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Topic: Ryzen 3000 series support
Posted By: Xaltar
Subject: Ryzen 3000 series support
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 3:30pm
Guys, I am seeing a lot of complaints about Ryzen 3000 series support and associated BIOS versions.

Please be aware that these issues are platform wide and not specific to any one manufacturer. Rest assured both AMD and it's board partners are working hard to resolve these issues as swiftly as possible.

Please feel free to post your issues below, I will forward common issues to my contacts at ASRock on the off chance they are not already aware of them. Please keep things friendly and try to remain calm, everyone on these forums is either here for help or doing their best to provide it.

Thank you

Xaltar

Quote Edit:

JZ (many thanks to him for all his efforts) has uploaded and organized a fair number of beta BIOS updates for numerous AM4 boards here:

https://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php

Please bare in mind, these are betas and ASRock is not responsible for any damage caused in using them. These are provided as is for users to test with should they be so inclined.

That said, provided users follow proper update procedures the risk should be no greater than official BIOS releases. Just please be sure to read the instructions properly on your board's BIOS download page, taking care to update in the correct order (bridge BIOS where necessary etc).

Should you experience a bad flash and brick your board, please contact ASRock Tech Support here:

https://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp



I would also like to thank everyone participating in this thread for the time and effort they have put in, not only sharing their issues but also helping out fellow users, this is exactly the kind of community we want to foster here on these forums

AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB BIOS betas are up:

https://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=BIOS



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Replies:
Posted By: Ironchunk
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 5:16pm
Can Asrock provide the official bios with 1.0.0.2AB agesa to the X470/B450 platforms?

For example there are floating beta bios's with agesa 1.0.0.2AB arround for X470 Taichi, which seems to improve memory compability.



Posted By: Robtech
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 5:40pm
Asrock B450M Steel Legend.

My NVME drive worked fine after I built my PC and installed Windows (on to a brand new board with a Ryzen 3600). After turning off the PC, the drive disappeared from the BIOS on the next boot. I tried a whole heap of things to try and get it to work but no go. After adding a SATA SSD, for some reason the M.2 drive showed up again. Then it disappeared after powering off.

Installed Beta BIOS. Does not fix the issue.

Board is also very slow to POST. To get to the ASRock screen can take up to 18 seconds.


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by Ironchunk Ironchunk wrote:

Can Asrock provide the official bios with 1.0.0.2AB agesa to the X470/B450 platforms?

For example there are floating beta bios's with agesa 1.0.0.2AB arround for X470 Taichi, which seems to improve memory compability.



This thread is to report issues only. I do not work at ASRock and so cannot provide BIOS updates etc. This thread is here for users to report common issues so I can pass them along to my contacts at ASRock. JZ works closely with ASRock in BIOS testing and has already provided several links to the beta BIOSes he has tested, like myself however, he is not an ASRock employee. On these forums, only members of the "ASRock Official" group represent and can speak for ASRock.

BIOS updates will be made available when they are ready for release, ASRock has been stung in the past by rushing out new releases and has of late taken a more cautious approach. I strongly approve of them taking their time and getting it right, it is by far preferable to bricking systems and causing more problems than they fix. As I stated in my OP, AMD is working with all their board partners at the moment to get these issues resolved, no manufacturer can correct these issues alone, they require AMD's AGESA updates.

This has been the way of things with Ryzen since first gen launched. We early adopters pay a price for buying in early. We need to exercise patience and do our best to report issues as we discover them in an effort to help the process along.

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Posted By: Vakich
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 6:37pm
Originally posted by Ironchunk Ironchunk wrote:

Can Asrock provide the official bios with 1.0.0.2AB agesa to the X470/B450 platforms?

For example there are floating beta bios's with agesa 1.0.0.2AB arround for X470 Taichi, which seems to improve memory compability.


Latest agesa is 1.0.0.3AB

Asrock AB350 Pro 4. PC doesn't boot with latest bios 5.80 and Ryzen 3600. No problems with Ryzen 1600.


Posted By: ljt
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 7:33pm
Motherboard: X370 Taichi
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x
BIOS: 5.61 (Beta)

First bug I've noticed is the boost (specifically single core) does not seem to reach 4.4Ghz. I get about 4.35/4.375Ghz on one or two cores, the rest seem to top out at 4.3Ghz (when the scheduler moves the 1 thread workload around the different cores)

When I was on the 5.60 BIOS, i commonly saw 4.4Ghz on all cores at some point, but that BIOS was really buggy in regards to RAM speed. Hence me trying this beta 5.61.


Posted By: gnkleus
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 8:01pm
Can Asrock provide please Latest agesa is 1.0.0.3AB for Taichi x570, please? I have to use BETA BIOS 1.41 because of 3900x performance issues with turbo boost. Without this fixes it is not ideal MoBo. 3900x works better with my ASUS strix470-F and it cost HALF OF price than 570X TAICHI MOBO


Posted By: Xcomp666
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 12:12am
Same here!

I just bought a Ryzen 7 3700X last week. I was so happy until updated my Asrock Fatal1ty B450 Gameing itx bios to 3.30. My M.2 driver disappeared, Memory frequency can?�t get over 2133 ghz, system unstable( rebooting all the time). If Asrock does?�t fix it until tomorrow. I am going to buy an Auros x570 itx when became available on Newegg again. What lazy customer service!!


System specs:
Asrock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming itx/Ac
Bios version: 3.30
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
Memory: F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
SSD: Samsung 860 EVO M.2
GPU: GTX EVGA 1070 TI OC



Posted By: Monstro
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 12:19am
Asrock Taichi x370
Bios 5.60

XMP memory profile sets RAM to 3200mhz and instroduces noise distorcion/interference to sound. From any source, either onboard or external dac/amp.

When left everything in Auto and manually set the speed till a maximum of 3133mhz all stays normal again.

Since I'm clueless about this kinda of stuff, everything is on auto. Including timings and voltages.

Before upgrading to a 3600x and upgrading the bios from 3.20 I had no issues at all and RAM speeds were 3200mhz stable while using the XMP profile.


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 2:08am
Xcomp666, the issues you describe are common across all manufacturers and not specific to ASRock. The reason for this is issues with AMD's AGESA code (the core of the BIOS that they provide board partners). I can understand you are angry, it is never pleasant spending money on things that don't work right out of the box. Pleas be patient, as I have said numerous times in this thread and here on the forums, AMD and ALL board partners are working to resolve these issues. Updates and fixes will be made available as soon as they are ready.

Until then, all we can do is be patient, it sucks but there is nothing any of us can do about it so lets try stay calm and do our best to support each other as a forum community

For what it's worth, your issues are known about and are among the issues currently being worked on by AMD and it's board partners.

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Posted By: Bred
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 8:12am
Hello :)

Problems found on :

MB : Asrock B450M Steel Legend
CPU : 3600X (replacing ryzen 3 1200)
Bios : 2.30

DDR4 kit tested :

1) Corsair vengeance RGB 2x8Go (CMR16GX4M2C3000C15W) - 3000Mhz C15
2) Ballistix sport 2x8Go (BL82K8G4D30AE8BK) - 3000Mhz C15


With the last bios 2.30, none of these two DDR4 kit work at XMP frequencies anymore, the first kit works now at 2133Mhz and the second at 2400Mhz ... manually settings or XMP profile don't applicate.

With the previous bios I do not have these problems if I remember well and on my MB asus prime X370-pro (bios 5008) + ryzen 5 1600 I don't have issues..

