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   <title><![CDATA[More than CL14 Timings== stuttering with GTX 1080 :   ShampooCA wrote:So I reported...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5280">Trender</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Jul 2017 at 7:13am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ShampooCA" alt="Originally posted by ShampooCA" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ShampooCA wrote:</strong><br /><br />So I reported in another X370 Gaming K4 thread that I played around with the new 1.0.0.6a BIOS and somehow managed to experience this stuttering.<div><br></div><div>What I mentioned before was only in games, but this time it was in the OS, just on the desktop moving windows around it would stutter/judder as if the CPU were 100% utilized.</div><div><br></div><div>I was playing around with the new BGS &amp; GDM settings when it happened. &nbsp;I simply reset all my memory settings and started over, which resolved the issue.</div><div><br></div><div>I manually set my command rate to 1T and turned off BGS &amp; GDM, and I'm good.</div><div><br></div><div>Memory at 3066Mhz 16-17-17-34 1.35v, dual rank.</div></td></tr></table><div>Fkk me if its this, I disabled AMD Cool &amp; Quiet and 0 stuttering, I didn't wanted to disable it because I don't want my CPU to be at 100% when idle... but jesus if its this</div><div><br></div><div>EDIT:</div><div><br></div><div>Fucks sake STUTTERING IS BACK how not a day later like always this is driving me crazy</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Trender - 20 Jul 2017 at 11:06pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6028">ShampooCA</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jul 2017 at 10:05pm<br /><br />So I reported in another X370 Gaming K4 thread that I played around with the new 1.0.0.6a BIOS and somehow managed to experience this stuttering.<div><br></div><div>What I mentioned before was only in games, but this time it was in the OS, just on the desktop moving windows around it would stutter/judder as if the CPU were 100% utilized.</div><div><br></div><div>I was playing around with the new BGS &amp; GDM settings when it happened. &nbsp;I simply reset all my memory settings and started over, which resolved the issue.</div><div><br></div><div>I manually set my command rate to 1T and turned off BGS &amp; GDM, and I'm good.</div><div><br></div><div>Memory at 3066Mhz 16-17-17-34 1.35v, dual rank.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[More than CL14 Timings== stuttering with GTX 1080 :   Trender wrote:  chainsaw wrote:My...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6028">ShampooCA</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jul 2017 at 3:09am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Trender" alt="Originally posted by Trender" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Trender wrote:</strong><br /><br /><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by chainsaw" alt="Originally posted by chainsaw" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>chainsaw wrote:</strong><br /><br />My GTX 1080's are founder Editions, because the nvidia driver will only let the fans go to 55% i get stuttering also./ its because the core clocks are fluctuating like crazy. you can check if this is your problem using GPU-z and correct the problem with MSI Afterburner to setup a custom Fan profile. hope it helps. some games are just a mess and cant be helped. SMT can cause some stuttering also mixing different refresh rate screens like 144 and 60 causes stuttering for me. Sli does also in some games</td></tr></table></div><div>Mine is the MSI Gaming X so that shouldn't be a problem as fans (I guess) should go up when needed, still didn't saw them more than fans 70% and gpu temp 73º. My monitor is 60 hz and 72 hz when I enable freesync, but it doesn't makes a difference when gaming I still have the stuttering 60 hz or 72 hz freesync or not.(even if it doesn't works with a nvidia card, If I enable it I can up my monitor to 72hz)</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>I'd double check that.</div><div><br>The increased refresh rates for monitors with Freesync are to be used with Freesync, so when you overclock the monitor manually, you do so by choosing a custom refresh rate to match that frequency of 72Hz. &nbsp;You don't just enable Freesync with an Nvidia graphics card and get the higher refresh rate, that could cause problems, and/or it just doesn't work, b/c an AMD card is not detected.</div><div><br></div><div>That could be the cause of your issues.</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[More than CL14 Timings== stuttering with GTX 1080 : What operating system?I noticed...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6028">ShampooCA</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jul 2017 at 3:04am<br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>What operating system?<div><br></div><div>I noticed the stuttering begin after I'd upgraded to Creators Update, but not the initial upgrade, the security and cumulative update immediately after the upgrade.</div><div><br></div><div>It was pretty widespread, didn't matter the type of videocard either, AMD/Nvidia.</div><div><br></div><div>I noticed everything had a stutter to it. &nbsp;People over at some Nvidia forums believed it was a driver issue, but eventually mine went away fairly recently between a BIOS update to 1.0.0.6 AGESA and constant Windows 10 updates.