X370 Gaming X NO LLC? OffsetV+FixedV Values only?

As i am not very happy with the X370 Gaming K4 and its Ram OC and possibly going EOL (is it? statement from ASRock plz! ) i purchased a X370 Gaming X aswell to compare the two Boards.

I thought the Boards would be kinda identical concerning BIOS options, but they are not.

-The Gaming X is lacking LLC (CPU+SOC)
-Voltage can only be set to Offset mode
-Only fixed Offset Voltages can be selected from a list
-For CPU a max neagtive value of -100mv is possible
-SOC can only be increased, no negative Values possible

This is ridiculous, i mean this is a X370 board and i would expect those options an a baord with the X370.

Also i noticed a problem with RAM Voltage. When i load the XMP profile the volatge should be set to 1.35V for my RAM. But somehow the Board sets 1.25V .
If i manually increase to 1.4V it shows 1.3V in the BIOS and HWInfo.
This seems to be a Bug.

I used Bios Version 1.10

I can understand that, i had just hoped to possibly get some information about planed Bios changes here.
I used the form to contact ASRock before posting here but am still waiting for an answer.

Ok, i really hope that LLC and other options are coming a little later, cause HQ components sounds nice but without LLC i need higher CPU voltage to reach the same clock as on the X370 Gaming K4.
To compensate the droop (in my case) now 1.35V on the X vs 1.30V on the K4 for 3.9Ghz are needed.
So although the X performs quite good already (thanks to the better components maybe) there is a well noticeable CPU voltage droop (~0.05V) .
Also on the K4 reducing the SOC voltage helped reducing CPU heat, in my case it also helped stabilizing the system at some point. On the other Hand the X seems to get on with higher SOC better than the K4.

edit:

Another Thing i noticed is that when using default CPU voltage & core settings the vcore a maximum of 1.44V in certain conditions. I Think this is the case when 1 core boosts to 3.9Ghz but not 100% sure about that. That seems to be a little too much in my eyes.
Under full load  (eg Prime95) the voltage is at ~1.2V .


Edited by BoneCrusherXes - 24 Jun 2017 at 12:43am

BoneCrusherXes wrote: As i said before, the "DRAM VOLTAGE" is not displayed correctly. As the "VTT_DDR" is displayed correctly (1/2 of the dram voltage) and my kit runs @3200 with "1.25v" (displayed volatge) i suspect the problem affects only the displayed dram voltage and not the actual voltage for the dram. The questions is how there can be a -0.1v offset on the displayed dram voltage. here is a screenshot: <snipped out>

The 1.300 displayed on the left of the line DRAM Voltage is is is... hmmm, suggested. Or ... What it will attempt using if YOU didn't override it by entering a value on the right. What YOU set on the right, 1.400 IS the voltage used.

Make sense?

Gasp ......You shouldn't need that much v''s on that mem. Well, maybe. What MHz it running to need 1.400 vDIMM/0.700 VTT?

What are you running for CnQ, C states, Windows Power Plan, memory timings, GearDown, procODT and CLDO_VDDP ??? Latest 17.10 chipset drivers from AMD?

Why is SoC Voltage left unchanged in that pic too?


Edited by wardog - 26 Jun 2017 at 4:03am

Fatal1ty X370 Gaming X has more cheap VRM based on ISL95712 instead of K4 have IR35201 like top motherboards.
IMHO overclock will be limited by controller, like on all other more cheap motherboards.