I bought recently this kit :

3) G.Skill 2x8Go 3600Mhz (16-16-16-36) Trident Z K2 (F4-3600C16D-16GTZKW
hope it will work better



Thx


Posted By: neaguali
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 4:19pm
Originally posted by ljt ljt wrote:

Motherboard: X370 Taichi
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x
BIOS: 5.61 (Beta)


From where have you downloaded 5.61 beta bios?

I also have x370 Taichi but with an R9 3900x and I have several problems with the current bios, 5.60:
- boot loop if I disable SMT.
- memory passes all tests memtest86(4 passes), GSAT (Google Stress Application Test) but I receive BSOD in Windows when idle (whea uncorrectable error).

I'm not sure if this is releated to the Nvidia bug or the buggy bios. At this moment I would try any bios.


Posted By: gizmic
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 4:37pm
as mentioned abovein JZ's site
https://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php

to date there are only 9 1.0.0.3AB betas out

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Posted By: Vakich
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by gizmic gizmic wrote:

as mentioned abovein JZ's site
https://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php

to date there are only 9 1.0.0.3AB betas out

no beta for ab350 pro 4


Posted By: KungFuSpaghetti
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2019 at 1:14am
Motherboard: X470 Taichi
CPU: Ryzen 7 3900x
BIOS: 3.40 & 3.43

Same issue with both of the above bios, xmp causes bsod, reboots and hard locks.
Version 3.43 was actually worse as it gives WHEA bsod errors even with ram running non xmp profiles.

Currently using 3.40 with ram at 2400mhz AMD perfectly stable.


Posted By: ThreeDee
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2019 at 10:21am
Motherboard: X470 Master SLI/ac
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x
BIOS: 3.30
Memory: 4x8GB V-Color Skywalker Prism RGB 3200 @ 3200

Running great with all 4 dimms populated at their rated speeds. My only complaint is that it's a bit slow on the booting side of things. I have an older Dell 6240 that boots waaaaay faster than my desktop does. At least twice as fast in fact.

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|Ryzen 5 5900|ASRock X570 Taichi-BIOS 4.60|2x16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200@3600 1:1 IF|ASRock RX 6700XT|2 x PCIe 4.0 M.2 Drives for OS & Games|850 WTT Seasonic 80+ Titanium PSU|Noctua NH-D15|


Posted By: cerror
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2019 at 1:01pm
Motherboard: B450 Fatal1ty Gaming ITX/ac
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
Bios: 3.41 (beta)
Memory: 2 x 16GGB (G.Skill Aegis F4-3000C16D-32GISB)

Every reboot a short bootloop, bios settings back to default.
Sometimes boots to windows, sometimes fans go to 100% speed.


Posted By: BillDoor
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2019 at 10:43pm
Motherboard: B450 Fatal1ty Gaming ITX/ac
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
Bios: 3.41 (beta)
Memory: 2 x 16GGB (Samsung M391A2K43BB1-CRC)
GPU: AMD Radeon RX5700

Every time I want to safe a setting in the BIOS, screen goes black, fans to 100% and nothing happens any more (tested for 1hr).


Posted By: writer21
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2019 at 11:58pm
I have just two issues with the beta bios 3.46.

First when I go to restart pc from desktop the pc shuts off then turns on instead of a soft reboot.

Two is when in windows and the pc just sits my voltage seems to be high. Unlike my 2700x on same board the voltage would drop to .800v and idle.

Everything is pretty much stock and I'm not using pbo. Running xmp profile with 3600 cl16 ram.


Posted By: writer21
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 12:00am
Motherboard: X470 taichi
CPU: Ryzen 9 3900x
BIOS: 3.46
Memory: 2x8GB Gskill Trident 3600@ cl16.


Posted By: Xcomp666
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 1:00am
Hey Guys ! Where can I find those beta bios for B450 Fatal1ty Gaming ITX/ac?
Asrock CS did not reply any email !!!


Posted By: mrxt1
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 2:48am
Do you hava an ability to do a full copy of bios file from the chip using an external programmer?


Posted By: Vakich
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2019 at 2:48pm
Asrock AB350 Pro 4

Mine Ryzen 3600 processor turned up to be broken. Tried to boot it with many others motherboards like asus, gigabyte and msi with latest bios and no luck. So i am sorry to say that it was Asrock problem that my processor didn't boot.


Posted By: keyvankr
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2019 at 4:57am
not only was it not working with P3.30 Asrock Fatality B450 Gaming-ITX/AC which I had to bypass by using a M.2 to USB sata adapter, now with P3.40 nothing even works...if hardware is going to be like games nowadays (unfinished & untested), then I won't be buying it day one. Thanks for steering me away from ANYTHING related to this brand. How a multi million dollar company manages to have such poor QA (not even once, but twice so there's no "bad luck") is beyond me.
quote from the booklet:
"My vision for Ftal1ty hardware is to allow gamers to focus on the game without worrying about their equipment, something I've preached since I began competing. I don't want to worry about my equipment. I want to be there - over and done with- so I can focus on the game. I want to be the fatest and most stable computer equipment on the face of the planet, so quality is what Fatal1ty Brand products represent.
queue the "curb your enthusiasm" song


Posted By: Evil Genius
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2019 at 8:41pm
I'm running a 3700x on an X370 Killer SLI with BIOS 5.40 and 4x 4GB DDR4-2133 ECC. As I'm having trouble with Prime95 crashing, I'm trying out some BIOS settings to see if they have a positive effect.

When I disable SMT, the board no longer boots. I have to clear the CMOS to get it to boot again, which it will after some crashes in the BIOS.

Could some of you Asrock guys investigate?


Posted By: Bred
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 12:59am
Originally posted by Bred Bred wrote:

Hello :)

Problems found on :

MB : Asrock B450M Steel Legend
CPU : 3600X (replacing ryzen 3 1200)
Bios : 2.30

DDR4 kit tested :

1) Corsair vengeance RGB 2x8Go (CMR16GX4M2C3000C15W) - 3000Mhz C15
2) Ballistix sport 2x8Go (BL82K8G4D30AE8BK) - 3000Mhz C15


With the last bios 2.30, none of these two DDR4 kit work at XMP frequencies anymore, the first kit works now at 2133Mhz and the second at 2400Mhz ... manually settings or XMP profile don't applicate.

With the previous bios I do not have these problems if I remember well and on my MB asus prime X370-pro (bios 5008) + ryzen 5 1600 I don't have issues..

I bought recently this kit :

3) G.Skill 2x8Go 3600Mhz (16-16-16-36) Trident Z K2 (F4-3600C16D-16GTZKW
hope it will work better



Thx


Hello again.

It seems the last bios released recently (2.50) fixed the XMP settings, one of the two memory kit mentionned before (the corsair) works again at XMP frequencies (3000Mhz).

I've not received yet my new kit, and not tested the second kit^^.


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 1:32am
Things are coming along, it just takes time. Unfortunately there are multiple stages in getting a BIOS update out the door, even just as a Beta. There are so many hardware configurations to test and every one of them needs to be tested in multiples of 3 (once on each Ryzen CPU generation) on each and every board from the 300 series and up. I do not envy the people working on testing, even only testing say 5 different RAM kits on each config and say 3 different NVMe/M.2 drives thats 24 tests per board minimum that need to be repeated with each and every BIOS change/tweak.

ASRock is on it however and won't quit till they get things sorted for us.

