Fatal1ty B450 Windows installation looping
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Topic: Fatal1ty B450 Windows installation looping
Posted By: Masterbenz
Subject: Fatal1ty B450 Windows installation looping
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 4:05am
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Hi Just bought a AMD system for my son and I'm already starting to regret it. Have some problems I can't find a solution for. When installing windows 10 from USB the installation starts over and over again. I have tried to Google a solution but I didn't find a workaround. I have set boot orders to USB/HDD - HDD/USB. Have tried load setup defaults. The only thing that works is to pull out the USB under boot. But that's not a solution to a brand new motherboard. I have also some problems with SATA controllers. HDD can be recognized in bios and windows but not in diskmanagement or file explorer. But I can strangely enough see "system disk" in file explorer. I have the new bios 1.8 Samsung Evo 970 Nvme Seagate SSHD 1 TB I really need help fast. Just used a day on this. I want to return the motherboard if it's no solution. |
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 4:14am
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Duplicate post deleted. When installing windows 10 it is always best to install with only the OS drive installed on the system. Once done then add the storage drive. This is due to the nature of EFI booting, it will often write to the secondary drive and cause EFI issues on the system. Boot order shouldn't make a difference to the installation, it sounds like your installation medium is not working correctly. Download microsoft's tool and create a new install medium, let us know if that works for you. Rest assured, the issue is very unlikely to be the SATA ports or board, were that true we would be seeing a lot more posts like yours here on the forums. Honestly, I suspect the issue is having both drives connected during installation. Make sure your boot options are set to EFI not GPT and try the install again without the mechanical drive connected. ------------- 
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Posted By: Masterbenz
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 4:36am
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Well I tried to disconnect the other drive and installed windows 10 AFTER I had plugged the USB from the port. Connected the Seagate afterwards but as I wrote before windows couldn't not see it. Even a format under windows 10 installation (where I lost tons of data) in pure frustration didn't help. I suspect incompatible hardware from Samsung Evo 970 SSD Nvme. I have made a lot of Intel systems without any problems. I dont want to use a lot of ninja tricks to cheat my hardware. If want some hardware that works with my other newly bought hardware. What I dont understand is that I never got the options "press a key to boot from cd/dvd" IT just boot from the USB. It should btw where set to EFI |
Posted By: nanohead
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 2:40am
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I have the same board and same drive and it runs fine, and installation was fine. Sounds like you haven't done one of these systems in a number of years. The option to "press a key....." isn't native in most modern UEFI based systems. The problems you cite have zero to do with it being an AMD system, as they all use the same bootstrapping technique and Windows doesn't care what the CPU is for the most part. With the NVMe based boot drives, as Xaltar pointed out, its best to build the system up initially with just that drive installed on board. Reset CMOS, and then try again with just the 970 EVO installed. Again, nothing to do with AMD, but just a characteristic of mixing AHCI (SATA Disk software layer) and NVMe (PCIe SSD software layer) still isn't perfect, although its getting there. Blame some of this on still developing UEFI firmware as well. The hardware is perfectly fine, although parts could be defective. A clean install, with minimal components, almost always works |
Posted By: Masterbenz
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 3:54am
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Well I got around it when choosing boot from UEFI. The strange part is, that it wants to boot from my NVME drive as first drive. I'm not used to that I have to change bootorder. It's been a while since I had a AMD system, but I have assembled PCs since 1997. On my Intel systems I never had problems with booting. The "press any key" is still on my core i7 8700K on the MSI Z390 board. I could not even boot from the USB as 1st, at and that I have done for years on my Intel systems. The trouble isn't over yet though. Now Cool n Quiet won't work when I'm overclocking. Just run at full speed at idle regardless of powerplan in windows and settings. |
Posted By: xhue
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 7:22am
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C'n'Q won't work when OC-ing? Well, that sounds like your fuel economy goes down at full throttle... No offense but fisrt, I suggest you read some info on OC-ing Ryzen. The Stilt's thread at Anand's is a good start. One can't expect to go nuclear on all knobs and dials, and evertything to be magically fine. If you need higher dynamics with the clocks, and some extra juice on-the-go, you can do that too. Just check the existing threads here or open another one. |
Posted By: Masterbenz
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 7:36am
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I really don't understand your post. Do you say that I can't expect that everything should work? What BS advice is that? Will CnQ work or not? Or is this another thing that won't work with this AMD system? I have read about oc amd system. But I can't find anything on CnQ not working when oc. I haven't been building a AMD system for 10 years now. Went to Intel because of all these things that didn't worked properly. I can see that it haven't change a bit in 10 years. Even my new RX580 gfx spins 100% when gpu are under 10-20% load. Only way to stop it, is to restart. Probably poor drivers I guess. |
Posted By: xhue
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 8:18am
Oh, bwoy! It sure starts to smell like a fanboy war.  Flame on! /Johnny, FF/The only thing wrong with your system is your attitude towards it. In contrast to you, I've been building mostly AMD systems ever since their K6 days. I stll do to this day, because I know how to tame the beast. Now, on the tech side. C'n'Q will 'work' even if you try and OC, but it will only make the system unstable. If you want high clocks during load AND low clocks during idle, then check P-states OC out. |
Posted By: Masterbenz
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 8:35am
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It's just that AMD system demands a lot more tweaking to get it to work. I'm only a fanboy of the best and cheapest system ;). I have read that pstates should be on. But I can't find it in my bios. I can also read that not every manufacturer has it which is BS. It should be a standard thing. I have also read that the watt usage would not differ big time. About 0-2 watt. Is's funny about cool n quiet. I remember when they released it and at that time they told us to disabled it when oc. I can see that not much has changed. 
