ASRock Forums : Gemini Lake ITX-motherboard and PCIe https://forum.asrock.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 29 May 2026 01:56:07 +0000 Tue, 30 May 2017 03:55:33 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://forum.asrock.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5243 <![CDATA[ASRock Forums]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums_black.png https://forum.asrock.com/ <![CDATA[Gemini Lake ITX-motherboard and PCIe : The GTX 960 is more powerful than...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=30072&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#30072 Author: alex76
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Posted: 30 May 2017 at 3:55am

The GTX 960 is more powerful than GT 1030 more than twice.
By the way, Gemini Lake should support DDR4, the bus speed can also increase.
Smile


Edited by alex76 - 06 Jun 2017 at 6:27am]]> Tue, 30 May 2017 03:55:33 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=30072&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#30072 <![CDATA[Gemini Lake ITX-motherboard and PCIe : I am inclined to agree with you...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=30054&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#30054 Author: Xaltar
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Posted: 30 May 2017 at 1:52am

I am inclined to agree with you Alex76. I love these low power SoC systems, they really offer a lot for such a low power profile and I for one love seeing what programs and games I can run on my N3150M. 

The MicroATX variants tend to have a full length PCIe slot but the ITX versions don't most of the time. I would like to see at the very least an open ended x1 slot that will allow a full size x16 AIB to be inserted. 

There is at least one intel Apollo Lake based ITX board with a full length PCIe slot already available though:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/J3355B-ITX/index.us.asp

The iGPU on these is actually quite decent, good enough for some 720p gaming on slightly older titles and less demanding ESports games. The GT 1030 would probably be the sweet spot for casual gaming on one of these, any faster and you will see far too much of a bottleneck. My GTX 960 is severely bottlenecked on my N3150 setup, only showing about 40 - 50% load (meaning the CPU can't keep up). 
]]> Tue, 30 May 2017 01:52:30 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=30054&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#30054 <![CDATA[Gemini Lake ITX-motherboard and PCIe : parsec wrote:The J4205 Apollo...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=30047&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#30047 Author: alex76
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Posted: 30 May 2017 at 12:44am

Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:




The J4205 Apollo Lake processor provides six PCIe 2.0 lanes, which can only be configured in certain ways, as the specifications indicate:


I know. This is enough for me! I plan to use low-profile nvidia gt730 or gt1030. It's better than the built-in graphics. But it is inconvenient to connect. But I need a quiet and energy-efficient computer with passive cooling.


Quote With so few resources to work with, and the small size of a Mini-ITX board, does it make sense to have a PCIe 2.0 x16 physical sized slot, that is x4 electrical at best?


But in other motherboards there is J3355B-ITX QC5000-ITX
]]> Tue, 30 May 2017 00:44:35 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=30047&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#30047 <![CDATA[Gemini Lake ITX-motherboard and PCIe : alex76 wrote:Hi!I like J4205-ITX,...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=29992&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#29992 Author: parsec
Subject: 5243
Posted: 28 May 2017 at 9:35pm

Originally posted by alex76 alex76 wrote:

Hi!
I like J4205-ITX, for daily work, archives and games (such as Minecraft and Dota2)
I use 4xSATA-3 - one system ssd 256Gb, the second working SSHD 2Tb and two SSHDs for 2Tb for archives and games. I use good components for this computer, power supply 80 PLUS Gold, etc.
I use a low-profile video card, which I have to connect via a flexible adapter PCIe x1 - x16 that's not cool.
Please, add PCIe 2.0 x16 connector for ease of connection for next top Gemini Lake Pentium ITX-motherboard!

Best Regards


The J4205 Apollo Lake processor provides six PCIe 2.0 lanes, which can only be configured in certain ways, as the specifications indicate:

http://ark.intel.com/products/95591/Intel-Pentium-Processor-J4205-2M-Cache-up-to-2_6-GHz

With so few resources to work with, and the small size of a Mini-ITX board, does it make sense to have a PCIe 2.0 x16 physical sized slot, that is x4 electrical at best?

As of today, we don't have specifications for Gemini Lake, but it does not seem to more than an optimization of Apollo Lake, so it may not have any more PCIe 2.0 lanes.

]]> Sun, 28 May 2017 21:35:20 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=29992&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#29992 <![CDATA[Gemini Lake ITX-motherboard and PCIe : Hi!I like J4205-ITX, for daily...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=29991&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#29991 Author: alex76
Subject: 5243
Posted: 28 May 2017 at 8:41pm

Hi!
I like J4205-ITX, for daily work, archives and games (such as Minecraft and Dota2)
I use 4xSATA-3 - one system ssd 256Gb, the second working SSHD 2Tb and two SSHDs for 2Tb for archives and games. I use good components for this computer, power supply 80 PLUS Gold, etc.
I use a low-profile video card, which I have to connect via a flexible adapter PCIe x1 - x16 that's not cool.
Please, add PCIe 2.0 x16 connector for ease of connection for next top Gemini Lake Pentium ITX-motherboard!

Best Regards]]> Sun, 28 May 2017 20:41:40 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5243&PID=29991&title=gemini-lake-itxmotherboard-and-pcie#29991