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Posted By: frenchyaz
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 2:43am
X470 with BIOS 3.50 XMP setting for Crucial 3600 is working again (former 3.43 BIOS was bringing them to 2133MHz using 3700X Ryzen).

However I populated the board with:
Highpoint 2720SGL
NC364 HP quad nic
Video card

And the board POST, restart, POST, restart, POST, restart and POST then loads Windows. I didn't change the settings, just updated the BIOS. Using a 2700 on this one.


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Frenchyaz


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2019 at 9:30pm
Hi

ASROCK B450 ITX here (P3.40 bios) + 3700X here.

The main issue I have with my rig is that I can't wake up my PC from sleep (after a few minutes of entering sleep mode). And many times I can't POST/BOOT from cold boot as well.


How to replicate this:

- Put PC to sleep (alternatively you can shutdown windows disabling fast "start-up")
- Wait 10-15 minutes
- Wake it up (e.g. by pressing a key of the USB keyboard)
- PC wakes up, screen is black, PC goes back to sleep after a few seconds.

How to escape from this state:
- Turn off the PC and/or turn off the Power Supply
- Turn on the PC
- PC starts boot looping (still no screen), after 1 to 20 minutes boot looping or trying to boot, PC boots (with UEFI default settings) and works perfectly all the time, until the next Windows shutdown or sleep.

Workaround:
Disable sleep. (note that PC consumes 50-65W in idle, versus 2W in sleep state).







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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 1:31am
Thanks Sebastainer, is this a fresh OS install or did you upgrade the CPU and keep the original OS? There are significant architectural differences between gen 2 and gen 3 Ryzen that could be causing sleep issues. I would try a fresh OS install (on a spare drive if you have one) and see if the issue persists.

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Posted By: a1b2c3
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 9:40am
Using the 3.50 BIOS on an X470 Taichi, with a Ryzen 3600x, I am running into a lot of issues. Quite often when rebooting, Windows 10 will tell me that it's missing part of the kernel, or it has to go to repair mode, or the UEFI checksum does not match. The only way out of this is to reboot, go into UEFI, save changes (after making no changes) and reboot again. Weird things seem to cause this - trying to boot off of a USB drive (I was trying to install Ubuntu to a separate SSD), running Prime95 for an hour totally stable and then rebooting.

Anyone else see something similar?


Posted By: Bred
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 11:00am
Here, I got some issue too.
Recently I bought a ryzen 5 3600X for my B450M Steel Legend (the system was built and windows was installed with a ryzen 3 1200.. (maybe it can explain some of the issues?) and these 2-3 last days I had blue screen issue, internet navigator issues and one time the same kind of problem that a1b2c3 : after boot, impossible to load with a screen telling me recuperation, your computer must be repaired because the core ("noyau" in french) is missing or contains errors...

And after I check the bios and verified the SSD was still detected, I could run windows correctly..

After that I saw that asrock removed a drivers for my motherboard form the drivers list, the file of AMD AllIn1 (v19.xx.xx.xx) and let the old one the v18.50.16.01..

So today I unistalled v19... and installed again the old one, and for the time beeing, my computer seems to operate better..

Sorry i'm french and make some mistakes.


Posted By: Daveydguk
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 3:04pm
Updated b450 fatal1ty itx to bios 3.40.

Still getting issues booting.

Are there any new beta versions available to test ?


Posted By: Synoche
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 4:12pm
Hello i also get a problem with the new 3.30 bios for x470 taichi ultimate. Cpu is a 2600. After bios Upgrade i cant boot a single ssd. Neither linux nor win 10. I dont have any clue why because i have even a newer version of the chipset driver then recommended. Hopefully you have an idea.


Posted By: Ray62
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 5:24pm
Originally posted by Synoche Synoche wrote:

Hello i also get a problem with the new 3.30 bios for x470 taichi ultimate. Cpu is a 2600. After bios Upgrade i cant boot a single ssd. Neither linux nor win 10. I dont have any clue why because i have even a newer version of the chipset driver then recommended. Hopefully you have an idea.

Why the hell did you update to that 3.30 Bios? You have a 2600 and Bios 2.00 should be the best for this CPU.

But what do you mean with "i cant boot a single ssd"?
M2_1 with a NVME-M2 or SATA-M2 SSD?
M2_2 ...?
SATA port with an SATA SSD?

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Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming Offline
Under test:
MSI X570_MEG_ACE | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | Scythe Mugen5 | 2x16GB F4-3200C14D-32GTZ@3466 | ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE


Posted By: Synoche
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 7:15pm
I upgraded because i want to upgrade to 3900. Just simple sata ssds no fancy m2s.


Posted By: Ray62
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by Synoche Synoche wrote:

I upgraded because i want to upgrade to 3900. Just simple sata ssds no fancy m2s.

Ok, this is a known issue.

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Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming Offline
Under test:
MSI X570_MEG_ACE | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | Scythe Mugen5 | 2x16GB F4-3200C14D-32GTZ@3466 | ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE


Posted By: Synoche
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:45pm
Originally posted by Ray62 Ray62 wrote:

Originally posted by Synoche Synoche wrote:

I upgraded because i want to upgrade to 3900. Just simple sata ssds no fancy m2s.

Ok, this is a known issue.


Ok thanks for the answer. So i have to wait for a new bios i guess.


Posted By: Daveydguk
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 3:04am
Turned my pc on today
B450 itx, 3600 cpu, Rx 580.

It booted up from cold after leaving it alone. Previously I powered off again and again until boot.

Can we have bios which supports zen 3000 only and separate bios for zen 1000/2000 series.

If 16mb of bios memory is not enough to support all versions.


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 4:06am
Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

Thanks Sebastainer, is this a fresh OS install or did you upgrade the CPU and keep the original OS? There are significant architectural differences between gen 2 and gen 3 Ryzen that could be causing sleep issues. I would try a fresh OS install (on a spare drive if you have one) and see if the issue persists.


Hi Xaltar,

I bought this motherboard, installed a temporary Ryzen 5 1600, then upgraded to BIOS 3.30, installed clean Windows 10 and used the Ryzen 1600 for a week.

I didn't had these issues with the 1600.

After swapping the 1600 for a 3700X, first POST was really hard (let's call this "try to boot for the first time"), fan was turning on, and off, PC was turning on and off, like the Motherboard was trying hard to POST, until it finally did it and everything worked fine, booted windows 10, (installed AMD chipset drivers again, AMD guy told me to do this when swapping the CPU).

I can leave my PC 24/7 playing games etc without issues.

Now, if I sleep my PC, or I try to shutdown my PC, or I basically disconnect the PSU, then:

The motherboard, again, start to "kind of trying to boot the Ryzen 3700X" like if it was the first time, fans goes on, fans goes off, automatically restart a few times, until finally boot and the bios goes back to default (example: Fan speed changes from Custom curve, to Standard speed).


The easiest way to replicate my issue is to turn off the PC, turn off the PSU (disconnect the cable) and when I connect the PSU again. The motherboard has a hard time to POST.


I don't think this is related to Windows, because all these problem happens before even booting the NVME drive, before my USB keyboard is turned on (before keyboard light turn on) and also before the Display get a video signal from the motherboard.

I think I'm not the only one with this issue, some guy in Reddit with the same motherboard and I think CPU, told me that when he finally got a successful POST decided to leave his PC on 24/7 disabling sleep.

