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PetrolHead 
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 Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 2:40am |
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Thank you for the screenshots. Your RAM timing values seem to be okay, but for some reason your RAM voltage is higher than it's supposed to be for that speed. You might want to set it to 1.5 V at first to make sure it's not causing the issues you're experiencing. The core voltage displayed by CPU-Z does also seem a bit high. It should be closer to 1.375 V at 4 GHz. F-Stream does show it to be 1.376 V, so the question is which one is closer to the truth? If you run, say, HWMonitor, how much does the voltage fluctuate?
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wardog
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Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 2:16am |
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It's DDR memory. Dual Data Rate, so dual of 800 is 1600. 1600/800
That it shows 1333/667 is again the JEDEC Default that it automatically sets to. We'll get to changing this in a sec ..... ----- ----- Um, your Core Voltage is terribly high for the Clock Speed displayed. Too high! Have you been in the BIOS making changes, and the truth here please, as your answer matters greatly and much that will follow is dependent on the answer you give. |
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dinin70
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Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 1:22am |
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Dear Wardog, Petrolhead, Here are the printscreens... It looks there is something strange about the RAM. Should be a 1600mhz like it is mentionned in the "part number" of the SPD section. It is stated as 1333mhz in the BIOS and here in CPUZ I see max bandwith 667Mhz... Is this normal? Anyway I let you check all the things you asked Can you see the printscreens? Edited by dinin70 - 07 Jan 2016 at 1:24am |
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dinin70
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 6:11pm |
Haha, if that's the problem, that wouldn't be just nice, that would be great! I'll provide you the printscreens around 21h00 / 22h00! Thank you for your help!
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wardog
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 6:00pm |
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Hmmm, in mulling this over I'm wondering if the XMP Profile on your admittedly older sticks conform to the minimum XMP 1.2 Profiles your board allows.
YEA! Screenshots .... Please. Those will speak volumes to all this. |
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wardog
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 5:52pm |
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Most memory will "Default' to the JEDEC Standard of 1333 on initially installing them. That is to ensure that they will boot right away on nearly all current computer systems. It is then to the User to configure them up to their advertised speed.
Let me and PetrolHead have a look see at those screenshots. It may be something as simple as guiding you to set them manually to 1600. Wouldn't that be nice ........ |
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dinin70
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 5:03pm |
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Dear Wardog, Petrolhead,
First of all I would like to apology to AsRock myself. I don't think you (Wardog) are an apologist to AsRock . If I bought some month ago AsRock and not Gygabite (like my previous Intel Chipset) or MSI is because for my previous builds, when I was a teenager, I always sticked to AsRock. When I built the Intel chipset brand-new PC 5 years ago I gave my computer at that time to my mother. Well, that computer, an AMD chipset on AsRock (I don't remember the CPU / Chipset), is still alive, it's almost 10years old. AsRock never defaulted on me up to today, unless my RAM is bad, in which cas they never ever defaulted on me for more than 15 years. If I was grumpy, it's just that I'm a bit upset for the moment :) Anyway, that's not the point. Said this now I equally feel better towards AsRock :) I thought that all AM3+ Motherboards set RAM frequency at default @ 1333mhz and in order to "unleash" 1600mhz you need to manually overclock your RAM through the BIOS. I thought it was normal actually that the ram was set @ 1333mhz... In fact, if you check for example MSI 970 Gaming, you see that everything that is less or equal to 1333mhz is not marked as Overclock while everything that is marked equal or more than 1600mhz is marked as Overclock. Well, if you tell me it's not normal, then you're providing me some hope about that further stability. The reason why I actually didn't change the RAM when I bought the Fatal1ty is that Corsair says it's compatible with AM3+ chipsets. It's not pointing specifically the AsRock Fatal1ty unlike Kingston that says the HyperX Fury HX318C10FRK2/8 is compatible with this specific MoBo. The Kingston will be arriving on Friday. I can provide you already this night the CPU-Z printscreens of the Corsair. Maximum on Saturday late evening I will provide the ones with the Kingston. Petrolhead, as mentioned uphere, I didn't set manually the RAM to 1333mhz. When you're asking for timing and voltage they are present on CPU-Z SPD. Are you requiring the printscreens from somewhere else? What is the CPU/NB voltage? It is present in F-Stream so I'll be able to provide you a printscreen this late evening, but no clue on how to read the figure... |
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PetrolHead
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 11:22am |
Seconded. Unless you've set your RAM to run @ 1333 MHz manually, it's possible that BIOS is for some reason or another using the wrong settings for your sticks. This includes timings and voltages, so make sure to show/list also your RAM voltage. Knowing the CPU-NB voltage wouldn't hurt either. |
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wardog
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 5:39am |
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And please. I am not an apologist on ASRocks behalf.
To the contrary. Read some of previous posts and you'll see I call 'em like I see 'em. Good, bad, or indifferent.  There. I now feel much better concerning my posts in this particular Thread. |
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wardog
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Posted: 06 Jan 2016 at 5:31am |
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Just a follow up.
Nowhere on ASRocks entire site does it show these CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 sticks, in ANY compatibility list for any motherboard. Old or new. https://www.google.com/search?q=CMX8GX3M2A1600C9+site%3Aasrock.com Indication of probably not many sold. That doesn't mean they won't work, just that ASRock isn't/wasn't aware of them. |
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