ASRock Forums : question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd https://forum.asrock.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 03 May 2026 19:15:46 +0000 Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:29:21 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://forum.asrock.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6044 <![CDATA[ASRock Forums]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums_black.png https://forum.asrock.com/ <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : sirtoby1337 wrote:Well i just...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=36009&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#36009 Author: wardog
Subject: 6044
Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 9:29am

Originally posted by sirtoby1337 sirtoby1337 wrote:

Well i just reinstalled w10 and secure erased the SSD with magician and yeah my SSDs are back to 100% performance.

I guess i hoped i didnt have to do it, but oh well its fixed now :D so thanks everyone for helping out.

Time to download all the games again :D but with 350mbit it wont take long haha.


Glad to hear.

Yea. Intel to AMD and vice versa , a fresh OS install.


Again, it's work, sure. But you've done what is needed/req'd.

Enjoy
]]> Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:29:21 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=36009&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#36009 <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : wardog wrote: ............But...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=36006&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#36006 Author: sirtoby1337
Subject: 6044
Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 7:30am

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by sirtoby1337No its not a fresh install, <br /><br />............<br /><br />But do u think reinstalling W10 can solve this?, bcus everything worked just fine with my i7 4790k / gigabyte gaming 5 z97n, and wud suck if that doesnt solve it either, so wud rather try everything out that can maybe fix it before i try that.   <img src=smileys/smiley1.gif border=0 align=middle /></td></tr></table><br /><br />Oh hell yea. You just moved an old OS tuned for Intel onto an AMD system. It's 99.99% req'd to do.<br /><br /><br />Copy the data off one of the 850EVO to a spare HDD/SSD and install a fresh Windows.<br /><br />https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10<br /><br />Use the above link to grab the media creation tool, put an 8GB of larger USB stick in, start the tool, and let it make a bootable 10 installation USB stick.<br /><br />That way you have the latest 10 release. I did this last night and after the install Windows Update took all of 5 mins.<br /><br /><br />Also, install the latest 17.30 chipset drivers from AMD immediately after the OS is installed:<br />http://support.amd.com/en-us/download<br /><br /><span id=DeltaPlaceHolderMain><div =supItem><div =grouper item medium>AMD Chipset, AHCI, USB 3.0 and RAID Drivers</div><ul =dfwp-list><li><div =item>Windows 10??7 (<a href=http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset%3cos=Windows+10+-+32 target=_blank rel=nofollow>32-bit</a> | <br />            <a href=http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset%3cos=Windows+10+-+64 target=_blank rel=nofollow>64-bit</a>?�​�ï¿??�​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​�ï¿?/div></li></ul><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p></div></span>[/QUOTE sirtoby1337No its not a fresh install,

............

But do u think reinstalling W10 can solve this?, bcus everything worked just fine with my i7 4790k / gigabyte gaming 5 z97n, and wud suck if that doesnt solve it either, so wud rather try everything out that can maybe fix it before i try that.   


Oh hell yea. You just moved an old OS tuned for Intel onto an AMD system. It's 99.99% req'd to do.


Copy the data off one of the 850EVO to a spare HDD/SSD and install a fresh Windows.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

Use the above link to grab the media creation tool, put an 8GB of larger USB stick in, start the tool, and let it make a bootable 10 installation USB stick.

That way you have the latest 10 release. I did this last night and after the install Windows Update took all of 5 mins.


Also, install the latest 17.30 chipset drivers from AMD immediately after the OS is installed:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

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    • </span>[/QUOTE wrote:



    Well i just reinstalled w10 and secure erased the SSD with magician and yeah my SSDs are back to 100% performance.

    I guess i hoped i didnt have to do it, but oh well its fixed now :D so thanks everyone for helping out.

    Time to download all the games again :D but with 350mbit it wont take long haha.


    Well i just reinstalled w10 and secure erased the SSD with magician and yeah my SSDs are back to 100% performance.

    I guess i hoped i didnt have to do it, but oh well its fixed now :D so thanks everyone for helping out.