(Off topic: I also tried to clear my CMOS, tried the jumper, tried removing the battery for 10 minutes, without the PSU connected, etc. But my "profiles" are still there, they are not wiped, so I guess the CMOS clear is not working)).


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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 4:23am
P.S.: I also updated my Nvidia card bios with this tool: https://www.nvidia.com/object/nv-uefi-update-x64.html (because I use displayport with a g-sync monitor). but didn't helped.

And also updated my nvme ssd firmware to a recent one from July 23:
https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/support-ssd-p1

But didn't helped.

Basically every-time the PC lose the power, the next time I turn it on, motherboard will have a really hard time to do a POST and when it does, it loads default settings (fTPM turns off, FAN speed back to stock, boot priorities back to default, etc).
And this happen sometimes when I put the PC to sleep too, or when I shutdown Windows (without turning off the PSU).



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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: bleomycin
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 7:03am
X470 Taichi Ultimate
Bios: 3.30
CPU: 3700x

After update from 3.20 (which was working mostly fine it seems), motherboard is unable to save any changes. Every boot of the board has it stall and reset itself to defaults. Reverted back to 3.20 for now.


Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 8:31am
Sometimes it's just not worth it TBH. Here we have AMD say all next gen Ryzen CPU's will work on X470, X370, etc with a simple bios update but in the end it doesn't. This is I believe is the fault of Motherboard Vendors and AMD for not fully testing all CPU's with all motherboards that will support the next gen Ryzen CPUs. I have a x470 with a 2700x and I think the best thing to do is just buy a x570 board and be done with it. This is why I really don't give Intel any flack for not supporting older sockets. This is most likely the reason, because it never really works out in the end.

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x470 Taichi v4.70
5950x (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B)
G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14
970 Evo 1TB
EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 ULTRA
Sound Blaster AE-7
EVGA 850W Platinuim
LG WH16NS40
ASUS PG259QN


Posted By: KiF1rE
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 8:37am
Sebastioner I'm having the same boot problem. Every time power is lost it goes into that loop on power up.

I'm on an X470 master sli/ac

It's tough, as now basically the board resets all settings every powerup and they have to be reset every time.


Posted By: Synoche
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 12:47pm
Originally posted by bleomycin bleomycin wrote:

X470 Taichi Ultimate
Bios: 3.30
CPU: 3700x

After update from 3.20 (which was working mostly fine it seems), motherboard is unable to save any changes. Every boot of the board has it stall and reset itself to defaults. Reverted back to 3.20 for now.
you could downgrade with the old bios? I will try it after work today, if i can do the same. Thanks for the hint!


Posted By: Hans_Bethe
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 2:36pm

Hallo,

I build up a new System with an ASRock B450M Pro4 and a Ryzen 5 3600. I do have the same weired boot issues. BIOS 3.5 improved the situation and my computer was running just fine during the weekend (Every power on run into Windows 10 smoothly).

But this morning I switched on the PC and it took variose resets and repower cycles until the motherboard did POST and loaded Windows. One up and running the system is rock stable.

Please ASRock help and solve this via BIOS upgrade!

Hans

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ASRock B450M Pro4 BIOS 3.60
Ryzen 5 3600
Crucial P1 SSD NVMe in M.2 Ultra
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 DIMM CL16


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by KiF1rE KiF1rE wrote:

Sebastioner I'm having the same boot problem. Every time power is lost it goes into that loop on power up.

I'm on an X470 master sli/ac

It's tough, as now basically the board resets all settings every powerup and they have to be reset every time.


Hi,

Would you like to try removing the Reset SW connectors from the motherboard?

At least some guys with MSI motherboards are having better booting results removing that:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cdpjld/for_those_having_issues_with_no_post_as_stupid_as/


I won't be able to try this in my ASRock B450 ITX till Thursday when I'm back at home.

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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 9:14pm
I have updated the OP here:

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11976&PN=1&title=ryzen-3000-series-support

to include the link to JZ's extremely helpful BIOS download page.

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Posted By: af22
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 9:55pm
Hi, user of B450 Steel Legend here / with Ryzen 5 3600

Great work on the updated bios which solved the WHEA issues.

However it seems to have lost the feature to power on the system automatically?

The system used to power up upon switching on the power supply.

I believe the related option have been removed in the latest BIOS update.

Currently the option "Restore on AC/Power Loss" is set to "Power On" and Windows 10 Fast Restart has been disabled too.

Any other settings I can try within the BIOS or Windows 10?


Posted By: KGDorsidhion
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 10:01pm
Ok so im having booting issues where most of the time it takes a few tries, bios resets then it boots. Seem common right now so not too worried about that, also ram frequency issues, cant get to run at advertised speeds, seems common as well. Heres where i have some deviations, not sure if they are related to running a Ryzen 5 3600. RAM seems more stable and I can achieve higher frequency clocks on A1/B1. Had it running stable at 3000mhz. Ran IntelBurnTest on Maximum for 10 cycles no issue, Windows 10 built in memory diagnostic no issues. Memtestx86 threw 3 errors during test 13, the hammer test, but by my limited reading, that shouldnt be too much of a problem, correct me if im wrong. But heres the kicker, running the RAM in slots A2/B2 like recommended running at the same settings as previous I got 4 BSOD (all different error codes) within maybe 10 minutes and windows 10 memory diagnostic almost immediately threw a hardware issue. My second issue is I had W10 installed on a NVME SSD (SATA3, i believe) installed in slow M.2-2, once my bluescreens occured id get to the windows splash screen but windows would not load. tried repair, instantly fails. Am i looking at more than Ryzen 3000 compatibility issues or is it just that. Specs in signature, mobo and cpu are new as of Saturday 7/27

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B450M PRO4, RYZEN 5 3600, RTX 2060 SUPER, CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 3200 MHZ


Posted By: Synoche
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 11:54pm
my problem was solved with the bios downgrade to 3.20


Posted By: wenerikk
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 12:12am
Originally posted by KGDorsidhion KGDorsidhion wrote:

Ok so im having booting issues where most of the time it takes a few tries, bios resets then it boots. Seem common right now so not too worried about that, also ram frequency issues, cant get to run at advertised speeds, seems common as well. Heres where i have some deviations, not sure if they are related to running a Ryzen 5 3600. RAM seems more stable and I can achieve higher frequency clocks on A1/B1. Had it running stable at 3000mhz. Ran IntelBurnTest on Maximum for 10 cycles no issue, Windows 10 built in memory diagnostic no issues. Memtestx86 threw 3 errors during test 13, the hammer test, but by my limited reading, that shouldnt be too much of a problem, correct me if im wrong. But heres the kicker, running the RAM in slots A2/B2 like recommended running at the same settings as previous I got 4 BSOD (all different error codes) within maybe 10 minutes and windows 10 memory diagnostic almost immediately threw a hardware issue. My second issue is I had W10 installed on a NVME SSD (SATA3, i believe) installed in slow M.2-2, once my bluescreens occured id get to the windows splash screen but windows would not load. tried repair, instantly fails. Am i looking at more than Ryzen 3000 compatibility issues or is it just that. Specs in signature, mobo and cpu are new as of Saturday 7/27


I'm here in the forum for already 2 weeks (since I bought that bloody Asrock's mobo) and apart common boot and m.2 issues I haven't seen such problems...

Before installing system on m.2 I used OS from external usb drive (can be installed on the laptop for example), so you can try as well.

Note that Ryzen 5 3600 causes a bit more problems with current raw bioses than 3700x and 3900x cpu's.


