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   <title><![CDATA[AB350 Pro4/Ryzen 5 1600 No Post : I bet @smithrock is having fun...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6703">zlobster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 1:33am<br /><br />I bet @smithrock is having fun reading these. <img src="https://forum.asrock.com/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" /><br><br>Being long-time PC/whatnot builder myself, I can only support @Spectre73 here. You can never go wrong with a decent mobo, if you have the cash, hands down! Heck, if you're switching boards next time you upgrade, you old one will hold a better leftover value than some $50 junk.<br><br>@datonyb if you allow me an analogy here - imagine you're to build your own house. You have a hefty sum of cash, so that's not the issue. Will you lay down a shoddy foundation the size of a chicken coop, just because you don't need more at the moment? Or you'll put a solid concrete en large, even though some of the rooms will be not used at the moment?<br><br>There a lot of truths written here. I hope we helped OP with his decision.<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[AB350 Pro4/Ryzen 5 1600 No Post :   datonyb wrote:you two should...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5901">Spectre73</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 1:22am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by datonyb" alt="Originally posted by datonyb" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>datonyb wrote:</strong><br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>you two should work for sales dept.<br>sensible options for stated needs seem non-important to you both<br>secondly does every post from you have to declare hatred for asrock ?<br>you seem to have issues with your system not everyone does <br>my taichi has been good ,to be fair i dont find the bios any trouble myself but i cant help wonder why someone spends so much time sat here moaning when they could follow thier own advice and send the taichi back and go buy the so aptly named 'HERO' board for themselves<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>You are very keen on insulting other posters when they do not share your opinion.</div><div><br></div><div>The taichi is better built than the C6H but UEFI support is lacking. In no way did I trash the taichi I would just enjoy faster updates of the firmware. But of course in your black and white view such a diverse viewpoint is out of the question.</div><div><br></div><div>Have a nice day.</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Spectre73 - 15 Jan 2018 at 1:45am</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[AB350 Pro4/Ryzen 5 1600 No Post :   datonyb wrote:  Spectre73...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5901">Spectre73</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 1:19am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by datonyb" alt="Originally posted by datonyb" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>datonyb wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Spectre73" alt="Originally posted by Spectre73" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Spectre73 wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by datonyb" alt="Originally posted by datonyb" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>datonyb wrote:</strong><br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>a crosshair 6 recommended<br><br>to run a r1600 and gtx 460 ????????????<br><br>well that a fantastic way to waste around $125<br>i really must say this recommendation tops the list for you even<br><br>what the guy needs is a simple b350 board and you send him to such a feature rich high end overclockers board direction<br><br>for a stock ryzen easy to build option that has about the widest ram support the answer is an msi tomahawk at below $100<br><br>the overclockers forum for the crosshair 6 is packed with people who returned the board for being too complex for the intended needs (including the bios revisions and issues )<br></td></tr></table><br><br><div><br></div><div>I never would skimp on the mainboard, no matter the intended use case. The mb is the foundation of the PC and is - besides the PSU - the single most important component.</div><div><br></div><div>Further, especially with Zen+ and Zen2 on the horizon, the C6H (or taichi) is not even overbuilt but maybe a necessity for the (maybe) increased demands of the newer CPUs.</div><div><br></div><div>I am running a Taichi together with a 1600x. So what? Do you imply that is overkill? I like to be on the safe side and with the VRM circuits overbuilt i am confident, that I can throw the next generations at this board, no matter what.</div><div>If my system is unstable, I can be sure that it has to do with settings or bad UEFI implementation, but not the build quality of the mb.</div><div><br></div><div>Your mileage may vary. To each their own.</div><div><br></div></td></tr></table><br>i also run a taichi<br><br>but even though ive been accused of not reading the entire thread (how strange people thing there are mindreaders)<br>the guy stated he is not intrested in overclocking and runs a very basic old gpu <br>why on earth does he need a high end board?<br>ryzen advancements are also stated to be lower tdp so your arguement of OUR over engineered vrm dosnt cut any water with this guys specific needs either the future for him looks to be firmily set for 2600-3600 ryzen models ,you think amd will increase these models above 65w tdp ?<br>judging on his gpu age and wish to reuse that i suspect the op will stick with the r1600 longer than any need for a higher end board<br><div><br></div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Everytime I choosed a low-mid tier board I regretted it in the long run and I am building PC's since around 1990 (my user name may be a hint&nbsp;<img src="https://forum.asrock.com/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0" alt="T&#111;ngue" title="T&#111;ngue" />).</div><div>While I agree that the next generation will may be have a lower TDP my points still stand. Top of the line boards receive the most updates and optimizations (sadly ASRock is not on top of their game, but generally that is true).</div><div><br></div><div>Even if the OP never intends to upgrade the CPU or the GPU I would not settle with a mid-low end board. As I said, others (like you) may have a different view point. I would say, let the OP decide with the arguments given.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5435">datonyb</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 1:16am<br /><br />anyway im a tad too busy to continue to debate these insane suggestions for an entry level requirement with you both,the op can make his own mind up<br>you two can continue to give dubious advice or not <br>enjoy your day <br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[AB350 Pro4/Ryzen 5 1600 No Post : you two should work for sales...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5435">datonyb</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 1:13am<br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>you two should work for sales dept.<br>sensible options for stated needs seem non-important to you both<br>secondly does every post from you have to declare hatred for asrock ?