X370 Taichi fast boot

15 to 20 seconds is quite a spread,...what are you using to measure your boot times?

And I just have to say,...a PC's boot time is NO indication of how well it performs i.e. speed, stability, functionality, overclockability,..etc. My HP laptop boots in under 5 seconds, but I wouldn't use it for gaming :)

Also remember you guys are first time users of a completely new platform, cpu, motherboard and chipset,...there are going to be issues (thanks for being my guinea pigs ). If your system is running well don't forget to take the time to enjoy it.

Well this is a pretty big bummer. I purchased an M.2 drive just to get fast booting and it looks like I've wasted my money.

I guess I'll return it. To most, sitting at a station waiting for a 20second boot might seem trivial, but to me it is not acceptable.

I have the X370 Killer SLI A/C paired with a 1700x.

I'm used to a 6 second boot time (to a usable desktop screen) on my laptop.

If they can't bring these boot times down I will swap the M.2 drive out with another cheaper SSD.

I misunderstood the value of an M.2 anyways. I thought it would help with a fast startup, but come to find out it looks like it is only a champion at moving large amounts of data. It is the OS drive so it's really overkill for my purposes.

[URL=][/URL]Sorry I don't have a Ryzen system,... It's in my signature. But I'm very curious about the Ryzen. In general if you use sleep/hybernation your PC will be ready faster. It's worth a shot.

Edited by clubfoot - 06 May 2017 at 7:11am

AlbinoRhino wrote: Well this is a pretty big bummer. I purchased an M.2 drive just to get fast booting and it looks like I've wasted my money. I guess I'll return it. To most, sitting at a station waiting for a 20second boot might seem trivial, but to me it is not acceptable.

A PC's startup time has two parts, POST (Power On Self Test), and the actual loading and running of the OS, which is the "boot" time.

If you had a POST beep speaker connected to your board, and Boot Beep option enabled in the UEFI,  Boot screen, you could track the POST time, and the actual Windows boot time. When you hear the single POST Ok beep, that is the point that Windows begins to boot, and not before that. The fastest SSD in the world cannot do anything to change how long POST is on a system.

On my X370 Killer SLI/ac board with a 1700X and Samsung 960 EVO for the OS drive, after the POST Ok beep, from a cold start, I see the Windows logo for ~one second (Full Screen Logo is disabled), I don't see the circle of spinning dots indicating Windows is loading at all. The Windows logo quickly fades, and since I don't have a password set on this PC, the Desktop is displayed immediately. From POST Ok beep to Desktop is at most three seconds, that is my Windows "boot" time.

Someone asked about waking from Sleep in a Ryzen PC. Windows 10 Sleep works fine on my Ryzen PC, the wake up time is no different than any other PC I've used. POST does not run when waking from Sleep.

The long wait at the station as you put it, is all Ryzen waking up and completing POST. Yes it is long, even longer than my Intel X99 PC, that are always disliked for their long POST times. Why Ryzen takes so long to wake up and POST, I don't know. Besides Ryzen's memory compatibility situation, the long Ryzen POST time is its main negative feature.

Another unfortunate reality is NVMe SSDs do not provide a substantially lower OS boot time than a decent SATA SSD. I assume you have an NVMe SSD, you mentioned M.2, but there are SATA M.2 SSDs, and multiple models of M.2 NVMe SSDs, some faster than others. Many NVMe SSD users have complained about the little to no difference in OS booting time, so you are not alone or doing something wrong. Why that is the case is not understood well. It might be that the Windows file system, long overdue for an overhaul or replacement since it was designed for mechanical HDDs, is the bottleneck. The TRIM instruction added to the SATA standard and now NVMe standard is a workaround for NAND/flash storage that it needs, and is not provided in the Windows file system.

Sorry to say, but if the long startup time of Ryzen boards is not acceptable, then you'll need to return your Ryzen board along with your M.2 SSD. We have no idea at this time if the Ryzen initialization and POST time will be, or can be, reduced. I don't like it either. My Intel Z270 PC using the same 960 EVO SSD as the OS drive, is less than 10 seconds from power button press to Windows Desktop.