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Posted By: xhue
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 6:15pm
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Every clock/state tech must be disabled prior to manual OC. I've even done this on (a few) intel builds. C'n'Q makes no exception. Oddly enough, some mfrs. really choose not to include P-states OC in ther BIOS. Knowing ASRock it would not surprise me if they decided to skip this for your board model. BTW, what you're trying to achieve is also possible with XFR2 & PBO on Ryzen 2. These 2 basically auto 'OC' your CPU when certain conditions are met. 1st gen Ryzens only support XFR, though. |
Posted By: nanohead
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2018 at 11:28pm
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"The strange part is, that it wants to boot from my NVME drive as first drive. I'm not used to that I have to change bootorder. It's been a while since I had a AMD system, but I have assembled PCs since 1997" It prioritizes the NVMe drive because the industry agreed on NVMe as the new fastest boot device to default in UEFI. NVMe as a software layer, like AHCI, is designed to manage disk/ssd interfacing into their hardware layer, like PCIe or SATA. The most advanced boards will default to NVMe if it sees one installed in either the M2 slot or the PCIe slot. The entire industry is going in that direction. "I really don't understand your post. Do you say that I can't expect that everything should work? What BS advice is that? Will CnQ work or not? Or is this another thing that won't work with this AMD system? I have read about oc amd system. But I can't find anything on CnQ not working when oc. I haven't been building a AMD system for 10 years now. Went to Intel because of all these things that didn't worked properly. I can see that it haven't change a bit in 10 years" AMD systems work fine, as do Intel systems. I have both running right now on my desk. They each have their particular methods that their respective engineers design into their operating parameters. One is not better than the other, they both accomplish exactly the same thing. Cool & Quiet hasn't been that relevant since Windows XP and to some extent, Windows 7. In Windows 10, AMD uses various P-States to achieve dynamic frequency scaling and power management, much as Intel uses Turbo Boost and the dreaded SpeedStep. One is not better than the other. You may be "used to" something, but that doesn't make an alternative not work or bad. They all accomplish the same thing. And overclocking generally requires that most power state management schemes be disabled so the CPU can run full out with full (or greater) power supplied at all times. This has nothing to do with Intel or AMD, its how CPU power management works. You may not like it, but its true. Also, who cares if Cool and Quiet works. No one really looks at it any more anyway. AMD actually opened up their BIOS substantially with the Ryzen series so enthusiasts could tweak till their hearts content. Also, you haven't said which CPU you're using. Most Ryzen CPUs enable simple multiplier overclocking, but its up to the silicon lottery to see how fast your CPU will go. You only need to change multiplier in Ryzen Master software and test each setting. Its simple, and you needn't overcomplicate things with all the other settings. Hardcore overclockers get into all the settings (C6, C1E, Global P States, C&Q, and others) to get every last Mhz out of their system. But only real tweakers or competitors actually care that much. Regular people who plan on using their systems use the tools the motherboard manufacturers and AMD/Intel give them in most cases. As an engineer in the computer industry since the 1980s, and who's built computers with just about every part imaginable, as well as overclocked with everything from voltage mods, liquid and gas cooling, delidding and many other hairbrained schemes, it really doesn't matter in the long run. Use the provided tools, they'll save you massive heartache and frustration. And they work fine |