    Time to download all the games again :D but with 350mbit it wont take long haha. ]]>     Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:30:19 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=36006&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#36006     <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : ............But do u think reinstalling...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35998&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35998 Author: wardog
    Subject: 6044
    Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 5:52am

    Originally posted by sirtoby1337No its not a fresh install, <br><br>............<br><br>But do u think reinstalling W10 can solve this?, bcus everything worked just fine with my i7 4790k / gigabyte gaming 5 z97n, and wud suck if that doesnt solve it either, so wud rather try everything out that can maybe fix it before i try that.   <img src=smileys/smiley1.gif border=0 align=middle />[/QUOTE sirtoby1337No its not a fresh install,

    ............

    But do u think reinstalling W10 can solve this?, bcus everything worked just fine with my i7 4790k / gigabyte gaming 5 z97n, and wud suck if that doesnt solve it either, so wud rather try everything out that can maybe fix it before i try that.   [/QUOTE wrote:



    Oh hell yea. You just moved an old OS tuned for Intel onto an AMD system. It's 99.99% req'd to do.


    Copy the data off one of the 850EVO to a spare HDD/SSD and install a fresh Windows.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

    Use the above link to grab the media creation tool, put an 8GB of larger USB stick in, start the tool, and let it make


    Oh hell yea. You just moved an old OS tuned for Intel onto an AMD system. It's 99.99% req'd to do.


    Copy the data off one of the 850EVO to a spare HDD/SSD and install a fresh Windows.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

    Use the above link to grab the media creation tool, put an 8GB of larger USB stick in, start the tool, and let it make a bootable 10 installation USB stick.

    That way you have the latest 10 release. I did this last night and after the install Windows Update took all of 5 mins.


    Also, install the latest 17.30 chipset drivers from AMD immediately after the OS is installed:
    http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

    AMD Chipset, AHCI, USB 3.0 and RAID Drivers






    Edited by wardog - 14 Sep 2017 at 9:32am    ]]>     Thu, 14 Sep 2017 05:52:30 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35998&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35998     <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : wardog wrote: sirtoby1337...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35996&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35996 Author: sirtoby1337
    Subject: 6044
    Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 5:34am

    Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

    [URL=][/URL]
    Originally posted by sirtoby1337 sirtoby1337 wrote:

    Guess nobody knows or got any other ideas how to fix this :s


    Is this with a fresh OS install with only the 850 EVO connected?

    How "full' is this 850 EVO?



    Too, IOPS, as a benchmark, isn't necessarily something to concern yourself with. You'll never realize that performance metric on a desktop machine. ie: you'll never max IOPS on a desktop, so, IMO, it's a waste of time. IMO.

    Transfer rates/throughput. That is what a desktop user should be looking.



    No its not a fresh install, and they got around 150gb left each and both are 850 evo, and did try with just one on and same thing there, and its not just the IOPS that dropped, but i lost around 130mb on the 4k Q32T1 test in crystaldiskmark.

    But do u think reinstalling W10 can solve this?, bcus everything worked just fine with my i7 4790k / gigabyte gaming 5 z97n, and wud suck if that doesnt solve it either, so wud rather try everything out that can maybe fix it before i try that.   ]]>     Thu, 14 Sep 2017 05:34:50 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35996&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35996     <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : sirtoby1337 wrote:Guess nobody...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35985&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35985 Author: wardog
    Subject: 6044
    Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 4:26am

    Originally posted by sirtoby1337 sirtoby1337 wrote:

    Guess nobody knows or got any other ideas how to fix this :s


    Is this with a fresh OS install with only the 850 EVO connected?

    How "full' is this 850 EVO?



    Too, IOPS, as a benchmark, isn't necessarily something to concern yourself with. You'll never realize that performance metric on a desktop machine. ie: you'll never max IOPS on a desktop, so, IMO, it's a waste of time. IMO.

    Transfer rates/throughput. That is what a desktop user should be looking.


