep set to S5, and the rest of the configuration above, I experienced the cold boot into the UEFI. I haven't tried to see if it will do it again, and that was NOT on a WOL event. The question that remains is, what did you have Deep Sleep set to in your UEFI?

Sorry for the delayed answer, I wasn't @home for a few days.
Deep Sleep: I never touched this option, so it is still set to disabled (WOL working).

I'll try to test further but it seems that you got the right idea! Since the moment I disabled Fast Boot I never experienced a cold boot into BIOS. I want to wait a few days longer to close my problem because I didn't had much time lately to do real testing.

Off-topic: Neither my gmail or outlook.com address is able to get mails from this forum (e.g. replies to this thread). Am I alone with this problem?
]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2016 04:11:31 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16556&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16556 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16506&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16506 Author: parsec
Subject: 3270
Posted: 05 Sep 2016 at 9:20am

cybermcm, I finally got my H110 chipset PC (the new DeskMini 110W) to start into the UEFI after a power reset.

You know the configuration, Wake on LAN enabled in the UEFI and in the Intel network driver. Yes I did not have Reduce Link Speed checked. I had Windows 10 fast startup unchecked, and cold booted a few times to be sure it was not active. I had Fast Boot set to Ultra Fast, the only Fast Boot setting I had available in the UEFI of this board, the H110M-STX, since I have a UEFI booting Windows 10 installation, installed with CSM disabled.

But what was it, apparently, that caused the cold boot into the UEFI after a power reset?

Something I forgot to ask you about, but tried it anyway. The Deep Sleep option in the UEFI.

Deep Sleep is set to Disabled by default. Frankly, I don't know what power state the board is in when Deep Sleep is Disabled.

I figured you might have set Deep Sleep to S5, in order to get WOL working. BTW, you are correct about Windows fast startup being required to be not enabled (unchecked) in order for WOL to work, that is a known requirement given what I read about it, in multiple places.

So with Deep Sleep set to S5, and the rest of the configuration above, I experienced the cold boot into the UEFI.

I haven't tried to see if it will do it again, and that was NOT on a WOL event. I actually forgot I had that PC ready to test this, and started it up since it has a UEFI update that I wanted to apply.

Also, to be very clear, that was after I had done a power reset on that PC, which did NOT start into the UEFI when I applied power to the PC again. I happened when I powered the PC on manually. Regardless, I think it may be significant in this situation. I wanted to get this out to you ASAP.

The question that remains is, what did you have Deep Sleep set to in your UEFI?


Edited by parsec - 05 Sep 2016 at 9:21am]]> Mon, 05 Sep 2016 09:20:50 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3270&PID=16506&title=h170ax1-3-1-boots-to-bios-sometimes#16506