Posted By: amol_ykzi
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 12:16am
Hello there

I also have a B450 Steel legend with Ryzen 3600

I am currently Running BIOS p2.30 and facing high temperatures on the stock cooler.
idle its about 50-60 spiking
normal video editing its goes 70+
and during load/ rendering its goes 83-90

Any help for a similar setup bro ?
Should I update the BIOS to 2.60 which is the latest ? Is it buggy or run the same BIOS which i'm currently running ?

any help is appreciated [My mail knif3r35@gmail.com]

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Posted By: wenerikk
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 12:26am
Originally posted by amol_ykzi amol_ykzi wrote:

Hello there

I also have a B450 Steel legend with Ryzen 3600

I am currently Running BIOS p2.30 and facing high temperatures on the stock cooler.
idle its about 50-60 spiking
normal video editing its goes 70+
and during load/ rendering its goes 83-90

Any help for a similar setup bro ?
Should I update the BIOS to 2.60 which is the latest ? Is it buggy or run the same BIOS which i'm currently running ?

any help is appreciated [My mail knif3r35@gmail.com]


Have different mobo but same CPU. Temperature is changing between 40-75, usually even without any load temp is 55 deg. A lot of people is complaining about stock cooler, maybe they are right or maybe this is also one of the current BIOS issues.


Posted By: af22
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 12:33am
Personally i would update to 2.60. Improved stability.

Temps without load fluctuates between mid 40s to 50s deg as per ryzen master


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 12:50am
Temps are high due to the current frequency boost algorithms. It's a fact related to all motherboards right now.

If You want to have lower temperatures you can disable boost in the BIOS or you can enable manual overclock (example: in a ryzen 3700X 4.0Ghz on all cores + 1.22v vcore). Gives a good performance and low safe voltage.


But a temp or voltage issue I think it's likely the same in all the AMD motherboards running Zen 2 Agesa.

You can read more about this on this topic:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/

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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 12:52am
Hardware Unboxed just released a video about high idle voltages, well, a Q&A that covers the question. I would expect that has something to do with the higher than expected idle temps. If so, it's probably going to get sorted with a BIOS/AGESA update.

I don't have a 3000 series CPU to test with so I can only go off what you guys are sharing here and review coverage etc off the web. I do have copies of all the current beta BIOSes off JZ's website and will be testing with my 1600x and X370 Taichi and X370 Gaming K4 but I am not sure how much use that will be with a first gen CPU.

My contacts at ASRock confirmed that they are being thorough in their testing rather than rushing new updates out the door which is great news. I had suspected that was the case but it's nice to hear it from the horses mouth. The beta BIOSes available are the ones they are testing right now and they are paying close attention to user feedback so this thread is proving useful. If I could ask you all to keep an eye out for other users making new threads reporting issues and direct them to post here that would be most helpful. I can't catch every thread so if we work together we can keep the issues listed in one place to make it easier to see what is common and what is specific to a particular user and config.

Also, check to make sure PBO is turned off, this will result in high temps at the moment and apparently the current AGESA enables it by default.

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Posted By: Xcomp666
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 1:35am
After 3.40 bios update, my system is running pretty stable now. My only issue now is about PBO. Using Aida 64 or Cinebench R20, I am getting clocks highers then 4.3 GHz with 1 or 2 cores. the other ones are stuck in 4.0 - 4.1 GHz. :(
Any thoughts?

Asrock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming itx/Ac
Bios version: 3.30
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
Memory: F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
SSD: Samsung 860 EVO M.2
GPU: GTX EVGA 1070 TI OC


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 3:30am
Saw an article on Toms Hardware about this very thing this morning:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-3000-turbo-boost-frequency-analysis,6253.html

Now I take anything Tom's says with a heap of salt these days but with things like this they are usually still mostly on point.

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Posted By: Xcomp666
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 3:52am
Exactly What I thought. Zen 2 architecture is not mature enough.


Posted By: frenchyaz
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 6:36am
My 3700x seems to work fine. Idle temperature seems to depend upon your Power Plan in Windows. I have temp below 50C on power saving and around 57C on Ryzen mode. I'm using a 2012 Corsair H60. I don't experience any issues with reboot before Post nor having memory issues (16GB Crucial, Bios 3.50) as the system runs them as XMP settings 3600.

On the other hand, the other board (I have 2, same BIOS) is hosting a Ryzen 2700 and 64GB and I do have multiple reboot before getting to Windows however when I set up the memory at 3000, they stay this way according to CPUz.

I'm thinking we are getting there with the BIOS but not quite there...
Asrock we believe in you, you can do it!


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Frenchyaz


Posted By: Harcoreta
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 3:19pm
B450M Steel legend - BIOS v2.50 + Ryzen 3600

- Unable to boot Windows 10 from my SAMSUNG SM951 AHCI M.2 SSD (MZHPV256HDGL-000H1), it's recognised in the device storage list, but it's not listed in boot menu. CSM set to Dissabled, I can Install windows but there are no way to boot it.

- Fantastic tuning are not working with DC fans, I you set a fan curve, when you complete the BIOS post and windows is loading, the fans always are working at full speed.


Posted By: Robtech
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by Harcoreta Harcoreta wrote:

B450M Steel legend - BIOS v2.50 + Ryzen 3600

- Unable to boot Windows 10 from my SAMSUNG SM951 AHCI M.2 SSD (MZHPV256HDGL-000H1), it's recognised in the device storage list, but it's not listed in boot menu. CSM set to Dissabled, I can Install windows but there are no way to boot it.

- Fantastic tuning are not working with DC fans, I you set a fan curve, when you complete the BIOS post and windows is loading, the fans always are working at full speed.


I have the exact same setup, but none of my 3 NVME drives are detected in storage (Samsung 512GB 970 Pro, Samsung 500GB 970 Evo and Samsung PM961. It was only ever detected twice on an older BIOS and at that time it did load into Windows fine. After powering off the NVME drive hasn't shown again.

Fantastic tuning doesn't work for me either. Fans are maxed out and driving me nuts since I have 5 of them.


Posted By: efegue
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 10:11pm
Meh, I've order a B450M Steel Legend this week and I also intend to use a nvme drive as a boot drive, now I'm worried... should I send it back?


Posted By: edministrator
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 10:46pm
Originally posted by efegue efegue wrote:

Meh, I've order a B450M Steel Legend this week and I also intend to use a nvme drive as a boot drive, now I'm worried... should I send it back?

I am using ADATA SX8200 Pro 1TB, recognized and booted just fine on bios 2.50


Posted By: clbc12
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 5:25am
I was hoping someone could tell me whether an issue I'm having is more likely to be a hardware or software issue. I have an R5 3600 and a B450M Steel Legend, and all the fans (both case fans and CPU fan) spin at full speed when booting or waking the machine from sleep mode, but then spin down after a second or 2 to a low-power state (in which even the LEDs go off, which is particularly strange), and refuse to spin up at any other time.

This is particularly troublesome because my CPU can reach 95C at full load, and the CPU fan never increases its speed to help cool it. I only have bios 2.1, so I'm hoping maybe this is the issue? Or is it more likely that the board is defective? (I'm using the stock cooler, by the way, if that makes a difference)

I know there have been a lot of issues with the Ryzen 3000 CPUs, so I was hoping somebody else might've had this one?


Posted By: Vantharas
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 6:43am
Is Asrock going to fix the Memory issues with the 370 series boards or no?

