new bios versions out (dont rush)

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   Ah, the 'team up'!!!  Good.  Ok, nonetheless I never indicated 'slowness' regarding Bios updates.  I just finished reading an OC Guide at Tom's Hardware featuring the Asus X370 Top Tier board.  That guide touted all of the things they can do with the UEFI/Bios that Asus offers... -yep, that the 'competition' offers.  

In the guide I read, I came across point after point that is not available to me, it was very 'glaring' and a 'stark contrast' IMO.

I do believe ASRocks Bios team is top notch on the Intel side.  There simply may not be that dedication on the AMD side(...UEFI/Bios only, as the hardware/component design is better than the competitors).  Results matter.  As do experiences of the customers.  Understand, I still believe I made the 'best' X370 purchase when comparing to the other 2 Top competitors being Asus and Gigabyte(MSI didn't even show up...).

If, some 'parity' in UEFI/Bios (whether real or euphoric) is not experienced as the weeks turn into months I'm certain most will be disappointed at the very least.

btw here is the link to Tom's:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclocking-amd-ryzen,5011.html

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Kevin A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 02 May 2017 Location: East Coast USA Status: Offline Points: 94	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kevin A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2017 at 8:20am
	Ah, the 'team up'!!! Good. Ok, nonetheless I never indicated 'slowness' regarding Bios updates. I just finished reading an OC Guide at Tom's Hardware featuring the Asus X370 Top Tier board. That guide touted all of the things they can do with the UEFI/Bios that Asus offers... -yep, that the 'competition' offers. In the guide I read, I came across point after point that is not available to me, it was very 'glaring' and a 'stark contrast' IMO. I do believe ASRocks Bios team is top notch on the Intel side. There simply may not be that dedication on the AMD side(...UEFI/Bios only, as the hardware/component design is better than the competitors). Results matter. As do experiences of the customers. Understand, I still believe I made the 'best' X370 purchase when comparing to the other 2 Top competitors being Asus and Gigabyte(MSI didn't even show up...). If, some 'parity' in UEFI/Bios (whether real or euphoric) is not experienced as the weeks turn into months I'm certain most will be disappointed at the very least. btw here is the link to Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclocking-amd-ryzen,5011.html

wardog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 6447	Post Options Post Reply Quote wardog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2017 at 3:26am
	Could have been as bad as MSI had it. They, MSI, took ALL their BIOSes down and stranded their Users with what the had. I agree with daytonb, ASRock has and is listening. While at times it seems they're slow in responding to BIOS issues, of which AM4/Ryzen is loaded with, the BIOSes ASRock releases have been painless when compared to other board manufacturers BIOS releases. Evey ones systems act and behave different, depending, from one release to the other. Trust me, ASRocks BIOS Engineers, yes there are BIOS Engineers as it's a black science, are working diligently to accommodate Users.

datonyb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3154	Post Options Post Reply Quote datonyb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2017 at 2:55am
	^unfortunately i didnt actually 'please refer blow link to verify again' in fact i dont really wish to blow anything but to be fair their english is still much better than my taiwanese
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datonyb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3154	Post Options Post Reply Quote datonyb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2017 at 2:51am
	cut n paste from reddit/amd Greetings, this is ASRock TSD. The BIOS structure of BIOS P2.00 is exactly v1.0.0.4a, and it's also confirmed by AMD. Because the 3rd party tool read the AGESA code version from the specific strings and the strings hasn't been modified as v1.0.0.4a, the 3rd party tool just show the AGEDA code as the old version v1.0.0.3?? But we have released latest BIOS P2.30 to Update Agesa Version string "SummitPI-AM4 1.0.0.4a", please refer blow link to verify again.
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datonyb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3154	Post Options Post Reply Quote datonyb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2017 at 2:47am
	well in a way i sort of disagree asrock HAVE listened to the users on here and changed a bit of bios to prevent the sleepless nights of a few who sit staring at there computer screen with hwinfo open and demand it to say 1004 feel the love............. meanwhile back in the real world lets hope the rest of the bios team are working with amd and making the most of the 1005 release to cover as many brands and versions of ram to QVL some good results may we hope for 3600? may we hope support for overclocking some tasty samsung b dies to 4000 on a side note i believe the gigabyte you mention ALSO has an issue with hwinfo reporting agesa as 1003 myself ? i wont be bothering to update to version 2.2 i just found it amusing they even bothered to release/waste time changing the id string to keep some tin hat wearer happy (footnote..im not implying you to be a tin hat wearer the object of my banter isnt aimed directly at anyone)
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Kevin A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 02 May 2017 Location: East Coast USA Status: Offline Points: 94	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kevin A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2017 at 2:24am
	That would be disappointing if there were no significant changes in the newly released UEFI/Bios update. Although, it would not be a surprise at this point as AsRock made the best X370 Motherboards 'component-wise' and even 'feature-wise' - the UEFI/Bios experience and usability of it has been another story. Asus and Gigabyte X370 customers complained a *ton* at first(early March)... but those manufacturers 'stepped' up and produced updates 'worthy' of their Brand... I hope this month AsRock does the same, as the BCLK external generator does not function correctly. The competition has proven they can implement their BCLK generator design flawlessly, as well as vastly improving DDR4 memory performance and compatibility. I'll download the latest Bios and check it out later today... cant hurt worse than it already does... right???

datonyb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2017 Location: London U.K. Status: Offline Points: 3154	Post Options Post Reply Quote datonyb Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2017 at 1:58am
	seems we have had a new bios out today for most of us dont risk the flash process it would seem it is only a change to the identifying line of text in hwinfo eg it now reports itself as agesa 1004 and not agesa 1003 so the few people who just cannot sleep at night with bios version 1004 saying its 1003 in hwinfo can now GET SOME SLEEP
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