    Edited by wardog - 14 Sep 2017 at 4:26am    ]]>     Thu, 14 Sep 2017 04:26:16 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35985&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35985     <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : Guess nobody knows or got any...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35981&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35981 Author: sirtoby1337
    Subject: 6044
    Posted: 14 Sep 2017 at 4:08am

    Guess nobody knows or got any other ideas how to fix this :s ]]>     Thu, 14 Sep 2017 04:08:51 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35981&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35981     <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : sirtoby1337, thanks for the RAPID...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35785&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35785 Author: MisterJ
    Subject: 6044
    Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 11:41pm

    sirtoby1337, thanks for the RAPID experiment.  The research I have done indicates you probably should not use it regularly.  It is not even an option for my SSD.  Datonyb is your best guide for sorting drivers for your drive.  Good luck and enjoy, John.
    ]]>     Mon, 11 Sep 2017 23:41:00 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35785&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35785     <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : datonyb wrote:heres another...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35779&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35779 Author: sirtoby1337
    Subject: 6044
    Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 10:00pm

    [URL=][/URL][URL=][/URL]
    Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

    [URL=][/URL]heres another thought

    did you manually check in device manager you have an actual AMD sata driver listed ?

    the chipset driver dosnt install this automatically

    you have to click each sata generic driver and try to update it manually by pointing it to the amd driver folder

    one of your two or three sata drivers will update to amd then


    I manually updated one of the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers in device manager with the AMD chipset driver and then the other one i kinda forced to use the AMD chipset driver too since it kept using the microsoft one.

    And it only improved the performance by 50% but not stable it go up and down... sometimes 55k and other times 75k.

    The driver version is 1.2.1.402 and there is a 1.3.1.277 but i think thats for server or something but it makes performance worse.

    Saw on another topic that 7901 is the x370 chipset and 43B5 is the CPU.


    Edited by sirtoby1337 - 11 Sep 2017 at 10:33pm    ]]>     Mon, 11 Sep 2017 22:00:29 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35779&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35779     <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : heres another thought did you...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35777&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35777 Author: datonyb
    Subject: 6044
    Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 9:27pm

    heres another thought

    did you manually check in device manager you have an actual AMD sata driver listed ?

    the chipset driver dosnt install this automatically

    you have to click each sata generic driver and try to update it manually by pointing it to the amd driver folder

    one of your two or three sata drivers will update to amd then
    ]]>     Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:27:49 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35777&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35777     <![CDATA[question about ryzen/am4/mobo/ssd : MisterJ wrote:sirtoby1337,...]]> https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35763&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35763 Author: sirtoby1337
    Subject: 6044
    Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 6:06pm

    [URL=][/URL][URL=][/URL][URL=][/URL]
    Originally posted by MisterJ MisterJ wrote:

    [URL=][/URL]sirtoby1337, queue depth makes a huge difference in IOPS.? I am trying to figure out how to set it, but failing so far.? Other performance tests allow the user to specify queue depth for the test.? Perhaps you should try one.? Have you tried using Rapid Mode in Magician?? If not, please do.? Enjoy, John.


    Enabled RAPID MODE and results are 3600MB read / 2900 write / and IOPS is worse now at around 40-45k again.

    And Magician says this when enabling it too.

    from magician
    "under current system environment, some functions in magician CANNOT be run.
    if multiple iterations of read and write are performed, RAPID mdoe may become inactive due to system internal errors on some of the AMD / AsMedia controller or driver."

    But even tho i managed to get the IOPS up to 75k after forcing the AMD controller driver on both controllers the IOPS is still kinda unstable it jumps around between 45-75k so i pretty much only increased the max IOPS but its not stable there at all.

    Here is a benchmark with crystaldiskmark showing im way off on the 4k Q32T1 read/write

    http://imgur.com/a/WXSvM

    Edited by sirtoby1337 - 11 Sep 2017 at 7:04pm    ]]>     Mon, 11 Sep 2017 18:06:29 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6044&PID=35763&title=question-about-ryzen-am4-mobo-ssd#35763