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    Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 8:50pm
Yeah it's pretty poor from G.Skill, I wouldn't have expected such a shady bait & switch from them. I've been using their ram for decades now.

And yeah definitely possible it's not necessarily the same fault as the OP and subsequent posters and is just because it's different dies.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Xaltar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 7:51pm
@bobau The 2 kits having different memory chips on them could well be the problem
in your case. Unfortunately this happens often with RAM manufacturers and is why
tech sites and gurus always recommend matched kits or at least consecutive serial
numbers. When the RAM manufacturer runs out of a given RAM die they will replace
their stock with whatever fits the data sheet for the best price and not bother
changing the RAM model and in most cases don't even bother to add a revision number.

I have even run into "matched" kits that have samsung on one module and hynix on
the other, clearly one was made before the switch and one after. This was back
in the days of DDR 400 however and I have not seen the issue pop up since (I
was not alone and there were complaints).

IMO they should at the very least add a "rev 1.0" then "rev 1.1" etc every time
they change RAM dies out maybe even as far as "rev 2.0" if the dies come from
another vendor entirely.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bobau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 7:30pm
I've got the exact same problem.

I bought a 2nd kit of 2x16gb G.Skill 3600mhz C17 ram.

Those 2 bios settings above didn't help. Updating to latest bios didn't help. Updated the INF for good measure. Nothing.

Even winding back to 3000mhz C15 didn't help as it became extremely unstable. It only worked at the default non-XMP speed. Manual setting to the correct timings didn't help either.

My first guess is that either the board just doesn't work with 4 sticks of ram at high speeds

The second guess, I scanned the sticks with Thaphoon Burner and found that the 2nd set of sticks are Hynix ram. The originals I bought because they were Samsung B-Die, but apparently G.Skill changed that ram over last year.

Of course, that second guess wouldn't explain it for people who've bought 4 sticks of the ram at the same time, where they're almost certainly on the same ram module type.
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I am having the absolute same issue - running the absolute same system Z390 Taichi Ultimate, with 64GB Ram Trident, and i9900K.

Unfortunately switching off those 2 settings did not help. Have you done anything else? Perhaps updating BIOS, I still have not updated it, somewhat reluctant to do it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote batyrenko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 9:44pm
I actually didn't replace it. I ordered ASUS but at the last moment I found those 2 options on my ASRock and it worked for me. I sent back ASUS.
Now I use my ASRock Taichi Ultimate Z390 with all 4 slots, 64 Gb of memory on 3200Ghz (and higher) without any issues. You can see it on the screenshot on the top.

Have you tried to update BIOS? Maybe it could help?
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I saw on reddit that you replaced the board at some point, did those changes fix the original slot 3 issue or only fix the timing issue on the replacement board?
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Originally posted by batyrenko batyrenko wrote:

Hello Bro!
I found the solution and it took me a while!
Happy to share with you!

Disable 2 options:
- ASRock Timing optimization
- Realtime Memory Timing

Everything works perfect after that!





I tried this earlier but still have the 2133mhz issue if slot 3 as you pictured has a DIMM in it
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote batyrenko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 10:28am
One more suggest: if you are using Windows OS always install INF Drivers for the motherboard. It extremely increases the speed of the system.

Latest INF driver from the oficial site:
- INF driver ver:10.1.17968.8131_Public (2019/5/13)

https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Z390%20Taichi%20Ultimate/index.asp#Download
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote batyrenko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 10:23am
Hello Bro!
I found the solution and it took me a while!
Happy to share with you!

Disable 2 options:
- ASRock Timing optimization
- Realtime Memory Timing

Everything works perfect after that!



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jurai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 10:04am
Sorry to necro, but I am now having this exact same issue on a Z390 Taichi (non-ultimate). I picked up an additional 2x16GB of DDR4-3000, booted up, and saw all 4 sticks had dropped down to 2133mhz. Tested same as OP and found that and any stick I put into DDR4_B1 causes the motherboard to panic at boot a few times, eventually getting into bios which shows the ram has underclocked itself down to 2133mhz (same slot as OP). Did anyone ever find a solution to this other than board replacement? Frustrating as I am out of the newegg RMA period at this point and will likely have to wait for ASRock to respond to assist, hopefully it is a known issue at this point.

Cheers
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