<br>you seem to have issues with your system not everyone does <br>my taichi has been good ,to be fair i dont find the bios any trouble myself but i cant help wonder why someone spends so much time sat here moaning when they could follow thier own advice and send the taichi back and go buy the so aptly named 'HERO' board for themselves<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5901">Spectre73</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 1:09am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by datonyb" alt="Originally posted by datonyb" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>datonyb wrote:</strong><br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>and someone needed to explain to the poor guy that spending out on a ch6 is an insane thing to do for his needs<br>a ch6 is not a entry board <br>a ch6 is not a novice board<br>how can that even be an option ?<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Where is the difficulty in enabling XMP and let the board do it's thing? The C6H is at a point, where there is no user intervention needed to run it stable.</div><div><br></div><div>The many complaints you read at overclock.net are because it is the single most bought Ryzen board out there. And that is a good thing because bugs will be ironed out faster.</div><div><br></div><div>The number of complaints is related to the huge volume of boards out there.</div><div>Of course, there are other good boards out there, but the C6H is an excellent chioce, even for a so called low end system.</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Spectre73 - 15 Jan 2018 at 1:44am</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[AB350 Pro4/Ryzen 5 1600 No Post : @Spectre73 stated very valid points...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=6703">zlobster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 1:08am<br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><br>@Spectre73 stated very valid points above. <br><br><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by datonyb" alt="Originally posted by datonyb" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>datonyb wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br>a ch6 is not a entry board <br>a ch6 is not a novice board<br>how can that even be an option ?<br></td></tr></table><br><br>Not being an entry board doesn't mean it requires a Ph.D. in electrical engineering to use it.<br><br>As for a novice board, you forget that's not ASRock. Their UEFI are working fine w/ auto settings, unlike ASRock's. I can think of a few fellows here that can testify to that. If still in doubt, check Google, YouTube.<br><br>EDIT: you can also compare both companies' user manuals for their products. It's an interesting read and I my opinion it speaks a lot on its own.<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by zlobster - 15 Jan 2018 at 1:11am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5435">datonyb</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 1:06am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Spectre73" alt="Originally posted by Spectre73" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Spectre73 wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by datonyb" alt="Originally posted by datonyb" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>datonyb wrote:</strong><br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>a crosshair 6 recommended<br><br>to run a r1600 and gtx 460 ????????????<br><br>well that a fantastic way to waste around $125<br>i really must say this recommendation tops the list for you even<br><br>what the guy needs is a simple b350 board and you send him to such a feature rich high end overclockers board direction<br><br>for a stock ryzen easy to build option that has about the widest ram support the answer is an msi tomahawk at below $100<br><br>the overclockers forum for the crosshair 6 is packed with people who returned the board for being too complex for the intended needs (including the bios revisions and issues )<br></td></tr></table><br><br><div><br></div><div>I never would skimp on the mainboard, no matter the intended use case. The mb is the foundation of the PC and is - besides the PSU - the single most important component.</div><div><br></div><div>Further, especially with Zen+ and Zen2 on the horizon, the C6H (or taichi) is not even overbuilt but maybe a necessity for the (maybe) increased demands of the newer CPUs.</div><div><br></div><div>I am running a Taichi together with a 1600x. So what? Do you imply that is overkill? I like to be on the safe side and with the VRM circuits overbuilt i am confident, that I can throw the next generations at this board, no matter what.</div><div>If my system is unstable, I can be sure that it has to do with settings or bad UEFI implementation, but not the build quality of the mb.</div><div><br></div><div>Your mileage may vary. To each their own.</div><div><br></div></td></tr></table><br>i also run a taichi<br><br>but even though ive been accused of not reading the entire thread (how strange people thing there are mindreaders)<br>the guy stated he is not intrested in overclocking and runs a very basic old gpu <br>why on earth does he need a high end board?<br>ryzen advancements are also stated to be lower tdp so your arguement of OUR over engineered vrm dosnt cut any water with this guys specific needs either the future for him looks to be firmily set for 2600-3600 ryzen models ,you think amd will increase these models above 65w tdp ?<br>judging on his gpu age and wish to reuse that i suspect the op will stick with the r1600 longer than any need for a higher end board<br><div><br></div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by datonyb - 15 Jan 2018 at 1:07am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5435">datonyb</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 1:01am<br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>and someone needed to explain to the poor guy that spending out on a ch6 is an insane thing to do for his needs<br>a ch6 is not a entry board <br>a ch6 is not a novice board<br>how can that even be an option ?<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=5901">Spectre73</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7283<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 Jan 2018 at 12:58am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by datonyb" alt="Originally posted by datonyb" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>datonyb wrote:</strong><br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>a crosshair 6 recommended<br><br>to run a r1600 and gtx 460 ????????????<br><br>well that a fantastic way to waste around $125<br>i really must say this recommendation tops the list for you even<br><br>what the guy needs is a simple b350 board and you send him to such a feature rich high end overclockers board direction<br><br>for a stock ryzen easy to build option that has about the widest ram support the answer is an msi tomahawk at below $100<br><br>the overclockers forum for the crosshair 6 is packed with people who returned the board for being too complex for the intended needs (including the bios revisions and issues )<br></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I never would skimp on the mainboard, no matter the intended use case. The mb is the foundation of the PC and is - besides the PSU - the single most important component.</div><div><br></div><div>Further, especially with Zen+ and Zen2 on the horizon, the C6H (or taichi) is not even overbuilt but maybe a necessity for the (maybe) increased demands of the newer CPUs.</div><div><br></div><div>I am running a Taichi together with a 1600x. So what? Do you imply that is overkill? I like to be on the safe side and with the VRM circuits overbuilt i am confident, that I can throw the next generations at this board, no matter what.</div><div>If my system is unstable, I can be sure that it has to do with settings or bad UEFI implementation, but not the build quality of the mb.</div><div><br></div><div>Your mileage may vary. To each their own.</div><div><br></div>]]>
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