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Topic: X370 Pro Gaming TestBetaBIOS 5.24 missing options
Posted By: PinetreeRoad
Subject: X370 Pro Gaming TestBetaBIOS 5.24 missing options
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2019 at 10:08am
I just installed the latest test BIOS from JZelectronic for my board and it's missing tons of options that existed in previous versions. I realize its a test BIOS but i'm wondering if this is on purpose or if i messed something up?

I made sure i have the latest chipset drivers and cleared CMOS before updating the BIOS.

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Posted By: Ray62
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2019 at 3:45pm
As you see, it is not only a beta, it is a *test* beta bios, probably for testing something like a special feature.
Ask JZ for what this bios is for.
You only should use this bios, if you want to test this!
Otherwise, update/downgrade to the latest, official released bios from Asrock.

BTW: Maybe the missing options are moved and/or have a dependency to a higher level enable/disabled option

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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2019 at 4:21pm
What is missing in AGESA 1001?

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Posted By: PinetreeRoad
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2019 at 5:56pm
The PBO menu is almost empty, and there are tons of missing CBS options. I can share a pic if you'd like. I haven't tried rolling back as i would like to test out the new BIOS, but if i'm able to roll back i can share a pic of the differences if it helps.

I see other boards have updates with "fix PBO" which is the reason i posted this.

Also could you check the BCLK generator because it seems like it's never worked on this board.

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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2019 at 7:47pm
We work on it

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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2019 at 7:54pm
is coming

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Posted By: PinetreeRoad
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2019 at 11:26pm
Thank you

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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2019 at 2:28pm
L5.25 TestBetaBIOS is online

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Posted By: PinetreeRoad
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2019 at 3:00pm
Thank you for the update, however BIOS flash says "Invalid File!"

I cannot rollback to 5.10 either

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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2019 at 3:23pm
We check again

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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2019 at 3:39pm
1. P5.10 Win Downgrade
asrock.pc.cdn.bitgravity.com/BIOS/AM4/X370%20Professional%20Gaming(5.10)WIN.zip

2. Then Flash L5.25

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Posted By: PinetreeRoad
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2019 at 5:37pm
Thank you, i appreciate you taking the time to help me. That worked for the rollback. The bios version in ASROM.ini needed to be changed to "L5.24" instead of "P4.40" to allow permission. Was probably just the "L" that threw it off.

Unfortunately L5.25 is still missing lots of options in the PBO and CBS menus. I will roll back to 5.10 again and screenshot the menus.

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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2019 at 5:48pm
See Video

https://youtu.be/ybj3XkteX9k

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Posted By: PinetreeRoad
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2019 at 6:27pm
The video was not necessary, but thank you

Here is the issue

P5.10 PBS


P5.10 CBS


L5.25 PBS


L5.25 CBS


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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2019 at 8:07pm
Many old features are no longer needed in AGESA 1001

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Posted By: PinetreeRoad
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2019 at 8:43am
I was not expecting features to be removed.

BIOS PSP toggle is missing, which i think an important option to be exposed because of undiscovered hardware exploits. I have kept PSP disabled since Spectre/Meltdown. PSP can't be exploited if it's turned off, is the theory.

External BCLK generator is not available, this is a feature of the board listed on the product page. I would like to use it if it ever gets fixed properly.

There are also CBS options that are relevant to RAM overclocking that are no longer exposed in BIOS.

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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2019 at 3:02pm
It has little to do with ASRock, but the AGESA code comes from AMD and many features are indeed CPU Type switched.

We have BCLK in the standard "OC Tweaker"

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JZ

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Posted By: xhue
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2019 at 3:10pm
PSP is a big issue. Their security through obscurity proved to be a disaster times and again.

I too would like to have a PSP toggle switch, but let me tell you why I will keep it ON.

Unless you are using an air-gapped machine with strict physical access, you need some sort of TPM. And here is the problem - you can either use an external TPM chip (which the mobo doesn't have a header for), or use AMD's fTPM (which is part of PSP).

Recently leaked NSA tools are already being used by people around the world to reverse-engineer the PSP and other low-level systems. Hopefully we will get a hardened, backdoor-free platforms soon enough.


Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2019 at 5:20pm
Let's see what's going on at AGESA 1001 with the "BIOS PSP Support".

Answer soon.

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Posted By: J Z
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2019 at 5:22pm
After checking, the reason is that AMD remove this option with Agesa code 1.0.0.1
ASRock does not remove it.
So, we cannot add it back due to this option does not exist in primitive AMD Agesa 1.0.0.1 code.

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Posted By: sdtyler78
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 6:57am
to bad none of the newer bioses since 2.30 support windows 7 , kinda funny all of a sudden from 2.40 windows 7 crashes alot of pci.sys error


Posted By: PinetreeRoad
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 12:47am
I finally got some free time to play with my BIOS this week. I am experiencing lots of issues with the latest 5.30 BIOS. I understand if AMD is removing options, but ASRock needs to take the initiative and better optimize BIOSes for their boards.

RAM overclocking has been gimped. BGS Alt was added but everything else relating to RAM OCing is now removed. Core/Thread enable has been gimped. Ie: 3+3, 4+0 core options don't exist. The list goes on. This BIOS update is a HUGE downgrade in general. It should have never been released as "stable" in this state. If AMD removed stuff, talk to them about adding it back. This is unacceptable. The release BIOS for this board had more functionality on day 1 of Ryzen 1st gen, than it does on release of Ryzen 3rd gen. I am updating my BIOS for security reasons, and I shouldn't be punished for keeping my system up-to date. It's 2019, updating firmware/software shouldn't be a big deal anymore.

There is a list of features that are listed on my boards Specs that are no longer available in BIOS. Basic features like "Hyper BCLK Engine II" are missing.

I updated to the 5.30 BIOS on Tuesday, and immediately after applying the BIOS update Windows could not boot due to "NTLDR is missing". I was eventually able to get Windows to boot, but SFC was still finding files it was unable to repair. After hours of troubleshooting I realized that I could not repair Windows and was forced to completely reinstall Windows yesterday. If this long post didn't make it clear, I'm still pretty mad about it.

This is supposed to be a high end board. With the release of the latest BIOS it might as well be a B350 board now. I don't know who you need to talk to about this, but somebody need to get on it. This is the last straw for me, this board has been nothing but a pain in my ass since I got it. While reinstalling Windows I came to the conclusion that I will never buy another ASRock product because this "high end" board still feels half baked. Isn't this board supposed to be one of your best products? If this is one of ASRock's best I can't imagine your worst. It's been years and this board is still filled with BIOS bugs. Like if you don't apply XMP then reboot before changing CPU multipliers the board will fail to boot. That is just one bug that has existed since day 1. Clear CMOS doesn't actually clear the CMOS anymore, it partially clears it. WTF is going on with this board?

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Posted By: xhue
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 2:43am
OK, I know the following won't make you all happy but I feel like saying it anyway.

Most users will find it hard to believe, but it was the same story when Zen launched. It was exactly the same story when Zen+ launched, along with the 400-series chipsets. Guess what is different now?

Most of you don't know me on this forum, but let me tell you this - I've been there myself. I've raged more than the most of you combined. I learned 1 thing - patience.

You won't get flawwless BIOS, mobos, chipsets and CPU from day 1. The technical challenges for the engineers are enormous and the marketing push for early launch isn't helping either.

Bottm line is patience. You will get there sooner or later.


Posted By: Tupeie
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 9:34am
Most likely microsoft holding amd/asrock by the nut's to make everyone one hop on malware10



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