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Just flashed 1.18, I'll post results in the morning.
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BIOS Version 1.18 is now available for the x670e Taichi. I've updated to it, enabled PBO and EXPO, all other settings left at default values. The boards download page also seemingly has a more up to date chipset driver than the one available direct from AMD so I've installed that as well.

So far so good, no crashes and performance is as expected. I'm even seeing cores hit their advertised 5.7ghz again which is nice. I believe AGESA V1.0.0.3 locked the cores at a max of 5.5ghz for some reason.

I'd be interested to know how it runs for everyone else. I'll report back in a day or two unless I have any problems before then.
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First of all thank you to all contributors for suggestions and workarounds to get a stable platform while we wait for ASROCK to release a new stable bios that fixes all these issues.

Like many of you, I was also plagued with crash on cold boot with black screen or freeze within a minute after logging onto Windows, on some BIOS versions it was worse than others. I had tried everything from 1.09 to all beta 1.11 and even 1.14 version before it was pulled out. However they all showed similar issues more or less.

All BIOS upgrades or downgrades were done using BIOS Flashback method and a clear CMOS was completed prior to configuring the BIOS and installing fresh OS. I must have installed Windows 11 Professional for Workstations 22H2 over 20-30 times in pursuit of a stable build.

Finally I reverted back to BIOS 1.07 and the platform has been 100% stable thus far. I am using EXPO profile for the RAM and the only thing I have disabled in BIOS is the iGPU.

Also in Windows Power Profile I have selected ultimate performance profile (legacy Control Panel Power Settings) and disabled USB Selective Suspend as well as set minimum Processor State to 5% from default of 0%.

Installed the AMD X670E chipset driver directly from AMD (latest version).

All other required motherboard drivers were installed using ASROCK Auto Driver Installer; (Realtek HD Audio, Thunderbolt, Killer WLAN and LAN)

My system config is as follows:
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000)
ASRock X670E Taichi
NVIDIA - GeForce RTX 4090 FE
1X 2TB Evo 970 - OS
3X 2TB 980 Pro - Games
Cablemod EVGA Complete Pro Cable kit with 12VHPWR 4X PCIe Power Cable.
LIAN LI O11 Dynamic EVO O11DEX
LIANLI O11DE-1X Vertical Graphics Card Holder for O11 Dynamic EVO
LIAN LI UNI FAN SL INFINITY 120 RGB BLACK 3 PCS PACK - X3
LIAN LI GALAHAD AIO 360 RGB UNI FAN SL120 EDITION BLACK - Fans Replaced with UNIF FAN SL Infinity
EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 220-P2-1600-X1 80+ PLATINUM 1600W Fully Modular
Razer Huntsman Elite Keyboard
Razer Viper Ultimate Mouse
Streamdeck XL


Can someone from ASROCK chime in on when they will provide a stable BIOS version instead of the plethora of beta versions which come with the use at your own risk disclaimer? I am a big fan of ASROCK build quality and have been using their motherboards for my threadripper platforms as well as other AM4 platforms since a while but looks like the software side of the house is lacking compared to other manufacturers.

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Work's been busy, I haven't tried moving the ram yet and probably won't get a chance until sometime next week.

The main reason I chose this board is because of the sata ports. I have a number of drives I've purchased that I use for storage and gaming and I wanted to continue to be able to use them. I've also had asus and gigabyte boards come doa or die shortly after putting a system together. Msi boards that have the features I want are too expensive for my liking. I think the issues we're having will eventually get solved with a new bios (assuming there's no hardware failure) but until that time we're all stuck.
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Hi,
i think the right thing is to give this back right after purchase. Audio has Noise, DDR5 speed is not as expected, No Linux drivers, No Access to Nuvoton Management Controller, no Access to Board Temperature Sensors, VOltage Monitors nor FAN speed.
In general, a pretty pretty bad board. Never ever Asrock again.
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I?™ve tried this with my G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5 6000 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) kit and it didn?™t make a difference. It was less stable at 6000 rather then 4800 and using one stick swapping around didn?™t help.
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I tried running the ram at stock speeds and got the same result. When I get home from work tomorrow, I'll try booting on 1 stick of ram and next day the other. The problem is that I have to let the PC rest overnight to test the issue. It's also possible that this problem isn't hardware related at all but due to something within windows.
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It?™s also worth pointing out that LGA sockets can be a bit fiddly. For example, Threadripper has a specific install process with a torque tool because too tight can be problematic and too loose can be equally problematic. So reseating the CPU and cooling solution alone could be helpful in some situations.
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It?™s a new platform. Some growing pains aren?™t all that surprising IMO. My RyZen 3950X / ASRock X570 Taichi was rock solid (still is) but it was an iteration building upon earlier RyZen designs that had their own growing pains.

The cause of the issue isn?™t clear to me. I wanted to try a different OS just to see if the behavior changed since in my case the instability was only in Windows and primarily cold boot.

I?™d probably try a new motherboard rather than a new CPU. Still since there will be a RyZen 7950X3D I might give that a go. Reseating the existing CPU might make a difference. Maybe trying a different RAM kit.

FWIW, I think it?™s a really bad idea to try four DIMM?™s in this generation of AMD boards.

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I just wonder how good quality control is for the CPU's. I went through my own similar issues here: https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=25386&title=x670e-taichi-cant-run-stable-with-acpi-cstates except not cold boot related. I ended up buying a second CPU (7600x) just to diagnose the issue and the CPU was the issue. After RMA'ing the CPU I don't have any issues any more (except having an extra CPU).

If you run your memory at stock and have stability issues. Try each stick individually. If you still have stability issues... it's got to be the CPU right? Even if you can find some configuration where it is stable (disabling C-States, iGPU etc..) you shouldn't have to accept this for a $$$ CPU! It might be worth buying another CPU just for diagnosing (7600 is $229 right now) and either return or sell on ebay, otherwise it just feels like spinning in circles.
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