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    Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 8:08pm
Can anyone tell how fast speed does the:

"1 x Vertical M.2 Socket (Key E), 2230 WiFi/BT PCIe WiFi module" on X670E Taichi support?

Is it enough for 40 Gbps Wi-Fi 7?

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Please see in the Specs, the tab Wireless LAN
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X670E%20Taichi/index.asp#Specification
The actual transfer speed is more a matter, of what you router and the Wifi card negotiate, but 6 GHz should give a good result
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Thanks, but I'm talking about using that socket for upgrading to WiFi 7 when those 2230 WiFi modules become available.

So basically asking if the slot has ??PCIe 4.0 x4 bandwidth?
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Oh, the "greater than or equal to" symbol wasn't supported. Was replaced by those two "??"
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A/E-keyed m.2 slots only have 2 PCIe lanes.
I highly doubt they're Gen 4.
In fact, I doubt they're Gen 3, even.

But if we assume they're two Gen 3 lanes, that's almost 2GB/s, or slightly less than 16Gb/s. If Gen 2 lanes, it's half that, at less than 8Gb/s.

You mention Wi-Fi 7 (which isn't even finalized yet) and 40Gb/s number, but those are all theoretical numbers. For example, Wi-Fi6 (802.11ax) theoretically can push 10Gb/s, but the actual over-the-air bandwidth is more like 2Gb/s.

Intel's own "What is Wi-Fi 7" paper says they're expecting to push 8Gb/s over the air. So even two lanes of PCIe Gen2 is just about enough for that.
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Thanks for the info! It's little confusing and not yet clear to me what practical speeds WiFi 7 makes possible. I know the average maximum speed is little under 25% from the theoretical maximum for the best WiFi 6E routers at 15 ft. Like 2,4 Gbps for Netgear Nighthawk RAXE500.

If extrapolating from that, for the best this years first gen WiFi 7 routers with 33 Gbps spec it would mean 8,25 Gbps / ~1 GB/s. And for the upcoming, 46,4 Gbps certification maxing, routers it would mean about 11,6 Gbps / ~1,5 GB/s.

Closing the distance to 3 feet probably rises that considerably for the 6 GHz range, maybe to ~2,5 GB/s. But becase most use is further away, the 2 GB/s from PCIe 3 x2 would be fine.

But I have read articles saying that the IEEE?™s 802.11be target performance is 30 Gbps / 3,75 GB/s (for the 46,4 Gbps spec). Also article from test equipment manufacturer meantioned the target being to increase data throughput to tens of gigabits per second.

So with PCIe 3 x2 it might be possible to get only little over half of this performance. PCIe 4 x2 would be great though.

Why this matters to me is the planned use case, dual 4K / 5K VR (WiFi 7 support not until 2024 though). Here all the possible bandwidth (4 ft to 6 ft distance) is needed. But I guess if it comes to that I can then buy a more expensive router to motherboard's full size PCIe slot. Or possibly external, USB4 one
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