Upgrading a X370 Fatality Professional Gaming
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Topic: Upgrading a X370 Fatality Professional Gaming
Posted By: brucer
Subject: Upgrading a X370 Fatality Professional Gaming
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2019 at 4:53am
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I have a x370 fatality professional gaming motherboard with a ryzen 1700, and currently running 3000mhz memory... I would like to upgrade to a ryzen 3000 series cpu, what should I be considering.. I'm either looking at the 3700x or 3800x when its available, are these viable choices for the x370? The memory I'm currently running is 3000mhz and would like to get up to 3200mhz memory, I dont want to use the higher priced flare-x memory, simply because its overpriced.. What other 3200mhz memory would be a good choice for my motherboard? ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
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Posted By: Ray62
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2019 at 5:34am
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If you want to update with a 3000 CPU, wait for a bios with ComboAM4 1.0.0.3 or higher. And with your Ryzen 1700, don't go higher as 5.10, better stay with 3.10 Lousy memory support on this board? It is just the same as with every Ryzen board! You will not get high and stable RAM clocks out of the box. A good place for infos (Taichi is almost the same as the Fatality x370 Professional Gaming): https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1627407-asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread-539.html And for general regarding RAM: https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-new-dram-calculator-ryzena-1-5-1-overclocking-dram-am4-membench-0-7-dram-bench.html ------------- Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming Offline Under test: MSI X570_MEG_ACE | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | Scythe Mugen5 | 2x16GB F4-3200C14D-32GTZ@3466 | ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE |
Posted By: PeterCxy
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2019 at 9:09am
| do NOT even try to boot Ryzen 3000 on current older generation boards without a AGESA 1.0.0.3 update with memory clocks any higher than 2133MHz. It won't even POST -- even if your memory works at 2400MHz out-of-the-box without XMP. |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 12:56am
Why wouldnt it post? I'm running bios 5.3 and 2933mhz memory with 15-15-15-35 timings with xmp profile 1 default settings. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
PeterCxy wrote:Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 1:59am
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also.. just did a search on 3dmark for Ryzen 3800x and there is a guy using a 3800x,Taichi X370 and 3200mhz memory in the top 15 on 3dmark Timespy.. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 2:42am
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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7802898 ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 2:55am
I see the 1003a/b bios is out for the Taichi, but not for Asrock's FLAGSHIP x370 board the Fatality X370 Professional Gaming.. plus Asrock has the 3800x listed as compatible with the x370 professional gaming.. Is this just Asrock being lazy or slow? ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: Ray62
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 4:00am
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@brucer: Because there are much more Taichi X370 user, they (only) get the beta bios versions (or even ealier)... ------------- Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming Offline Under test: MSI X570_MEG_ACE | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | Scythe Mugen5 | 2x16GB F4-3200C14D-32GTZ@3466 | ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 2:22pm
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and that is why I'll never buy another asrock product.. their bios revisions are the slowest in the industry.. Ridiculous for the top tier x370 board. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: Ray62
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 4:01pm
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Faster as expected ;-) X370 Professional Gaming - JZ BetaBIOS 5.61 1. Update Microcode AMD AGESA Combo-AM4 1.0.0.3 https://shop.jzelectronic.de/news.php?id=1563435396&sw= ------------- Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming Offline Under test: MSI X570_MEG_ACE | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | Scythe Mugen5 | 2x16GB F4-3200C14D-32GTZ@3466 | ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE |
Posted By: Diizzel
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 4:07pm
| Why these beta bios aren't available from asrock own sites? And is there one for b350 fatality itx? Kinda frustrating to wait 10min and hard reset computer few times to even get to bios. |
Posted By: Ray62
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 4:12pm
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I don't know. Without this support from jzelectronic.de the Asrock world would be much poorer... ------------- Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming Offline Under test: MSI X570_MEG_ACE | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | Scythe Mugen5 | 2x16GB F4-3200C14D-32GTZ@3466 | ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE |
Posted By: Vakich
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2019 at 5:53pm
| So the BIOS problem concerns both b350/450 and x370/x470? I cant even post with ryzen 3600 on AB350 Pro 4 |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 12:13am
Did you do it at default bios settings? The guy at asrock said as another poster above said, is to only boot up at 2133mhz memory settings but he said the x370 professional gaming would boot up.. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 12:44am
Have these been tested to work and not brick boards? ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: Vakich
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 3:59am
Yes. I tried many variants. CMOS reset, switching another memory, using only 1 stick of memory, disabled m.2 ssd, disabled Reset SW cable, switched to another videocard. More then that i even tried manually set ram speed to 2133 on both sticks of different memory using ryzen 1600. Once you install ryzen 3600 and nothing happens. Very very very sad for Asrock. |
Posted By: Ray62
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 2:06pm
It is the same as Taichi X370 Beta Bios L5.61 with Combo-AM4 1.0.0.3 If you fear to brick the board, you anyway should not try to use the board with a new Ryzen until Asrock comes with the total final bios version and some users are saying: "Yes, everything is running fine" ------------- Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming Offline Under test: MSI X570_MEG_ACE | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | Scythe Mugen5 | 2x16GB F4-3200C14D-32GTZ@3466 | ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 9:10pm