</div><div><br></div><div>Many confirmed their issues went away by downgrading to Win10 build 1607, prior to the Creators Update.</div><div><br></div><div>I seem to be smooth as butter like my system originally was when I put it together back in April/May.</div><div><br></div><div>At the time I was troubleshooting the issue, I was playing with the HPET - High Precision Event Timer, and there was much talk about it. &nbsp;Results were all over the place, but it appeared to help with my older INTEL laptop, but not the Ryzen platform.</div><div><br></div><div>Other than that I'd say it's software, not a hardware issue, or your memory.</div><div><br></div><div>The stuttering happened with no changes to my 16-17-17-34-1T 2666MHz RAM.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5280">Trender</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Jul 2017 at 11:13pm<br /><br /><div>As info I didn't said before: The stutter doesn't matter with game load... if I have stuttering, it will happen even if ur looking at a wall or at a sky with 0 load and 1000 fps, it just doesn't matter more action or less it stutters.</div><div>---</div><div>Here we go again, so yesterday was much smoother than today without even going into bios, didn't changed anything. Now I did some changes and looks smooth again(who knows for how much more...), what I have now is I disabled almost everything on auto for removing randomness. What I set: 3466MHz, 16-16-36 timings, Power Down disabled, Gear Down disabled, 1T, BankGrowpSwap/Alt disabled, mem training disabled,ddr 1.40V, LLC auto(its like disabled I guess).</div><div><br></div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by wardog" alt="Originally posted by wardog" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>wardog wrote:</strong><br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>Do you have mem training Enabled yet?<br></td></tr></table>I had it enabled yesterday and now I have it disabled, I don't really know what its for and don't notice a difference, is enabled or disabled better for stuttering?<div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Asingo" alt="Originally posted by Asingo" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Asingo wrote:</strong><br /><br /><a href="http://forum.asrock.com/RTE_&#116;extarea.asp%3cmode=quote&amp;ID=33086&amp;CACHE=921" rel="nofollow"></a>Is that only problem with your board or what? On my x370 K4 I have fps drops/ stutter ion some older titles (Morrowind, Mafia 2, Operation flashpoint: red river) but I think that is because Windows 10 doesn`t like older games.&nbsp;<br></td></tr></table><div>I've read that about old games on reddit too, but I only tried newers</div></div><div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ket" alt="Originally posted by ket" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ket wrote:</strong><br /><br />Try disabling SMT. Not all applications (games included) will benefit from SMT, in the applications you are getting random stutters chances are it could be SMT related, you might have a memory kit that is iffy, or it might be a simple case of a bad graphics driver causing micro-stutter so in bullet fashion heres some things you can try;<br><br>1. Try disabling SMT in the UEFI<br>2. Try a older / newer graphics driver known to run nicely with the games you are playing.<br>3. Try the latest AMD chipset drivers&nbsp;<a href="http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset%3cos=Windows%2010%20-%2064" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CLICKY</a>&nbsp;(Win10)<br>4. Get the latest audio drivers. Assuming you are using the onboard Realtek codec;&nbsp;<a href="http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/SOUND-CARD/REALTEK/Realtek-High-Definiti&#111;n-Audio-Driver-6-0-1-8210-for-Windows-10.shtml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CLICKY</a>&nbsp;(Win10)<br>5. Check to make sure your GTX1080 isn't throttling.<br>6. Check to make sure you have the RAM installed in the correct DIMM banks (A1+B1 or A2+B2 for Dual Channel, Single Rank memory, or A2+B2 for Dual Channel Dual Rank memory)<br>7. Make sure all the games are patched to their latest version.<br>8. Download and run HCI memtest, opening enough instances to fully utilise your RAM. Leave it running for at least 2 hours and see if it reports any memory errors.<br><br>Following those steps, we should be able to quickly get to the bottom of your stuttering problems<br></td></tr></table></div><div>1. Tried disabling SMT long time ago but didn't seems like removed stutter, Ill try disabling it when I get big stuttering again.</div><div>2. Yeah already tried but don't know if they helped as its pure random when I have stuttering, didn't tried a lot because newer games like ME:A gave me drivers warning of being too old, will try again. But already tried using DDU and reinstalling Windows(10).</div><div>3. Yeah I got them, tried both ryzen balanced plan and high performance mode but doesn't seems to make a &nbsp;difference.</div><div>4. atm got installed the latest realtek from asrock website&nbsp;</div><div>5. Doesn't seem like that, fans are never more than 70% and temperature max. i've saw its 73º.(My gpu is the msi gaming gtx 1080).</div><div>6. Yeah i have them running on dual channel on A2+B2, my mems are single rank.