https://forum.asrock.com/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 06 Oct 2026 17:02:38 +0000 Sun, 03 Feb 2019 02:36:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.08 360 https://forum.asrock.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=10770 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_images/web_wiz_forums_black.png https://forum.asrock.com/ https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60484&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60484 Author: xhue
Subject: 10770
Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 2:36am

Yes, I forgot how to divide by 8...

Anyhow, eve top-of-the-line ASUS boards have only 16MB.

It all boils down to what OEMs will do. I for one couldn't care less if support for 3000-series Ryzen means no support for 2000- or 1000- series (due to them being left out to make room).

You can't run 2 CPUs on 1 socket, so why would you care if your BIOS blob can handle 2 or 3 simultaneously?]]> Sun, 03 Feb 2019 02:36:38 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60484&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60484 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60480&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60480 Author: Ray62
Subject: 10770
Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 1:29am

xhue wrote: ASUS are advertising even the B350 boards with 128Mb BIOS chip! Check out their site! Also, every board is advertised with CrashFree BIOS. Something that ASRock lack even on their top AM4 models.

That is not better regarding the size, just 16 MByte too...]]> Sun, 03 Feb 2019 01:29:29 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60480&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60480 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60479&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60479 Author: Ray62
Subject: 10770
Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 1:27am

I have to correct my posting: I meant MegaByte, not Mbit ;-)

Ray62 wrote: My x370 board has a 128 MBit (16 MByte) chip (16384 KBytes), probably a candidate which will not support Ryzen3. The newer boards with x470 mostly are using a 256 MBit (32 MByte) flash for the bios.

]]> Sun, 03 Feb 2019 01:27:49 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60479&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60479 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60324&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60324 Author: xhue
Subject: 10770
Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 7:23pm

ASUS are advertising even the B350 boards with 128Mb BIOS chip! Check out their site!

Also, every board is advertised with CrashFree BIOS. Something that ASRock lack even on their top AM4 models.]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2019 19:23:26 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60324&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60324 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60320&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60320 Author: Aeratiel
Subject: 10770
Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 5:25pm

fnordie wrote: x470 Fatality Gamink K4 has BIOS Size: 16384 KBytes. i just checked myself

well, then looks asrock will figure something out, to get new cpus work on old mb]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:25:20 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60320&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60320 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60319&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60319 Author: fnordie
Subject: 10770
Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 5:21pm

x470 Fatality Gamink K4 has BIOS Size: 16384 KBytes. i just checked myself
]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:21:26 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60319&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60319 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60311&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60311 Author: xhue
Subject: 10770
Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 7:13am

Ray62 wrote: Under Linux, you can use "dmidecode -t bios" to get detailed information for the bios like ROM Size. Under Windows, use HWiNFO64: ->Motherboard->SMBIOS DMI->BIOS and you can see the bios size in KBytes.

Totally forgot about these... Nice job!

On the topic - https://www.anandtech.com/show/12971/amd-bios-limitations-bristol-ridge-dropped-from-certain-motherboards

Even for older mobos there are ways to get new CPUs work on them. We just need to go whine on Reddit and there is a good cahnce AMD and OEM/ODM mat listen! They did for the mobile drivers, so why shouldn't they for the way bigger desktop user base?]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2019 07:13:33 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60311&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60311 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60298&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60298 Author: Aeratiel
Subject: 10770
Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 12:17am

Ray62 wrote: Under Linux, you can use "dmidecode -t bios" to get detailed information for the bios like ROM Size. Under Windows, use HWiNFO64: ->Motherboard->SMBIOS DMI->BIOS and you can see the bios size in KBytes. My x370 board has a 16 MBit chip (16384 KBytes), probably a candidate which will not support Ryzen3. The newer boards with x470 mostly are using a 32 MBit flash for the bios.

same as mine, damn..]]> Mon, 28 Jan 2019 00:17:22 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60298&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60298 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60297&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60297 Author: Ray62
Subject: 10770
Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 11:18pm

Under Linux, you can use "dmidecode -t bios" to get detailed information for the bios like ROM Size.

Under Windows, use HWiNFO64:
->Motherboard->SMBIOS DMI->BIOS and you can see the bios size in KBytes.

My x370 board has a 16 MBit chip (16384 KBytes), probably a candidate which will not support Ryzen3. The newer boards with x470 mostly are using a 32 MBit flash for the bios.
]]> Sun, 27 Jan 2019 23:18:07 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60297&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60297 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60265&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60265 Author: xhue
Subject: 10770
Posted: 25 Jan 2019 at 9:26pm

Totally plausible scenario.

For one, you can take a look at your mobo and try to find the BIOS chip. Then google its part number for details. I doubt any manufacturer will provide you directly with their BIOS chip sizes.

Another thing - I don't think most manufacturers will support AM4 until 2020. Even if the chip itself could be capable of the new binaries, chance is that most boards will drop support for Ryzen 3 and leter.]]> Fri, 25 Jan 2019 21:26:27 +0000 https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10770&PID=60265&title=x370-gaming-x-how-much-memory-my-bios-chip-have#60265