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   <title><![CDATA[Spectre microcode update for Windows user :   Grom0X wrote:New bios for Intel...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=3946">soulstealer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Jan 2018 at 8:24am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Grom0X" alt="Originally posted by Grom0X" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Grom0X wrote:</strong><br /><br /><b style="color: rgb65, 115, 148; text-decorati&#111;n-line: underline; outline: 0px; font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; : rgb255, 255, 255;"><a href="http:///www.asrock.com/Microsite/SA00088/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">New bios for Intel SA-0008 security update</a></b></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>there is no new bios for example for h170 fatality yet ...</div><div><br></div><div>and btw the current patches are know to cause serious issues, like reboots etc</div><div><br></div><div>it was said they are working on a beta patch until next wednesday</div><div><br></div><div>i wont patch my system with a faulty cpu bios yet</div><div><br></div><div>https://newsroom.intel.com/news/firmware-updates-and-initial-performance-data-for-data-center-systems/</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by soulstealer - 20 Jan 2018 at 8:27am</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Spectre microcode update for Windows user : New bios for Intel SA-0008 security...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8105">Grom0X</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 Jan 2018 at 5:25am<br /><br /><b style="color: rgb65, 115, 148; text-decorati&#111;n-line: underline; outline: 0px; font-family: &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; : rgb255, 255, 255;"><a href="http:///www.asrock.com/Microsite/SA00088/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">New bios for Intel SA-0008 security update</a></b>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Spectre microcode update for Windows user : Thanks for the link, very interesting...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8330">singinanarchist</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jan 2018 at 9:55pm<br /><br /><div>Thanks for the link, very interesting discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>Seems logical, I thought Linux and Windows were doing the same thing with the code but apparently not.</div><div><br></div><div>I tested the&nbsp;SpeculationControl script and get the same negative result for&nbsp;BTIWindowsSupportEnabled.</div><div><br></div><div>Then the solution is to patch the BIOS with the microcode.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8333">aldamon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jan 2018 at 9:26pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by singinanarchist" alt="Originally posted by singinanarchist" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>singinanarchist wrote:</strong><br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Grom0X" alt="Originally posted by Grom0X" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Grom0X wrote:</strong><br /><br />FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>What's your problem ???<br>&nbsp;<div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Quote" alt="Quote" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <span style=": rgb43, 43, 43;">We need new BIOS from AsRock for real FIX, end of story!</span></td></tr></table></div></div><div><br></div><div>Sure. But if it never happens or happens in 6 months, don't you want a solution ? I do.</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>So I was discussing your fix over at HardForum and atarione found this post over at Bleepingcomputer. Your fix appears to fool InSpectre but it isn't really doing anything:</div><div><br></div><div>https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/intel-releases-linux-cpu-microcodes-to-fix-meltdown-and-spectre-bugs/</div><div><br></div><div><div ="cz-newz-comment-title-wrapp"="" style="-sizing: border-; display: inline-block; width: 643.828px; border-bottom: 1px solid rgb220, 220, 220; padding: 13px 0px; color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><div ="cz-newz-title-left-area"="" style="-sizing: border-; display: inline-block; : left; width: 321.906px; vertical-align: top;"><h6 style="-sizing: border-; line-height: 16px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 15px; font-size: 16px;"><a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/u/985239/lc&#111;nstantin/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">LConstantin</a>&nbsp;<span style="-sizing: border-; display: inline-block; color: rgb153, 153, 153; font-size: 14px; font-weight: 400;">- 6 days ago</span></h6></div><div ="cz-newz-title-right-area"="" style="-sizing: border-; display: inline-block; : left; width: 321.906px; vertical-align: top; text-align: right;"><ul style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 14px 0px 0px; padding: 0px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; display: inline-block; margin: 0px 0px 0px 22px;"><a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/intel-releases-linux-cpu-microcodes-to-fix-meltdown-and-spectre-bugs/#" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">&nbsp;</a></li>&nbsp;<li style="-sizing: border-; display: inline-block; margin: 0px 0px 0px 22px;"><a href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/intel-releases-linux-cpu-microcodes-to-fix-meltdown-and-spectre-bugs/#cid7710" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">&nbsp;</a></li></ul></div></div><span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; : rgb245, 245, 245;"></span><p id="comment__7710" itemprop="commentText" style="-sizing: border-; margin: 15px 0px; font-size: 18px; color: rgb38, 48, 52; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; line-height: 1.4em; padding: 0px 15px; word-wrap: break-word;">The VMware Driver option doesn't work because it starts too late in the kernel initialization process (it's a kernel driver). Microcode updates need to be reapplied at every boot, because the CPU doesn't have non-volatile memory. It's normally the BIOS that applies it during boot so by the time the OS starts, the OS will see the new microcode. In this case, the WIndows kernel sees the old microcode before the VMware Driver kicks in and applies it. Because of this it disables its own software-based Spectre mitigation. The VMware driver can be used to test if the microcode update for your CPU contains the Spectre patch, but that's about it. It won't actually be used. The result from Microsoft's Speculation Control Validation PowerShell Script will look like this:<br style="-sizing: border-;">Hardware support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True &lt;-- microcode contains the patch<br style="-sizing: border-;">Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True &lt;-- Software patch present. Windows update installed.