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    Posted: 14 May 2019 at 9:44am
Hello :)

I Own this memory : 2x8Go DDR4 Corsair RGB 3000Mhz C15

https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00235442.html

On my first computer (Asus prime X370-pro + ryzen 5 1600) the mmemory works well (or near... 3000Mhz but automatically at CAS16, CAS15 don't works..) but on my second computer (asrock B450M Steel Legend + ryzen 3 1200) the memory won't go further than 2133mhz..

Do you think further bios releases could help solve the problem or maybe the new memory controller in the ryzen 3000 series could provide better compatibility for this memory ?

Or should I just buy another certified memory for the asrock B450M ?

Thank's
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I think it the CPU and the BIOS, Ryzen apparently might have problems with 3000MHz ram (it's very hit and miss).
I think the Ryzen3 is older than the Ryzen5.
I'm not convinced faster memory is worth it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bred Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2019 at 11:28pm
Hello :)

Thank's for your answer.
What did you mean by "it's very hit ans miss" ?

On my side, I think it may be good to have not too slow memory frequency but I have not made many tests on my computer to compare cpu performance with high & low memory frequencies..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bjlockie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2019 at 12:56am
Originally posted by Bred Bred wrote:

Hello :)
What did you mean by "it's very hit and miss" ?

Sometimes they work when overclocked, sometimes they don't.
You could try the other slots.
A new BIOS might fix it.
Are you using an XMP profile to set it to 3000MHz?
You could try increasing the voltage to the RAM but check all the specifications first.

See the Memory section of:
https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M%20Steel%20Legend/#Specification
I think the Ryzen3 1200 is Summit Ridge (I hate code names).
The charts don't seem to have overclocking.
2133MHz is the lowest.
I would only think you would get that if you had 32GB.

I would try the other slots and make sure it is using an XMP profile.


https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Memory/VENGEANCE%C2%AE-RGB-16GB-%282-x-8GB%29-DDR4-DRAM-3000MHz-C15-Memory-Kit/p/CMR16GX4M2C3000C15#tab-tech-specs

Fan Included
No
Memory Configuration
Dual / Quad Channel
Memory Series
VENGEANCE RGB
Memory Type
DDR4
Memory Size
16GB Kit (2 x 8GB)
Tested Latency
15-17-17-35
Tested Voltage
1.35V
Tested Speed
3000MHz
Memory Color
BLACK
LED Lighting
RGB
Single Zone / Multi-Zone Lighting
Single Zone
SPD Latency
15-15-15-36
SPD Speed
2133MHz
SPD Voltage
1.2V
Speed Rating
PC4-24000 (3000MHz)
Compatibility
Intel 100 Series,Intel 200 Series,Intel 300 Series,AMD 300 Series, AMD 400 Series
Heat Spreader
Anodized Aluminum
Package Memory Format
DIMM
Performance Profile
XMP 2.0
Package Memory Pin
288

You should be able to see the voltage in the BIOS, 1.2 is the default.
If it doesn't see XMP, you'll need to set everything manually.
Increase the speed to 3000MHz and the voltage to 1.35 and 15-17-17-35 but XMP is easier.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote xhue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2019 at 2:32am
BIOS releases most certainly can fix the memory speed, but:
1. Choosing a non-validated memory for a given mobo is at your OWN risk. No guarantees it will run at its advertised speed. Thas's why QVL exist.
2. Ryzen 3 1200 won't benefit much (if at all) from faster memory. I can't think of a reasonable workload for that particular CPU where memory could be a bottleneck. Ryzen 3 1200 will certainly love RAM with tigher timings, though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bjlockie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2019 at 2:45am
Originally posted by xhue xhue wrote:


1. Choosing a non-validated memory for a given mobo is at your OWN risk. No guarantees it will run at its advertised speed. Thas's why QVL exist.


QVL in my experience never test a lot of the available RAM (which locally tend to be very limited choices).
I have yet to buy any QVL RAM and I've never had a problem getting stated speeds.
Maybe I've been lucky.
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Originally posted by bjlockie bjlockie wrote:

Originally posted by xhue xhue wrote:


1. Choosing a non-validated memory for a given mobo is at your OWN risk. No guarantees it will run at its advertised speed. Thas's why QVL exist.


QVL in my experience never test a lot of the available RAM (which locally tend to be very limited choices).
I have yet to buy any QVL RAM and I've never had a problem getting stated speeds.
Maybe I've been lucky.


Good for you. However, this doesn't change a single word from what I said earlier.

No manufacturer can test and validate all possible combinations between components, not on a sane budget anyway. That's the reason you see quite small QVL.

You can either pick from QVL for maximum certainty; make an educated guess; or just roll the dice. Either choice comes with its consequences, no escape from causality.

I always liked how a few people on some forum (or internet in general) make some statement and automatically make it the norm, i.e. I've been blindly picking RAM for my builds and never had an issue, so the same is valid for all.
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Hello :)

Originaly, I bought this corsair memory to work with my asus prime x370-pro (in the QVL) and after I tried to have them work on my new computer (asrock MB steel legend).
None XMP or manual settings make them work at 3000Mhz, it seems to be locked in 2133mhz (but I just tried XMP and 3000mhz frequency maybe it could run at other frequencies..)

Anyway, when I will buy a new ryzen 5 3xxx, I will see if there any improvements.

In the meanwhle I bought a new kit, G.Skill Ripjaws 5 (F4-3200C16D-16GVKB) that doesn't figure in the asrock QVL, this time I roll the dice^^ Maybe it will perform better, the price was not expensive (87??for 2x8Go), if not I will keep it from another computer.

https://www.alternate.fr/G-Skill/16-Go-DDR4-3200-Kit-M%C3%A9moire/html/product/1227030?

I will try to think of updating this topic when I'll have the new ryzen cpu.
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Good news here,

It seems the last bios (2.10) solved my problem !

My corsair memory now runs at 3000Mhz on the asrock B450 steel legend.

Like with my asus prime X370-pro, the CAS 15 doesn't work^^ it puts himslef at CAS 16.. (on XMP setting or manually adjdusted)
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Originally posted by Bred Bred wrote:

Good news here,

It seems the last bios (2.10) solved my problem !

My corsair memory now runs at 3000Mhz on the asrock B450 steel legend.

Like with my asus prime X370-pro, the CAS 15 doesn't work^^ it puts himslef at CAS 16.. (on XMP setting or manually adjdusted)


Great.
I think the 3000MHz is more important than the CAS.
Is the XMP setting CAS 16?
I think Corsair put the XMP in the RAM so maybe ask them.
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