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Also why the phuck do Asrock set the default bus clock on all their bios at 99.8

Why not just have it at 100!....I hate seeing my 4.1GHz clock read 4.091 FFS!
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because CPU clocks are 66.667 what you see in windows is already rounded

like how you call it 4.1Ghz instead of 4.191.60
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I've installed the new Uefi (2.00 -> 2.30 - > 3.10), but the Dr. Debug Display shows the A5 code (the v2.00 has given the AA code always). Is this a bug or a feature?

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Originally posted by lowdog lowdog wrote:

Also why the phuck do Asrock set the default bus clock on all their bios at 99.8

Why not just have it at 100!....I hate seeing my 4.1GHz clock read 4.091 FFS!

How do you not know what spread spectrum is. Because of possible electromagnetic interference, they do a slight offset to the value set. It spreads out what spectrums are being used so that other devices nearby do not inject errors into the signals on the MB. Why don't you look it up. It has only been part of computer systems for decades. Good job for a baseless complaint.
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Spread-spectrum clock generation (SSCG) is used in some synchronous digital systems, especially those containing microprocessors, to reduce the spectral density of the electromagnetic interference (EMI) that these systems generate. A synchronous digital system is one that is driven by a clock signal and, because of its periodic nature, has an unavoidably narrow frequency spectrum. In fact, a perfect clock signal would have all its energy concentrated at a single frequency (the desired clock frequency) and its harmonics. Practical synchronous digital systems radiate electromagnetic energy on a number of narrow bands spread on the clock frequency and its harmonics, resulting in a frequency spectrum that, at certain frequencies, can exceed the regulatory limits for electromagnetic interference (e.g. those of the FCC in the United States, JEITA in Japan and the IEC in Europe).

Spread-spectrum clocking avoids this problem by using one of the methods previously described to reduce the peak radiated energy and, therefore, its electromagnetic emissions and so comply with electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) regulations.

It has become a popular technique to gain regulatory approval because it requires only simple equipment modification. It is even more popular in portable electronics devices because of faster clock speeds and increasing integration of high-resolution LCD displays into ever smaller devices. As these devices are designed to be lightweight and inexpensive, traditional passive, electronic measures to reduce EMI, such as capacitors or metal shielding, are not viable. Active EMI reduction techniques such as spread-spectrum clocking are needed in these cases.

However, spread-spectrum clocking, like other kinds of dynamic frequency change, can also create challenges for designers. Principal among these is clock/data misalignment, or clock skew.

Note that this method does not reduce total radiated energy, and therefore systems are not necessarily less likely to cause interference. Spreading energy over a larger bandwidth effectively reduces electrical and magnetic readings within narrow bandwidths. Typical measuring receivers used by EMC testing laboratories divide the electromagnetic spectrum into frequency bands approximately 120 kHz wide.[6] If the system under test were to radiate all its energy in a narrow bandwidth, it would register a large peak. Distributing this same energy into a larger bandwidth prevents systems from putting enough energy into any one narrowband to exceed the statutory limits. The usefulness of this method as a means to reduce real-life interference problems is often debated, as it is perceived that spread-spectrum clocking hides rather than resolves higher radiated energy issues by simple exploitation of loopholes in EMC legislation or certification procedures. This situation results in electronic equipment sensitive to narrow bandwidth(s) experiencing much less interference, while those with broadband sensitivity, or even operated at other higher frequencies (such as a radio receiver tuned to a different station), will experience more interference.

FCC certification testing is often completed with the spread-spectrum function enabled in order to reduce the measured emissions to within acceptable legal limits. However, the spread-spectrum functionality may be disabled by the user in some cases. As an example, in the area of personal computers, some BIOS writers include the ability to disable spread-spectrum clock generation as a user setting, thereby defeating the object of the EMI regulations. This might be considered a loophole, but is generally overlooked as long as spread-spectrum is enabled by default.

An ability to disable spread-spectrum clocking in computer systems is considered useful for overclocking, as spread spectrum can lower maximum clock speed achievable due to clock skew." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_spectrum

Now, if you were asking for the ability to turn off Spread Spectrum, I'd agree with that. But making a complaint rather than asking a question that is so simple is a problem.

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LOL. If this is the only problem identified till date (Spread Spectrum and rounding up the clock) then I'll gladly install this new BIOS/UEFI Wink

Anyone tested P-States OC, Memory Stability & OC ? 
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Are any new BIOS settings exposed?
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Originally posted by The User The User wrote:

I've installed the new Uefi (2.00 -> 2.30 - > 3.10), but the Dr. Debug Display shows the A5 code (the v2.00 has given the AA code always). Is this a bug or a feature?

PS: Drives installed: 3x 2.5 SATA SSD, 2x 3.5 HDD, 1 Samsung 970 Pro in an Aqua Computer kryoM.2 evo PCIe Adapter)



Same A5 with Dr Debug...??..a bug?



I'm not Caaaapt Geeeeek know it all..... spread spectrum

Edited by lowdog - 26 Jul 2018 at 5:09am
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Originally posted by SoniC SoniC wrote:

LOL. If this is the only problem identified till date (Spread Spectrum and rounding up the clock) then I'll gladly install this new BIOS/UEFI?Wink

Anyone tested P-States OC, Memory Stability & OC ??




P-States OC only works with 1950X and vcore will down volt when idle as will clocks.....it doesn't work correctly with 1920X or 1900X as it will only down clock at idle but not down volt....have to ask AMD why that is I suppose but that is my findings as well as Asrock TSD after they tested with 1950X and 1920X after I prompted them too.

Edited by lowdog - 26 Jul 2018 at 12:22pm
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So fr so good, but again no issues here with 3.0 either.
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