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Corsair AX860, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB , Asrock X370 Killer SLI/ac , Ryzen 5 1600X, 16GB DDR 4 3200


Posted By: ysyukr
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 8:57am
Motherboard: X470 Master SLI
BIOS: 3.40(SVM enable)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x(with GAMER STORM CASTLE 240 RGB)
Memory: 4x16GB Corsair CMW32GX4M2C3200C16 Vengeance RGB PRO @ 2666 cl16
Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 CP-9020140-NA 1200W
GPU: HIS Radeon RX 590 IceQ X2 OC 8GB
M2_1 : Samsung 970 EVO 500GB(NVME)
M2_2 : WD Black 500GB(NVME)
SATA1 : ADATA SU800 500GB

When BIOS 3.30 is used, it is 2993 cl18 even in memory full bank situation(not XMP), not even after BIOS update.

Should we look at it as a memory compatibility issue?
Or is it a matter of SVM options?

1.0.0.3ABB version of BIOS is waiting.


Posted By: boomydw
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 11:58am
Motherboard: B450 steel legend (atx)
BIOS: 2.63B
CPU: Ryzen 3600
Memory : 2x16GB samsung 2666
M2_1 : Samsung 970 EVO 500GB(NVME)

After bios updated (2.63B), system froze, couldn't enter Windows. It worked well in bios 2.60


Posted By: DylPikl
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 2:02pm
Originally posted by efegue efegue wrote:

Meh, I've order a B450M Steel Legend this week and I also intend to use a nvme drive as a boot drive, now I'm worried... should I send it back?


Same board with 250GB evo plus, boots fine on 2.50


Posted By: htbkoo
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 2:03pm
Motherboard: B450M Pro4
BIOS: 3.40
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (with stock cooler)
Memory: 2x16GB G.SKILL Fortis (for AMD) F4-2400C15D-32GFT @ 2400 c15
Power Supply: Antec EARTHWATTS GOLD PRO 550W
GPU: ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER MINI
M2_1 (Ultra M.2 Socket): Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB (NVME)
SATA1 : Seagate Momentus 2.5" 500GB

Problem I had encountered so far:

  • The performance of the ADATA SSD drive is very poor and I only get half of the specification rate and it is capped at ~1500MB/s for both read and write (although it is recognized and I can use it as boot drive).

    From the [URL=http://www.xpg.com/us/feature/583#Specifications]specification[/URL], it should be capable of performing at ~3000 to ~3500MB/s transfer rate.

    And according to CrystalDiskInfo, it is running only at "PCIe 3.0 x2" transfer mode but it also suggested that "PCIe 3.0 x4" mode is supported.

    I had tried to fill in and submit the support request form at ASRock website about 2 weeks ago for this particular problem but had not heard anything back from them yet.


  • According to [URL=https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/18888871]UserBenchmark[/URL], the RAM is performing far below expectation.

    To be fair I have not enabled the XMP profile for ram / only used "AUTO" for most BIOS configuration so I am slightly less concerned about the RAM performance for now.

    (For your information, you can also see that the SSD drive is underperforming as well while the whole machines seems to give an expected performance as a whole)


  • Similar to some earlier posts, it is a bit slow on the booting - typically takes ~15s (with fast boot disabled) / ~10s (after enabling fast boot AND detaching all old SATA drives).

    This is not a huge problem but I wonder if I can do anything to improve it as the booting time is even longer than that of my ~5 years old Surface Pro 3 (< 5s) .



Please let me know if I should flash the latest BIOS for my motherboard / update any configuration.

Thanks!


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by clbc12 clbc12 wrote:

I was hoping someone could tell me whether an issue I'm having is more likely to be a hardware or software issue. I have an R5 3600 and a B450M Steel Legend, and all the fans (both case fans and CPU fan) spin at full speed when booting or waking the machine from sleep mode, but then spin down after a second or 2 to a low-power state (in which even the LEDs go off, which is particularly strange), and refuse to spin up at any other time.

This is particularly troublesome because my CPU can reach 95C at full load, and the CPU fan never increases its speed to help cool it. I only have bios 2.1, so I'm hoping maybe this is the issue? Or is it more likely that the board is defective? (I'm using the stock cooler, by the way, if that makes a difference)

I know there have been a lot of issues with the Ryzen 3000 CPUs, so I was hoping somebody else might've had this one?


This is the same issue I have with a B450 ITX + a 3700X
And a much very quicker/easier way to trigger the issue is by turning off the Power Supply. This is worse than leaving the PC sleeping for a few hours.



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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 2:28pm
Yesterday I tried this method to clear the CMOS in a B450 ITX (and I left the PC like 8 hours with the Jumper ON and the battery disconnected):

http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=630&title=how-to-clear-cmos-via-battery-removal

But my profiles are still there, they were not wiped.

Could be possible that the profiles are never wiped and hence they are stored in some kind of separate memory?



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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: Ray62
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 4:05pm
The profiles should be wiped on/after bios updates in the flash, if the options structures are different compared to the former bios.
That has nothing to do with clear CMOS.
That would be bad, if the profiles would be cleared after clear CMOS!


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Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming Offline
Under test:
MSI X570_MEG_ACE | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X | Scythe Mugen5 | 2x16GB F4-3200C14D-32GTZ@3466 | ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 4:23pm
Ah ok, good to know. I thought that clearing the CMOS and removing the battery, should completely wipe the motherboard, including the personal profiles saved.

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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: efegue
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 5:04pm
Thanks to everyone who replied about B450M Steel Legend nvme boot drive success! I'll be using a Corsair Force MP510 960GB, let's see how it goes. I'll receive it today.
This board had the "Destiny 2" BIOS but it got pulled, will asrock update it to AGESA 1.0.0.3ABB? I'm waiting for it.


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 5:12pm
You can also download the latest chipset drivers, which have a "workaround" for Destiny 2. (BIOS update will be better of course, in the future).

I personally don't care about having 1.0.0.3AB or 1.0.0.3ABB, etc.

I just want my motherboard to be able to boot 100% all the time, even if I put to sleep my PC, shutdown my PC, or turn off the PSU.

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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: efegue
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 5:18pm
Well, I don't really care about the Destiny 2 fix, because I don't play it. It's more that the latest AGESA is supposed to fix boost clocks, etc. It's more because of that...
I'll receive my ryzen and MB today, I hope I don't have those kind of issues, let's see how it goes, fingers crossed.


Posted By: Wick0
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 8:55pm
I sold AB350 itx ac and buy ASUS ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING and the asus works fantastic with ryzen 3600X and i can run 4,4Ghz on all cores :-) what a beast

boot problems on AB350 itx, makes me angry, when on Asus works all fine why not on Asrock ?

I was buying 100+ board from asrock to my customers, and they are all still working fine, but the boards was for intel cpu.

When my customer will buy AMD cpu now I will buy a Asus board, when intel than Asrock is the way.


Posted By: ISwearToGod
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 11:35pm
Originally posted by Wick0 Wick0 wrote:

I sold AB350 itx ac and buy ASUS ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING and the asus works fantastic with ryzen 3600X and i can run 4,4Ghz on all cores :-) what a beast

boot problems on AB350 itx, makes me angry, when on Asus works all fine why not on Asrock ?

I was buying 100+ board from asrock to my customers, and they are all still working fine, but the boards was for intel cpu.

When my customer will buy AMD cpu now I will buy a Asus board, when intel than Asrock is the way.