<br style="-sizing: border-;">Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is enabled: False &lt;-- Support disabled because the microcode update got applied too late<br style="-sizing: border-;"><br style="-sizing: border-;">and lower:<br style="-sizing: border-;">BTIHardwarePresent : True<br style="-sizing: border-;">BTIWindowsSupportPresent : True<br style="-sizing: border-;">BTIWindowsSupportEnabled : False</p><p id="comment__7710" itemprop="commentText" style="-sizing: border-; margin: 15px 0px; font-size: 18px; color: rgb38, 48, 52; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif; line-height: 1.4em; padding: 0px 15px; word-wrap: break-word;">PowerShell proof:</p><p id="comment__7710" itemprop="commentText" style="margin: 15px 0px; line-height: 1.4em; padding: 0px 15px; word-wrap: break-word;"><b style="font-size: 18px; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, Times, serif;"><a href="http://imgur.com/a/UB6N6" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://imgur.com/a/UB6N6</a></b></p></div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by aldamon - 19 Jan 2018 at 9:29pm</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Spectre microcode update for Windows user :   Grom0X wrote:FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!What&amp;#039;s...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8330">singinanarchist</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jan 2018 at 8:07pm<br /><br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Grom0X" alt="Originally posted by Grom0X" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Grom0X wrote:</strong><br /><br />FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>What's your problem ???<br>&nbsp;<div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Quote" alt="Quote" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <span style=": rgb43, 43, 43;">We need new BIOS from AsRock for real FIX, end of story!</span></td></tr></table></div></div><div><br></div><div>Sure. But if it never happens or happens in 6 months, don't you want a solution ? I do.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8105">Grom0X</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jan 2018 at 6:40am<br /><br />We need new BIOS from AsRock for real FIX, end of story!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8105">Grom0X</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jan 2018 at 6:34am<br /><br />FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Spectre microcode update for Windows user : I carried this out on my X99-WS...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=755">GuruNot</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jan 2018 at 6:28am<br /><br />I carried this out on my X99-WS with i7-5930k .... it updated the microcode from 38 to 3B .<br><br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Spectre microcode update for Windows user : EDIT: Doesn&amp;#039;t actually work.Worked...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8333">aldamon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jan 2018 at 4:42am<br /><br /><div>EDIT: Doesn't actually work.&nbsp;</div><strike><div><strike><br></strike></div>Worked for me with Haswell-E X99. Hopefully Intel continues to patch the older stuff so I can give it a shot with Ivy Bridge HTPC. Thank you so much for posting!</strike><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by aldamon - 19 Jan 2018 at 9:28pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forum.asrock.com/member_profile.asp?PF=8330">singinanarchist</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 7353<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 Jan 2018 at 2:33am<br /><br /><div>Disclaimer: Use at your own risk</div><div><br></div><div>There's no need to wait for asrock to update their bioses. You can update the cpu microcode yourself with "VMware CPU Microcode Update Driver" and Intel Microcode.</div><div><br></div><div>Just follow this guide :&nbsp;<a href="http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/how-to-update-microcode-from-windows.787152/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/how-to-update-microcode-from-windows.787152/</a></div><div><div><br></div><div>Download the latest Intel microde for your processor :&nbsp;<a href="https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27431/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27431/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File</a></div><div><br></div><div>Download&nbsp;VMware CPU Microcode Update Driver :<a href="http://%20labs.vmware.com/flings/vmware-cpu-microcode-update-driver" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">&nbsp;<a href="https://labs.vmware.com/flings/vmware-cpu-microcode-update-driver" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://labs.vmware.com/flings/vmware-cpu-microcode-update-driver</a></a></div><div><br></div><div>You also need the AMD microcode files, the link in the guide is not working. Since they just need to be present but are not used for Intel update, I downloaded these ones from here <a href="https://github.com/OpenELEC/cpu-firmware/tree/master/firmware/amd-ucode" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/OpenELEC/cpu-firmware/tree/master/firmware/amd-ucode</a></div><div><br></div><div><div>You can check your vulnerability status with <a href="http://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm</a></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><img src="https://i.imgur.com/L6Roo1p.png" height="359" width="464" border="0" /></div><div><br></div>]]>
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