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datonyb
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mark ups for stockist price for consumer i agree i dont think it excells as ram myself but i did used to favour it with ddr2 ( xms2 used to be a safe bet for the money) i still feel blessed by the gods that i managed to overclock some ddr4 2400 corsair lpx to 2933 on a ryzen 1600 system a week or two ago ,and on the same brand motherboard last weekend got another system to click xmp directly at 2933 with the 3000 lpx sticks (it is what a consumer expects but dosnt often see on ryzen at the moment) what choice do we have ? gskill tridentz has seen prices skyrocket in the UK since ryzen launched (well the samsung sticks at least) |
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That makes two of us. Whenever I've had the displeasure of using a Corsair kit it has always been any order of magnitude inferior to any other RAM kits I've tested, wether that be G.Skill, Mushkin, when they were about Cellshock, and more often than not even generic kits. Unless you are buying Corsairs most expensive RAM it's a real grab bag of utter dung and absolutely not worth it. The kits that are £/$10 more are so for a reason, theres actually at least some quality in those kits.
Honestly, buy any other brand or even generic and you'll have less problems getting it to run with Ryzen than a Corsair kit. Thats coming from someone who has had quite a few chats about how problematic Corsair kits are on Ryzen and numerous users coming to me with Corsair kits not working on Ryzen hoping I have some timings for them. It's generally agreed to stay away from Corsair if you have or plan to get a Ryzen system. In my case I'd take it further and say don't bother with Corsair at all go with any other brand, pay the bit extra and get a kit that isn't made with bottom of the barrel ICs. I've heard a lot of stories over the years about Corsair overclocking ICs out of the box so to speak and selling them at higher labelled frequencies. Make of that what you will. Edited by ket - 08 Sep 2017 at 9:38am |
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Just FYI, the A2 and B2 slots are the primary slots that should be used for dual channel mode, when using either single or dual rank DIMMs, on ASRock Ryzen boards, and the majority of other ASRock boards. The exception to this is the X99 and now X299 boards, that should have the A1, B1, etc, slots populated first. |
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Have you cleared the UEFI/BIOS with the jumper on the board at any time while testing your memory? If not, you need to do that now. Also do a Load UEFI defaults when you get into UEFI after it is cleared. When over clocking memory, we know we need to increase the DRAM voltage to allow the memory to complete POST. If increasing the DRAM voltage causes a POST failure, which we still don't have any clue about the cause, not even POST beeps that I asked about, I would only dismiss the board as bad if it did that with more than one model of memory. I'm very surprised that this memory runs at 2666 at 1.21V at all. For the two Intel systems this memory was designed for, X99 and the 100 series chipset boards, any memory speed above 2133 is a memory OC. There is no chance this memory could operate a 2666 at 1.21V on any of those Intel systems. What are you using to check the DRAM voltage when in Windows? When you set the DRAM voltage to 1.35V with A-Tuning, did you check what the DRAM voltage is with another program, like Aida64? |
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Thats the one, I knew it was A2+B2 or A1+B1, hard to remember sometimes with so many configurations rattling around in the ol noggin. You test / read as much tech as I have it all blurs in to one a bit sometimes. |
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Hi, First of all, thanks guys, you`re trying to help me. CMOS properly cleared and UEFI defaults loaded. I did this way and no positive results. When I set voltage to 1.35v, the mobo won`t post, and there are no beeps. It posted, during the tests, 4 or 5 times, but fail next boot. One important thing: It won`t work even with memory at 2133. It`s voltage problem only. Are you surprised with the RAM working 2666\1.21v? Yes, it is something hard to understand. As I said, it passed Memtest, Asus RealBench, Windows Memory Diagnostic, Prime95 Blend. Failed Aida64 in 10 seconds...... About voltage measuring via windows, I`m using Ryzen Master. After the system starts, I get 1.21v. When I set 1.35v with A-Tuning, Ryzen show me 1.35v. Can I trust A-Tuning is really changing the voltage? Aida64 stability fails, anyway, but I`m not considering at this moment. One last thing: I have 9 builds and I never seen something like this. I don`t want to extract all the juice of the sticks, I`m trying only to set the correct voltage. |
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i dont buy corsair for ryzen, i bought gskill for mine I DO have to try and get corsair or whatever working for friends when THEY buy corsair in fairness the last two ryzen builds i have sorted out both used corsair and it couldnt be criticised allthough in fairness they were both fitted to another brand of board which does seem to have a very good bios to support corsair ram |
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This is definitely one of the oddest things I've heard in 22 years of being involved with technology I think we are just going to have to keep taking baby steps until the problem can be isolated. The next thing I would suggest is to run HCI Memtest, opening enough instances to fully utilise your RAM if you use the free version, and let it run for at least 2-3 hours then see if it reports any memory errors. As you say 2133Mhz is even problematic right now my prime suspect would be the memory itself just not playing nicely.
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Sorry just asking, do you have a POST beep speaker connected to the board, and the POST beep option enabled in the UEFI, Boot screen? Otherwise no POST beeps. Can you trust A-Tuning? Can you have A-Tuning and Ryzen Master running at the same time, and keep changing the DRAM voltage in A-Tuning to various values, and see it shown and changed in Ryzen Master? Or another program like HWiNFO64? All we have are the monitoring programs in Windows to check voltages, but now we can't trust them? A-Tuning can somehow fool those programs? Does the AIDA64 stress test fail quickly with the DRAM voltage set to 1.35V in A-Tuning? Do you have the AM4 Advance Boot Training option enabled (Auto = enabled) in the OC Tweaker screen? If you do, disable it as a test. It hasn't helped the memory speed on my Ryzen PC. Did you ever try putting both DIMMs in one channel as a test? Using A1 and A2, or B1 and B2? Did you try removing the CPU and reseating it again? No bent pins? Unless something is shorting one of the DRAM slot contacts under the board, or a CPU pin problem, it's either the board or the memory. |
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Hard troubleshooting....
I did some tests today and I found, in this following sequence: 1) Using the two sticks at the A Channel, I can work with 1.35v, or any voltage. 2) Using the two sticks at the BChannel, I can work with 1.35v, or any voltage. 3) The problem, so, happens when I use the sticks in the two channels.... Odd behavior? So, after this, I decided to test the sticks one by one, doing Aida64 Memory Stability Test. And I found: 1) Using the first sitck, I pass the test. 2) Using the second stick, it fails. 3) Testing again, with the RESEATED second sitck, it fails again. The second stick is defectiive, I'm sure. Ok, now I found something. But what the hell is the relation between this, with all the voltage problems I had???? I'll try to solve this with the shop, or with Corsair, but I really can't associate the problem with the defective stick, with the voltage problems I had........ Thanks!
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