https://forum.asrock.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 22 Apr 2026 14:20:57 +0000 Tue, 21 Apr 2026 06:54:29 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 30 https://forum.asrock.com/RSS_topic_feed.asp?FID=15 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums_black.png https://forum.asrock.com/ https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=113255&PID=201231&title=new-member-asrock-barebone-thread#201231 Author: Xaltar
Subject: New Member ASRock Barebone Thread
Posted: 21 Apr 2026 at 6:54am

Welcome to the forums silentcreek! I have made a thread for your mod here.]]> Tue, 21 Apr 2026 06:54:29 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=113255&PID=201231&title=new-member-asrock-barebone-thread#201231 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201106&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201106 Author: Xaltar
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted: 24 Mar 2026 at 4:57pm

That would certainly be nice. It may be worth checking out 3d printing/board fab
sites like PCBWay etc. Quite often there will be ready to go models available for
print for not a lot of money. My brief research into it showed it being cheaper
than many retail cases. I would have needed to make my own 3d model for the project
I had in mind however. The bonus with that is you can pick and choose materials,
including stamped steel/aluminum with some providers and when cost is the issue
plastic is pretty cheap.

I get where you are coming from though, not everyone has the time and patience
to make something themselves rather than simply buy a retail product that does
the job. I have always been a builder/maker, mostly out of necessity because of
availability and cost issues when I was starting out. It's funny how making stuff
has gone from that thing you did because you were broke to being the thing people
do when they have money to burn ]]> Tue, 24 Mar 2026 16:57:56 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201106&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201106 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201105&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201105 Author: QMarc
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted: 24 Mar 2026 at 4:31pm

Actually the X600M-STX page says "This model may not be sold worldwide". And so it is, none of the destributors in my region sell it. Doesn't matter much, one could buy a DeskMini and throw away the case.

But another problem is all Mini-STX enclosures available seem to have the same "max fan height 40mm" restriction.

I also haven't found confirmation that a full-size CPU fan has enough space on the motherboard around the CPU. The X600M-STX doesn't have any fan compatibility notes, the DeskMini only lists two low-profile fans.

A serious Maker certainly can do everything, but there is no option for the normal user whose tool chest only contains a few screwdrivers. For me it's too many hurdles to try, but I hope some Asrock product manager takes note of the wishes of the customers ;-)
]]> Tue, 24 Mar 2026 16:31:15 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201105&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201105 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201084&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201084 Author: Xaltar
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted: 20 Mar 2026 at 8:00pm

Getting a perfect out of the box SFF setup is almost impossible. I see no reason
you couldn't take the board out of your system and install it in a larger enclosure.
There are a lot of project boxes available these days, might be worth looking at.
Best of both worlds. You are not limited to PC cases either, any plastic or even
metal casing large enough to accommodate the board can be modified to work. I have
been contemplating getting a DeskMini board and installing it in an old console
enclosure.

By the way, this is the board, it can be purchased without an enclosure:
https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X600M-STX%20R2.0/index.asp

Edited by Xaltar - 20 Mar 2026 at 8:07pm]]> Fri, 20 Mar 2026 20:00:58 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201084&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201084 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201083&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201083 Author: QMarc
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted: 20 Mar 2026 at 7:19pm

FWIW, I have a 8700G in a DeskMini X600. I bought it because of the better GPU compared to the 8600G, but I think it cannot run unthrottled with the small form factor which limits the cooler and fan size. I think the 8600G is the best fit for the thermal capabilities of the DeskMini.

But I can live with the throttling, much more annoying is the noise generated by the fan. The DeskMini X600 with Noctua NH-L9a-AM5 fan is OK-ish, but if Asrock would sell the "same" board in larger case which allowed to install a full-size "silent" cooler+fan I would buy it immediately. The DeskMeet is not an option for me because it uses ATX power supply and hence has increased idle power consumption. Always-on operation combined with silent power on demand is the key.

