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ASRock Fm2A58M-VGA3+ R2.0 Wont Turn on.

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Topic: ASRock Fm2A58M-VGA3+ R2.0 Wont Turn on.
Posted By: Joker wild
Subject: ASRock Fm2A58M-VGA3+ R2.0 Wont Turn on.
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 10:03am
This is my first computer build.
My Motherboard is
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PIGRGGC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PIGRGGC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1" rel="nofollow - ASRock Micro ATX DDR3 2400 FM2 Motherboard FM2A58M-VG3+ R2.0
My cpu is an
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0095VPBFY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1" rel="nofollow - AMD A6-5400K APU 3.6Ghz Dual-Core Processor AD540KOKHJBOX
My power suppluy is a
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logisys-power-supply-ps480dbk" rel="nofollow - Logisys 480W ATX Power Supply
My Ram is
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-ted34096m1333hc9" rel="nofollow - Team Elite 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
my video card is a
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7111520l" rel="nofollow - Zotac GeForce GT 730 4GB Video Card.

And for the life of me i cannot get the damn thing to turn on!
Its frustrating but i cant figure out what i am missing. any help would be greatly appreciated.AngryAngryAngry



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Posted By: Rabiddog
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 12:53pm
Originally posted by Joker wild Joker wild wrote:

This is my first computer build.
My Motherboard is
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PIGRGGC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PIGRGGC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1" rel="nofollow - ASRock Micro ATX DDR3 2400 FM2 Motherboard FM2A58M-VG3+ R2.0
My cpu is an
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0095VPBFY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1" rel="nofollow - AMD A6-5400K APU 3.6Ghz Dual-Core Processor AD540KOKHJBOX
My power suppluy is a
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logisys-power-supply-ps480dbk" rel="nofollow - Logisys 480W ATX Power Supply
My Ram is
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-ted34096m1333hc9" rel="nofollow - Team Elite 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
my video card is a
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7111520l" rel="nofollow - Zotac GeForce GT 730 4GB Video Card.

And for the life of me i cannot get the damn thing to turn on!
Its frustrating but i cant figure out what i am missing. any help would be greatly appreciated.AngryAngryAngry
Are you getting any post warning beeps?
Is it posting at all?
Do the fans power up?
You push the button and????????????


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 2:03pm
As it's your first build, did you remember to connect the P4 4-pin power connection from the PSU in the upper left hand side?
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 3:00pm
If you can't get it to power up at all you should start by checking to make sure all the necessary power connections are properly connected and that the switch on the back of the power supply is on. You can also check to make sure you have connected the power switch to the correct pins on the motherboard, this is one of the more common issues with new builds not powering up. 

Take a good thorough look through your manual and re-follow all the steps and make sure you have not missed anything and that you have connected all the correct cables to their corresponding headers on the motherboard. 


Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 9:05pm
I've confirmed the psu and the fan are both plugged in correctly.
there is no beep.
 
except for the data connections, the only things I have left unplugged are the two TDV WTD plugs, which don't appear to have a place to plug into.


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 10:30pm
So when you press the power button nothing at all happens? Are the LED lights on the LAN port lit? If they are not then there is no power getting to the board. Be sure to check if the clear CMOS jumper is set to "1 and 2" not "2 and 3" if the jumper is set in the "clear" (2 and 3) position the board will not power on. Also make sure that the 24pin power connector is firmly seated and its clip is in place, I have often seen these connections be very tight to the point where it looks like they are in but in fact are not making contact.


Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 11:02pm
There is no power button that i can see. and i know nothing about jumpers. i flip the switch on the power supply and nothing moves, none of the fans or anything. i suspect these "jumpers" might be the cause of the problem. what are they and how do i make them work?


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2015 at 11:52pm
The switch on the power supply does not power up the system, you need to have the case power switch connected to the motherboard, instructions as to how to do this should be in your user manual that came with the motherboard. 


Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2015 at 5:41am
Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

The switch on the power supply does not power up the system, you need to have the case power switch connected to the motherboard, instructions as to how to do this should be in your user manual that came with the motherboard. 



You're seriously telling me the problem is i have no "on" button?


Posted By: Rabiddog
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2015 at 6:39am
Originally posted by Joker wild Joker wild wrote:

Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

The switch on the power supply does not power up the system, you need to have the case power switch connected to the motherboard, instructions as to how to do this should be in your user manual that came with the motherboard. 



You're seriously telling me the problem is i have no "on" button?
what hes saying is,,wrong switch,,,power supplies have their own switch,that does not power up computer,more like a emergency kill switch......to power computer the power switch/button is on the case/tower,most likely the front of case.


Posted By: Rabiddog
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2015 at 6:46am
Originally posted by Joker wild Joker wild wrote:

There is no power button that i can see. and i know nothing about jumpers. i flip the switch on the power supply and nothing moves, none of the fans or anything. i suspect these "jumpers" might be the cause of the problem. what are they and how do i make them work?
A jumper is a little plastic square on your board,its on the very bottom.first thing on the bottom left......a little plastic square covering the first 2 pins out of 3 pins....if the square is covering #2 and #3 pins,thats CLEAR CMOS,and board wont fire up.
If the square is covering #1 and #2,that is not the problem here.


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2015 at 7:10am
Originally posted by Joker wild Joker wild wrote:

Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

The switch on the power supply does not power up the system, you need to have the case power switch connected to the motherboard, instructions as to how to do this should be in your user manual that came with the motherboard. 



You're seriously telling me the problem is i have no "on" button?

I know it sounds bad but yes Wink

The power switch from the case needs to be connected to the motherboard. On your particular board the connector you need is on the bottom left corner of the board if you look at the board with the IO panel at the top.