The AsRock B350 board you had is a generation older than the Asus X470 board you have. That's why the Asus board is working and the AsRock one is not. You mean to tell us that you have a hand in buying computer hardware for customers even though you don't understand such a simple concept as one motherboard being older than the other one?


Posted By: wenerikk
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 1:29am
Originally posted by ISwearToGod ISwearToGod wrote:

Originally posted by Wick0 Wick0 wrote:

I sold AB350 itx ac and buy ASUS ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING and the asus works fantastic with ryzen 3600X and i can run 4,4Ghz on all cores :-) what a beast

boot problems on AB350 itx, makes me angry, when on Asus works all fine why not on Asrock ?

I was buying 100+ board from asrock to my customers, and they are all still working fine, but the boards was for intel cpu.

When my customer will buy AMD cpu now I will buy a Asus board, when intel than Asrock is the way.


The AsRock B350 board you had is a generation older than the Asus X470 board you have. That's why the Asus board is working and the AsRock one is not. You mean to tell us that you have a hand in buying computer hardware for customers even though you don't understand such a simple concept as one motherboard being older than the other one?


Mate, you are wrong! I have Asrock x470 and still have boot issues...


Posted By: Bol
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 1:44am
B450 gaming itx,3600 cpu, no storage devices visible on bios 3.30. Bios 3.40 results on bootloop and rarely seeing a bios screen, have reverted to 3.30 so I can update when required. Incidentally, board boots to Windows faultlessly with 2200g installed.


Posted By: Bol
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 1:50am
Using m2 sata drive btw


Posted By: bluemokona
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 11:56am
Hi all!

Just new here. I have freshly built w/ specs Ryzen 3600 and Asrock b450m Steel Legend. However, when turning it ON it doesn't have display and USB power but the fans and LEDs are ON. I have tried removing all the parts (RAM, GPU, m2, etc) retaining only the CPU but still the same results. Is this related to upgrade first the BIOS?

Thank you in advance


Posted By: Diiimonn
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 6:20pm
hi
u need update your bios with other cp(seria 1000, 2000, athlon )
i did. but my pc start and after 5 minutes restarting
ps amd give athlon for update bios


Posted By: guc
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 7:51pm
I have a memory training problem.

Just built a system with:
Ryzen 5 3600
asrock Fatality B450 itx/ac (BIOS 3.30 originally, installed 3.40 now)
32GB (2x 16) Crucial LT Sport 3200 (later exchanged for Ripjaws 2x 8 3200)
Crucial P1 M.2 SSD (1TB)

When turning the system on, it powers up and down several times before I even get the monitor to turn on and the BIOS screen to come available.
Sometimes it goes thru this cycle and gets to the BIOS and boots, and others it gets stuck and does not finish POST.

When it boots all the way, it works fantastic and I can even reboot and get to the BIOS config and change some parameters. But on a full power cycle, it apparently looses BIOS configurations and does the long POST/BOOT cycle again.

I even went back to the store and exchanged the motherboard and switched RAM from Crucial to the Ripjaws V kit but still having the same problem.

I am getting a new PSU, but for me it seems the firmware is doing memory training every time it boots. I am almost going back to the store to return the whole set and getting an Intel-based set... or might switch to a X570 but not sure the results will be the same.

Anyone else with the same long POST problem?


Posted By: alxzndr
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 9:12pm
Originally posted by guc guc wrote:

Anyone else with the same long POST problem?


I have exactly the same problem, with my b450 itx board on bios 3.41 (beta) and a ryzen 3700x :(


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 10:36pm
Originally posted by guc guc wrote:

I have a memory training problem.

Just built a system with:
Ryzen 5 3600
asrock Fatality B450 itx/ac (BIOS 3.30 originally, installed 3.40 now)
32GB (2x 16) Crucial LT Sport 3200 (later exchanged for Ripjaws 2x 8 3200)
Crucial P1 M.2 SSD (1TB)

When turning the system on, it powers up and down several times before I even get the monitor to turn on and the BIOS screen to come available.
Sometimes it goes thru this cycle and gets to the BIOS and boots, and others it gets stuck and does not finish POST.

When it boots all the way, it works fantastic and I can even reboot and get to the BIOS config and change some parameters. But on a full power cycle, it apparently looses BIOS configurations and does the long POST/BOOT cycle again.

I even went back to the store and exchanged the motherboard and switched RAM from Crucial to the Ripjaws V kit but still having the same problem.

I am getting a new PSU, but for me it seems the firmware is doing memory training every time it boots. I am almost going back to the store to return the whole set and getting an Intel-based set... or might switch to a X570 but not sure the results will be the same.

Anyone else with the same long POST problem?


Let me know if the PSU helps. I don't think the PSU will help unless it's something the Ryzen 3000 need from the PSU that older CPUs (like Ryzen 1000 or Haswell were not requiring).

In my case I tried practically everything. Started removing the NVME, the Sata drivers, swapping the RAMs between the 2 slots, disconnecting Reset SW, disconnecting CPU_FAN, connecting the 2 back WiFi antennas (which I don't use).
Clear the CMOS removing battery. Tried Bios 3.30, 3.40 and two unreleased bios.

The only thing I haven't tried yet is to connect the FRONT PANEL AUDIO. (which I don't think it's related to this).

Unfortunately I can't disconnect the GPU because it's the only one I have (GTX 1080 Gigabyte G1, using Displayport here).

It's frustrating because when the PC boots, it works perfectly.
But when you shutdown the PC, put PC to sleep, or simply, disconnect the Powersupply, there is always a chance the motherboard won't post next time and will reset the UEFI settings.


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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: ncc1701z
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 12:02am
B450 Pro4 user here.

Previously I was using a Ryzen 5 2400G with the 1.80 BIOS, everything worked fine.

Then trying to prepare an upgrade to Ryzen 5 3600, I updated the BIOS to 3.50; after that everytime I make any single change in the BIOS my Adata SX8200 won't be able to boot, forcing me to use the default. I had to clear CMOS every time to make it able to boot again. During this time I was using two Team Elite DDR4-2666 sticks that worked fine on dual channel without XMP (it wasn't a dual channel kit).

Finally I upgraded to the CPU mentioned above; also upgraded the RAM to a Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz dual channel kit. Now not only my PC suffers from very slow boot like many others, it always resets each time the PC is turned on and passed the POST, and the XMP Profile can't be loaded because the BIOS still don't allow any changes to be made.

Reading from above posts it seems I'm not the only one with this situation.
I understand this is part of an early adopter problem, however I suspect AGESA is not the only culprit here. I hope the next BIOS fixed all this and that it comes real soon.


Posted By: guc
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 12:31am
I will get the PSU early next week but am not hopeful. I did not try changing GPUs either and have an RX580 (MSI Armor RX580).

I did try connecting and disconnecting Front-Panel Audio, not change in behavior.

Same problems with the PC Sleep and Reboot - it is a lottery but seems the longer I keep it in sleep mode or shutdown, the higher the possiblity it will go in the long Post loop.

I am also hopeful a firmware update with a new AGESA release will fix this problem.


Posted By: Xcomp666
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 12:36am
On AMD forums, They confirmed that already sent a new AGESA version to ASRock. Probably this BIOS release will show up in a couple of weeks ( after QA tests).     


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 12:39am
Originally posted by ncc1701z ncc1701z wrote:

B450 Pro4 user here.

Previously I was using a Ryzen 5 2400G with the 1.80 BIOS, everything worked fine.