I think there are many people trying to do case and cooler-system modding on their mini-PCs to solve these issues. In the dozens of variations on the mini-PC theme you can find on the net there is not one which does what people like me want.
]]> Fri, 20 Mar 2026 19:19:50 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201083&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201083 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201077&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201077 Author: Xaltar
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted: 19 Mar 2026 at 5:49am

Happy to help, let me know how the build goes and feel free to ask questions here
any time

Good luck with the build ]]> Thu, 19 Mar 2026 05:49:35 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201077&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201077 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201076&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201076 Author: Mr.Magnetix
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted: 19 Mar 2026 at 5:26am

Hi Xaltar,

the explanation about whatif's are answered all my brain cycles ??

I'll stick with the 8700G for the x600 system.

the reason that I was thinking about putting a processor with a higher TDP and clock it at TDP 65Watt by getting more performance from the system and lower TDP for the highend CPU's set would also lower the temperature.

but reading your outstanding replies this will give slower performance then the 8700G.

thanks again.
]]> Thu, 19 Mar 2026 05:26:10 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201076&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201076 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201061&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201061 Author: Xaltar
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted: 18 Mar 2026 at 3:30pm

For some clarification, tuning will only get you so far. By the time you underclock
and undervolt say a 9850X3D it will perform worse than a stock 8700g, possibly
worse than the 8600g I recommend. There are only a small handful of CPU coolers
that will even fit in that tiny case, not a single one of them will handle a high
end CPU adequately. Even high end, expensive small form factor CPU coolers can't
work miracles. This is why laptops use completely different CPU architecture and
very low wattage compared to desktop CPUs. Space is everything when it comes
to cooling.

]]> Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:30:32 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201061&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201061 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201060&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201060 Author: Xaltar
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted: 18 Mar 2026 at 3:04pm

I would strongly advise against higher end CPUs on the x600 board (it's the same
in the Jupiter and the Mini). These boards were designed with APUs in mind (8000
series "G"/"GE" models). The idea is to provide a solid all around performer in
a small package.

The x600 boards used in these small form factor barebones systems are not designed
with enough power delivery and VRM cooling for higher end CPUs, you run the risk
of overheating even at 65w power draw. These were never designed to be a replacement
for a full sized desktop. SFF systems are very niche, typically used for TV boxes,
small NAS servers and for portability when a laptop isn't ideal. From all I have
seen over the years ASRock makes some of the best SFF boards and chassis out there
but the form factor itself is always a compromise.

Personally, I would go with an 8600g, maybe an 8700g in the 1l chassis you have.
That is not to say that higher TDP CPUs won't work, they will just be a waste of
money. A higher TDP CPU will throttle down it's frequency and voltage the moment
it gets hot, the motherboard will likewise throttle the CPU the moment it's power
delivery circuitry gets too hot (VRM section).

Even if you were to put a 9850X3D in there and tune it, it would throttle down in
performance almost instantly and end up performing worse than an 8700g in raw
CPU performance regardless of the extra cores and potential there. I have seen
reviews on other SFF models (older x300 models) that show this exact trend. The
same will be true here, there is no way to avoid it with such a small motherboard.
They just are not designed to handle the power requirements of a higher end CPU.

The 8000 series APUs are actually very capable and perform surprisingly well.
Again, for peace of mind I would personally go with an 8600g. It runs cooler
and will not likely be throttled much, if at all by the system. The 8700g will
be a little faster but it's at the upper limit of the board's abilities and potentially
could run into thermal issues that require you to run it at 45w which would make
it run about on par with the 8600g anyway. ]]> Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:04:25 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201060&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201060 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=67240&PID=201059&title=deskmini-x600-random-crashes#201059 Author: Mr.Magnetix
Subject: DeskMini X600 random crashes
Posted: 18 Mar 2026 at 4:25am

Hi Xaltar,

thanks you for your quick response.

ASRock > Jupiter X600 https://share.google/YmBJmcs1TwM7X5fKt

it is the 1ltr box. not the deskmini.

I'm looking for best processor since I bought the system from a friend without cpu,ram,storage.

I was not aware about the 8 core GPU of the 8700G.

is it still the best cpu for this system?.

there are so many flavors to choose from.

is it also possible to clock the 9850X3D on TDP 65Watt.

since I'll need to buy a new cpu which one for this system would any of you recommend?

Thanks.

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