I'll give it a try when my 3800x gets here. I'm currently on bios 5.3 and everything works as it should with 2933mhz memory. The Asrock technician said the 3800x would boot up fine on 5.3, but it would only boot with memory at 2133mhz frequency.. Thanks. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: wenerikk
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2019 at 1:16am
My x470 mobo works with 3000mhz. Somewhere in Reddit I saw suggestion about infinity fabric clocks, for now only 1500mhz is stable...I do not know all correlations of the system but guess that infinity fabric clock speed is half from RAM speed, so 3000/2 = 1500mhz match with my settings. |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 1:24am
yes, its double data rate memory ie:DDR, and the infinity fabric runs at native speed. which if youre running 3000mhz memory you'd see 1500mhz on the infinity fabric... That's why they say the lowest latency and 3600mhz memory is the best to run on Ryzen 3000.. 3200mhz and 14cl would be a good base supposedly Im running 3000mhz (2933actual) at 15-15-15-36or35 so i might see a 2 or 3 fps loss from 3200mhz 14cl memory, but I could never get the Flare-X 14 cas latency memory to boot on my board, no matter what I tried it was never stable. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: Conraire
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 9:59am
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Well, I'm running a 3800X on my ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional gaming, with bios 5.30 Agesa 1.0.0.1. But, the caveat here, is I'm having stability issues. The system posts and boots just fine, even with memory set to 3200mhz xmp profile. G. Skill Flare X DDR4 3200 cas14. But, core voltages in Ryzen Master, and HWinfo64 are peaking at 1.5v. Which seems a tad high. I tried offsetting the voltage by -.100 but was getting more frequent blue screens. Granted, not that I'm not already doing that... Hopefully ASRock can get the new bios's out soon ------------- https://valid.x86.fr/r12tls" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Zwu
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 2:40pm
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hi, i'm running ryzen 3600 on my x370 gaming k4 with latest 1001 agesa bios it runs, and is stable. but it seems something is odd. base clock is 3.6ghz but it's running almost permanently on 4200 @ 1.38V allcore even at 5% cpu usage. at heavy load it boosts lower 4175 allcore - lol i have my gflareX at 3200mhz currently. but not ramtest stable. there may be room for more improvement with 1003 agesa with energy management ------------- 
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Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 10:32pm
I've updated to the 5.61 beta bios and have it working.. I'm running an all core overclock of 4.4ghz at 1.3925 vcore, memory is running at its rated 3000mhz 16-16-16-35.... One thing I have noticed at default settings the cpu is not getting to its advertised boost clocks.. It will only boost to 4.375ghz, should be hitting 4.5ghz.. I'm running a Cryorig H5u air cooler, temps dont get over 52c running four cinebench r20 runs continuously.. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 10:50pm
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I know I'll never buy another Asrock Amd board.. Its been the worst board as far as consistency,memory compatibility and timely bios updates goes than any board I've ever dealt with.. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 11:10pm
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I hate new Ryzen launches, love the new CPUs but all the headaches that come with every single new launch just gets to be too much. Here I go again needing to explain how BIOS updates work: 1. The Chipset vendor makes changes (AMD/Intel) 2. They update their core BIOS code (AGESA in the case of AMD) 3. This is given to motherboard manufacturers 4. Manufacturers tweak and adjust this to suit their individual products 5. This is then tested 6. You get a BIOS update when all checks out on the hardware tested 7. Bugs may be found on certain hardware combinations that were not tested I am not defending or attacking ASRock, AMD or anyone else here but the BIOS update process is contingent on numerous factors, board partners (those that make motherboards for AMD or Intel chipsets) can't pull a BIOS update out of thin air, much of the code is proprietary to the vendor (AMD/Intel). I can assure you, all board partners are experiencing the same issues with AMDs, as usual, less than ready for prime time AGESA code. AMD is working with it's board partners to resolve these issues. Bare in mind they thought they had already worked it all out before launch but as usual failed to test with enough different hardware combinations and varied testing scenarios. They also pulled a fast one in leaving Ryzen 3000 series support on older AM4 boards up to the board partners. Again, not bashing AMD here, they clearly have not worked out the kinks in their launch cycle yet but they get there in the end and the value is clearly there to make it worth the wait. Don't let early adoption teething issues make you resent your purchase (not just talking ASRock here). I wouldn't be a moderator here if I thought ASRock's products were substandard. ASRock certainly has it's issues but overall, I still stand by their products. That is saying a lot considering I have weathered 3 Ryzen launches now, each one wreaking havoc on early adopters nerves. Hang in there, the issues will be ironed out. ------------- 
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Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2019 at 3:29am
So where is Asrock's bios for Ryzen3000 and the x370 Professional Gaming? I had to get a bios from a computer sales website from Denmark.. Nothing is posted on Asrocks website and its been 2 1/2 weeks since the new Ryzen launch.. That is completely unacceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2019 at 3:34am
I've been hanging in here since the first gen Ryzen launch and IT HAS NOT GOTTTEN ANY BETTER. If the memory compatibility issues still exists when I put in these 3400mhz sticks in I'm receiving tomorrow I'm going to buy a Gigabyte board and break this $250 board over my knee and throw it in the garbage. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |
Posted By: xhue
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2019 at 3:45am
Been there, done that. Believe me, it's not worth it. Better wait, crack open a cold one. They will fix it eventually. |
Posted By: brucer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2019 at 3:46am
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too add... I will not run memory rated at 3200,3400 or 3600 at 2133mhz to appease Asrock's complete failure.. ------------- Asrock x570 Taichi, Ryzen3800x, 32gb Gskill Royal 36000mhz@ 3733mhz, Samsung 250gb 970evo plus for OS drive, Sabrent Rocket 1tb nvme storage drive. |