Then trying to prepare an upgrade to Ryzen 5 3600, I updated the BIOS to 3.50; after that everytime I make any single change in the BIOS my Adata SX8200 won't be able to boot, forcing me to use the default. I had to clear CMOS every time to make it able to boot again. During this time I was using two Team Elite DDR4-2666 sticks that worked fine on dual channel without XMP (it wasn't a dual channel kit).

Finally I upgraded to the CPU mentioned above; also upgraded the RAM to a Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz dual channel kit. Now not only my PC suffers from very slow boot like many others, it always resets each time the PC is turned on and passed the POST, and the XMP Profile can't be loaded because the BIOS still don't allow any changes to be made.

Reading from above posts it seems I'm not the only one with this situation.
I understand this is part of an early adopter problem, however I suspect AGESA is not the only culprit here. I hope the next BIOS fixed all this and that it comes real soon.


These issues are fairly common across all manufacturers, there may be a few issues specific to one brand or another but for the most part, the issues are effecting everyone (brand wise). Honestly, the forums have been rather quiet compared to first and second gen launches. I can't decide if it's because AMD did better this time out or if Ryzen users are just prepared for issues this time. The AGESA is responsible for about 90% of the issues people are having at this point, yes, there is that 10% and that is specific to board design, some models will have problems yet others won't depending on board specs and layout.

One of the key issues is BIOS ROM size, lower tier boards have smaller ROMs and can't accommodate the much larger BIOS files now being released. This requires the AGESA and customized code to be pruned to fit, needless to say, the more needs changing the more potential for issues. Lower tier boards are designed to cut cost in every possible way in order to provide the best possible quality and features for the lowest price. One of the pricier components on a board is the BIOS ROM. I would guess that no manufacturer predicted how large Ryzen UEFI code would get between all the microcode for CPUs through generations and necessary optimizations for each subsequent architecture. New territory that both AMD and it's board partners have had to navigate.

If you have not checked JZ's very helpful site for Beta BIOS versions for your board? I believe a lot of people have had good luck with them already. ASRock is monitoring this thread to get feedback on both issues with released BIOSes and the Betas that people are testing out.

I have tested what I can with my x370 boards and my 1600x but I didn't have any issues with any of the BIOS versions and my particular hardware combinations. I will be seeing about getting a 3000 series CPU and a 500 series board so I can test things out for myself and be more useful on the forums than just writing reassuring words.

Good luck all and keep up the useful posts

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Posted By: cerror
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 12:47am
Why not release a bios with 2000X and 3000X only support.
Just mention it explicitly at the bios download page.


Posted By: cerror
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 1:03am
My problems with the 3700X and a Asrock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac:
Turn the pc on and

- No case fans, AIO turns on + cpu fan.. black screen, nothing happens.
- Reboots itself
- Point 1 and 2 a couple of times.
- Suddenly casefans start spinning at roughly 30% for about 10 seconds.
- Casefans ramp up to a 100%
- Now either one of two things happen with mostly this first thing:
1 . The casefans stay ramped up to a 100% and nothing else happens
2. They slow down to 30% after 8 seconds, then ramp up again shortly. and the bios screen appears.
- When I save the bios, once every 20 tries, it goes and boots windows. All the other times, the casefans ramp up to a 100% and stay there. And of course nothing happens.


Posted By: Hans_Bethe
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 1:38am
Originally posted by guc guc wrote:

I have a memory training problem.

When turning the system on, it powers up and down several times before I even get the monitor to turn on and the BIOS screen to come available.
Sometimes it goes thru this cycle and gets to the BIOS and boots, and others it gets stuck and does not finish POST.

When it boots all the way, it works fantastic and I can even reboot and get to the BIOS config and change some parameters. But on a full power cycle, it apparently looses BIOS configurations and does the long POST/BOOT cycle again.

Anyone else with the same long POST problem?


This is exactly what I am observing. Booting for me is a kind of lottery.

I also do have the impression that the Board is struggeling with the RAM.

Regards

Hans

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ASRock B450M Pro4 BIOS 3.60
Ryzen 5 3600
Crucial P1 SSD NVMe in M.2 Ultra
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 DIMM CL16


Posted By: cerror
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 1:53am
Originally posted by Hans_Bethe Hans_Bethe wrote:

Originally posted by guc guc wrote:

I have a memory training problem.

When turning the system on, it powers up and down several times before I even get the monitor to turn on and the BIOS screen to come available.
Sometimes it goes thru this cycle and gets to the BIOS and boots, and others it gets stuck and does not finish POST.

When it boots all the way, it works fantastic and I can even reboot and get to the BIOS config and change some parameters. But on a full power cycle, it apparently looses BIOS configurations and does the long POST/BOOT cycle again.

Anyone else with the same long POST problem?


This is exactly what I am observing. Booting for me is a kind of lottery.

I also do have the impression that the Board is struggeling with the RAM.

Regards

Hans


Basically the same indeed.


Posted By: sebastianer
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 6:21am
Originally posted by cerror cerror wrote:

Why not release a bios with 2000X and 3000X only support.
Just mention it explicitly at the bios download page.


I think this would be an excellent approach. I think it would be better if they release a bios for Zen 2 only.

This way, people with Zen or Zen+ would stay with the most stable version available for 1st/2nd gen, without getting affected by Zen 3 unstable BIOS.

In my opinion AMD should publish some web page with the "Golden" AGESA version for each generation.

To me, sounds like my B450 ITX doesn't know how to handle all the 3 Zen generations and start rolling a dice everytime a new power cycle begins in my PC, until it finally boots, resetting UEFI settings in the process....

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MB: ASRock B450 ITX (P3.70)
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: Ballistix BLS2K8G4D32AESTK
SSD: Crucial P1 500 NVME
GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX1080
PSU: Enermax ERX530AWT --> Corsair RM650x (CP-9020178)


Posted By: maelstromm
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 10:09am
Originally posted by cerror cerror wrote:

My problems with the 3700X and a Asrock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac:
Turn the pc on and
- No case fans, AIO turns on + cpu fan.. black screen, nothing happens.
- Reboots itself
- Point 1 and 2 a couple of times.
- Suddenly casefans start spinning at roughly 30% for about 10 seconds.
- Casefans ramp up to a 100%
- Now either one of two things happen with mostly this first thing:
1 . The casefans stay ramped up to a 100% and nothing else happens
2. They slow down to 30% after 8 seconds, then ramp up again shortly. and the bios screen appears.
- When I save the bios, once every 20 tries, it goes and boots windows. All the other times, the casefans ramp up to a 100% and stay there. And of course nothing happens.

Exact same combination of motherboard and processor. But my problem is that it goes through this cycle every time my machine goes to sleep. It will turn on but all my bios settings have been reset. I am running bios 3.40. Thinking of reverting back to 3.30. It wasn't this bad on that build.


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 1:08pm
From all I have seen so far it seems AGESA 1.0.0.3AB has taken strides in addressing more wide spread issues, if history is any gauge there will likely be one or two more revisions before less common issues get tackled. Annoying as this may be, it's still better than first gen where a new AGESA would fix one issue and create 5 new ones.

For all of you experiencing looping boot issues, make sure you have PBO disabled. PBO is still problematic on 1.0.0.3ab and in some cases seems enabled by default. I would assume issues caused by this will be worse on ITX boards with their smaller VRM design.

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Posted By: srdjan1995
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2019 at 5:20pm
Any news on new bios releases for 300 series motherboards, like my AB350 Pro4?



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