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Or rather Current input value is wrong, because Power input = Current x Voltage
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And obviously power input can't be lower than output.
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I opened a support inquiry with AMD on this and they're fine to RMA the cpu, which would most probably solve nothing. I also opened one with Asrock (I hope they don't directly offer to RMA, as i'm not too keen to that if it's just a firmware bug). People on /r/amd were omg-ing when I was telling them that most of the times Intel Burn test or Prime95 push my 3900X into 95 Celsius, but it seems to be working as intended, since the Taichi has the power to pump into the CPU.

Thank you for your patience with this stuff. I'm curious what other people with Taichis and 3900Xs see...
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Originally posted by foxx1337 foxx1337 wrote:

I opened a support inquiry with AMD on this and they're fine to RMA the cpu, which would most probably solve nothing. I also opened one with Asrock (I hope they don't directly offer to RMA, as i'm not too keen to that if it's just a firmware bug). People on /r/amd were omg-ing when I was telling them that most of the times Intel Burn test or Prime95 push my 3900X into 95 Celsius, but it seems to be working as intended, since the Taichi has the power to pump into the CPU.

Thank you for your patience with this stuff. I'm curious what other people with Taichis and 3900Xs see...


Hi foxx1337,

I have exactly the same problem you have, but in my case it's an x570 Steel Legend with a 3800x.

The main problem is with all settings default in bios system is not stable under OCCT test with small dataset and AVX2, the system works at vcore 1,375 and 4100 mhz and reaches more than 95º.

With a premium air cooling and manual overclock I've get 4300 mhz @1,275v, even with the test I've tell reaches slightly more than 90º its completely stable and in normal tests it's about 70º max

I mean, on manual overclock this seems to be not a problem but definetly something's not working ok when under completely full load says 60w.

Have you get any response from Asrock or AMD?

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I forgot to tell it also happends to me:

If I run Prime95 small FFT test I INSTANTLY reach 95 degrees celsius at ~4 ghz all core and ~"71W" Total Socket Power (PPT) with ~"33A" of Sustained Current Limit (TDC). This would make my 3900X half as power hungry as what Gamers Nexus have and also around half of what AMD are marketing, while at the same performance. Due to it not even coming close to the 142 watt PPT, it never stops asking for more since it's halfway through the socket power limitation, but it does stop due to the other ceiling - the 95 Celsius temperature limit.

Only difference I use OCCT small FFT with AVX2, processor runs at 4100mhz and 1,36v and gets 25º instantly.

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ASRock told me the numbers (small wattage and aperage) are normal. The whole email thread with them is a total laughing stock if you ask me - at some point they tried to convince me that 142 W (the max reading by default) is ok, which completely misses the point, since I was complaining about the 71 part from "71 W out of 142 W".

Hopefully something will happen with the next AGESA version, since ASRock seem to be relatively fast to roll them out. Maybe I even start seeing boosts past 4.3 GHz on my 3900X.
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Originally posted by foxx1337 foxx1337 wrote:

ASRock told me the numbers (small wattage and aperage) are normal. The whole email thread with them is a total laughing stock if you ask me - at some point they tried to convince me that 142 W (the max reading by default) is ok, which completely misses the point, since I was complaining about the 71 part from "71 W out of 142 W".

Hopefully something will happen with the next AGESA version, since ASRock seem to be relatively fast to roll them out. Maybe I even start seeing boosts past 4.3 GHz on my 3900X.


Many thanks for your answer and sorry me for taking that long in replying you (I've been disconnected during some weeks).

For your answer I see there is no responde from asrock, I obviously still have the measurement problem, perhaps will be fixed in new bios with AGESA 1.0.04??? xD

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote foxx1337 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2019 at 10:56pm
According to various thread on Reddit on bot /r/amd and /r/asrock others with ASRock X570 (not necessarily Taichi) see similar readings. Let's hope.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UAqSzfpCjw&t=410s AMD reduced Ryzen 3000 boost clocks to avoid damage, says ASUS employee..


I think amd have reduced the clockspeeds with the agesa 1003abb and chipset driver update, and they did it because the cpu's cant handle where they were clocked at.. I think this is also why we arent seeing any stock resupply of the 3900x's.




Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive.
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Sure, but it's unrelated to the issue of this topic.
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