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 Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 2:03pm |
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UEFI firmware has been in use for several years now, at least five years really. No PC mother board manufacture would use BIOS firmware at this time.
You can navigate the UEFI GUI type interface with just the arrow keys/cursor movement keys if you like. UEFI firmware simply allows the GUI type interface to be used, it is actually independent of UEFI firmware. I began writing a long description of UEFI firmware, and how to actually use some of its features, but I realized you may not need those at all. It depends upon what you are using as your OS drive, what type of drive. I have no idea what that will be. Since you are building a PC after not doing so for a while, you don't need added complications that may be unnecessary for the hardware you'll be using. We can tell you how to enable the UEFI features you need, IF you need them, in a few sentences, rather than paragraphs of explanations. My thoughts on Secure Boot are irrelevant to you, if you know you need it and why. I don't use it now, but I could enable it in a few minutes because my OS installations are configured in the manner that Secure Boot requires. You can use the drivers from the included disk just fine. Your potential need for the latest version of a particular driver depends upon the hardware you are using with the board. The drive or drives for the OS again are an example of that. Either network port will be faster than any Internet provider's service will be able to provide. Speed wise they are rated the same. One is a standalone network chip, the other is just the PHY interface to the networking capabilities included in the Z170 chipset. You can try the built in OC settings, but they tend to use higher than necessary voltages so they will work with a wide range of processor OC capabilities. Those settings can be good examples of what you need to do, but not as voltage limits. |
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Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 1:31pm |
Just following up to say this works fine. No problem whatsoever.  Of course, following the procedure in the link above is necessary, but not a hardship at all. MS could not have made it simpler, the Media Creation Tool program downloads and creates the bootable USB Flash drive, which works perfectly for a UEFI booting Windows installation, or standard installation. MSoft had to go to this method of changing to Win 10, instead of the ways they initially did. I did not want to install Win 7 just to use the upgrade to Win 10 offer, and then do another, clean Win 10 installation. Hopefully the "digital entitlement" activation will be as flexible as using an OEM activation key, when moved from one PC (mother board) to another. |
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Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 10:18pm |
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Awesome thanks for all the info!
I did contact Gskill and they said that its better to get a single 32gb set (4x 8gb) then the 2x 16gb but it does have a chance of working. Ill report back here and see what it does. One thing they did mention is that this motherboard is only rated for up to DDR4 2800. I thought it could go might higher then that? Am I wrong in thinking that it can do 32gb of DDR4 3200? Thanks! |
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Posted: 14 Apr 2016 at 1:05am |
The answer is not simple.  First, this board has memory up to 3866 in the memory support list. Personally, I have 8GB (2 x 4GB) of G.SKILL TridentZ 3200 memory, that I have been able to OC to 3600. I must have memory training enabled at all times for this to work (MRC Fast Boot disabled), but it does work. For example:  Feel free to show this to G.SKILL. Only running at 3200 now, I'll try to find time to get it to 3600 again. The UEFI/BIOS has memory speed options beyond 3866, and while those speeds are difficult to achieve, the settings are available. As I wrote earlier in this thread (I think...), the more memory being used in the board, the more difficult it is to run it at higher speeds. That is a reality with any mother board, and actually the combination of the board and the memory controller in the CPU. The Memory Support list is a good reference about this situation. Please take a look: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170%20Extreme7+/?cat=Memory Notice as the memory speed increases, particularly above 3000, the number of DIMMs that can be used and have been tested successfully decreases. Starting at one DIMM per channel, some very high speed memory will only work with one DIMM in single channel mode. But we can clearly see that there is a kit from G.SKILL, of 4 x 16GB DIMMs at 3200, that may be used with two DIMMs per channel, the F4-3200C14Q-64GVK kit. The price is breathtaking: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232220 Note that this memory is very similar to the model you plan on using. Similar being the keyword here, but in your case not a matched four DIMM kit. Why G.SKILL told you this board is only rated for memory up to DDR4 2800, I don't know, but I know that is false from personal experience. It is difficult to know the exact specs for every board that exists. Of course, if I can look up this information, so can someone else.  Can I guarantee all of your memory will work at 3200? Nope. I hope it does, or at a slightly reduced speed, say 3000. The only way to know is if someone that uses the identical pair of kits that you want to use has done so, reads this thread and lets you know. I would not depend on that happening. |
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Posted: 14 Apr 2016 at 2:40am |
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parsec you are a rockstar!
I will report all my findings here once I get the thing together this weekend. If it doesn't work then I will probably just return them and get the 32gb kit. If it does then sweet! Again I will report back here with everything! Thanks again! |
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Posted: 15 Apr 2016 at 4:23am |
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So small update.
The 2x 16gb kits I received from newegg had 4x serials in a row!! one kit had xxx-xxxxxxxx1119 and xxx-xxxxxxxx1120 and the other had xxx-xxxxxxxx1121 and xxx-xxxxxxxx1122 so that's a good sign haha |
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Posted: 15 Apr 2016 at 12:49pm |
That's a good sign?  I'd say it's a great sign! If those two kits don't work together, then IMO the kits are tweaked so they don't work together.  One more bit of information for that G.SKILL representative, about ASRock boards not supporting memory above 2800 speed. Send him this link: http://www.asrock.com/news/index.asp?id=3287 |
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Posted: 21 Apr 2016 at 1:13am |
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Reporting back!
System ROCK solid for about a week now at 4600mhz (full load 49C) with the mem at 3200. Ran a benchmark while having a maya file eat up 30gb of ram. Rock solid overnight! Prob a little luck here but yeah, 4x 8gb sticks G.skill 3200 running rock solid at 3200mhz |
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