</div><div>7. Yeah they're updated.</div><div>8. Yup used them, when my mems aren't stable it gives me instant error first minute, like when I put less than 1.40V. Next time I got stuttering Ill leave it running for hours.</div><div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by chainsaw" alt="Originally posted by chainsaw" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>chainsaw wrote:</strong><br /><br />My GTX 1080's are founder Editions, because the nvidia driver will only let the fans go to 55% i get stuttering also./ its because the core clocks are fluctuating like crazy. you can check if this is your problem using GPU-z and correct the problem with MSI Afterburner to setup a custom Fan profile. hope it helps. some games are just a mess and cant be helped. SMT can cause some stuttering also mixing different refresh rate screens like 144 and 60 causes stuttering for me. Sli does also in some games</td></tr></table></div><div>Mine is the MSI Gaming X so that shouldn't be a problem as fans (I guess) should go up when needed, still didn't saw them more than fans 70% and gpu temp 73º. My monitor is 60 hz and 72 hz when I enable freesync, but it doesn't makes a difference when gaming I still have the stuttering 60 hz or 72 hz freesync or not.(even if it doesn't works with a nvidia card, If I enable it I can up my monitor to 72hz)</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5675">chainsaw</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Jul 2017 at 10:15pm<br /><br />My GTX 1080's are founder Editions, because the nvidia driver will only let the fans go to 55% i get stuttering also./ its because the core clocks are fluctuating like crazy. you can check if this is your problem using GPU-z and correct the problem with MSI Afterburner to setup a custom Fan profile. hope it helps. some games are just a mess and cant be helped. SMT can cause some stuttering also mixing different refresh rate screens like 144 and 60 causes stuttering for me. Sli does also in some games<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by chainsaw - 18 Jul 2017 at 10:21pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6274">ket</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Jul 2017 at 8:58pm<br /><br />Try disabling SMT. Not all applications (games included) will benefit from SMT, in the applications you are getting random stutters chances are it could be SMT related, you might have a memory kit that is iffy, or it might be a simple case of a bad graphics driver causing micro-stutter so in bullet fashion heres some things you can try;<br><br>1. Try disabling SMT in the UEFI<br>2. Try a older / newer graphics driver known to run nicely with the games you are playing.<br>3. Try the latest AMD chipset drivers <a href="http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset%3cos=Windows%2010%20-%2064" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CLICKY</a> (Win10)<br>4. Get the latest audio drivers. Assuming you are using the onboard Realtek codec; <a href="http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/SOUND-CARD/REALTEK/Realtek-High-Definiti&#111;n-Audio-Driver-6-0-1-8210-for-Windows-10.shtml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CLICKY</a> (Win10)<br>5. Check to make sure your GTX1080 isn't throttling.<br>6. Check to make sure you have the RAM installed in the correct DIMM banks (A1+B1 or A2+B2 for Dual Channel, Single Rank memory, or A2+B2 for Dual Channel Dual Rank memory)<br>7. Make sure all the games are patched to their latest version.<br>8. Download and run HCI memtest, opening enough instances to fully utilise your RAM. Leave it running for at least 2 hours and see if it reports any memory errors.<br><br>Following those steps, we should be able to quickly get to the bottom of your stuttering problems<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by ket - 18 Jul 2017 at 9:01pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6188">Asingo</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Jul 2017 at 5:38pm<br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>Is that only problem with your board or what? On my x370 K4 I have fps drops/ stutter ion some older titles (Morrowind, Mafia 2, Operation flashpoint: red river) but I think that is because Windows 10 doesn`t like older games. <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=423">wardog</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Jul 2017 at 4:57pm<br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>Do you have mem training Enabled yet?<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5280">Trender</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 5615<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Jul 2017 at 7:40am<br /><br />Jesus omfg im tired of this problem I don't know what can be but I just tried 3466 with 16 latencys and I don't have stuttering now And I literally had stutter with those settings hours before !&nbsp;<div>Only thing Im sure now it must be RAM thing related because each time I change the ram settings the stuttering either is worse with 1 second stutter or it just dissapear its just pure random All I can think of this is some auto setting sometimes being good and other times bad&nbsp;</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Trender - 18 Jul 2017 at 7:52am</span>]]>
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