I have highlighted in red where the power switch is connected for you. If you do not have a case or just want to see if the system will power on you can short those 2 pins with a metal object, I usually use a screwdriver. 

I hope this helps solve your problems Smile
First builds can be tricky but you will feel great once you get it all up and running Wink


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2015 at 8:05am
OP, in your MB Manual(I just used the online pdf  manual), see pg 5, Sec 1.3, specifically the lower right corner, #12. This is where the wires FROM the case are connected.

Then refer to page 17, System Panel Header< for which wires from your case attach to the MB at this location.

If you need further help, reply back with your cases make and model. We'll know more towards guiding you then with us knowing the case you have.
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Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2015 at 5:13am
I don't have a case, as I plan to build one out of Legos. Let me see if I understand you so far.
 
You're telling me that the psu acts more like a power strip, and to turn the device on, I have to use a separate switch entirely, a switch, that is usually supplied with a case purchased from any retailers, so in order to get the computer to post, I'll needs second switch in the same way I would if I had a tv plugged into a power strip?


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2015 at 8:17am
The PSU, when switched on on the back of the PSU only supplies "stand by' power.

It's a cases power switch , and its wiring connected to the MB , that actually turns the computer on for use.

Without the cases power switch being connected to the MB, no, it will not turn on.

Xaltar explained above how to short the two power switch pins, which will act the same as a cases power switch.

Being very careful not to short out any incorrect pins at the system panel header, if you have the nerve, give that a go.
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2015 at 8:25am
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-a-Lego-Computer/" rel="nofollow - http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-a-Lego-Computer/

Specifically, per the power switch and reset switch if wanted:
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-a-Lego-Computer/step3/Basics-of-Computer-Building-Parts/" rel="nofollow - http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-a-Lego-Computer/step3/Basics-of-Computer-Building-Parts/
""A Switch to the motherboard for power and reset""
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Posted By: Rabiddog
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2015 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by Joker wild Joker wild wrote:

I don't have a case, as I plan to build one out of Legos. Let me see if I understand you so far.
 
You're telling me that the psu acts more like a power strip, and to turn the device on, I have to use a separate switch entirely, a switch, that is usually supplied with a case purchased from any retailers, so in order to get the computer to post, I'll needs second switch in the same way I would if I had a tv plugged into a power strip?
Im sorry,but have you ever turned any computer on?
Have you ever used a switch on the back of a computer to turn it on?


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2015 at 3:12pm
Actually, AT systems used turn on at the PSU but I have not seen one since first gen Pentiums  were current Smile

It is an easy thing to overlook if you are a new builder. Venturing into the world of system building for the first time can be daunting and in all likelihood you will make a few mistakes but each one you make will teach you something. Don't be discouraged and take each new thing you learn as a win.

Old PCs (pre Pentium 2) used to be AT form factor and would be turned on directly from the PSU or at least a switch connected to the PSU. This system was abandoned because it shunts a spike of power into the system every time you turn the power supply on. Around the time Pentiums gave way to Pentium II the ATX system currently in use was implemented commercially. ATX systems constantly have a small amount of power running through the system and are "powered up" by a switch that must be connected to the motherboard, this means less power spiking and better component longevity. 

If you look at the post where I posted the picture of the front panel header (the block of pins in the image) it should tell you all you need to know to power on the system and test it. For a first build I strongly recommend that you use a standard case rather than use a more creative medium. Once you have it all worked out in a normal case you can then build your Lego case and use the standard case for reference as to how many fan holes, vents and other essential cooling features you need to implement. 

Here is fairly comprehensive video tutorial on system building that should help you get a better understanding of not only how to put a PC together but also why it needs to be done this way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw" rel="nofollow - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls" rel="nofollow - Part 2

If you do go ahead with building a  Lego case at some point I would love to see your progress on the build Thumbs Up 


Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 10:12pm
Thank you all for the help and advice. I have a power button coming in on the 17th, and ill see if I can get it to post then, also thank you for the instructables link to the Lego PC case, that will help. I'll post an update soon


Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 12:02am
Originally posted by Rabiddog Rabiddog wrote:

Originally posted by Joker wild Joker wild wrote:

I don't have a case, as I plan to build one out of Legos. Let me see if I understand you so far.
 
You're telling me that the psu acts more like a power strip, and to turn the device on, I have to use a separate switch entirely, a switch, that is usually supplied with a case purchased from any retailers, so in order to get the computer to post, I'll needs second switch in the same way I would if I had a tv plugged into a power strip?
Im sorry,but have you ever turned any computer on?
Have you ever used a switch on the back of a computer to turn it on?



Every time ive used a computer the switch has always been in the back. i've used the same one for a little over a decade, my cousin built it for me and he designed it so it wouldnt need to be upgraded for quite a while. i'm doing the same here He did a custom case and set the power button on the back next to the I/O. i plan to put the I/o on th efrnt this time.


Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 1:42pm
Ok. so the computer is posting now, and i have the graphical interface of the uefi set yup the way i want it. now when i go to install the operating system, it tells me i need to select an appropriate boot device. the DVD i have has windows 7 on it, and it is an external type DVD rom/DVD burner, but it doesn't seem to be able to install windows. ideas?


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 2:21pm
BIOS > Advanced > Storage Configuration

Is your hard drive/SSD showing up beside SATA_1 _2 _3 or _4 ??
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Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 2:56pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

BIOS > Advanced > Storage Configuration

Is your hard drive/SSD showing up beside SATA_1 _2 _3 or _4 ??
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yes sata 1&2  have the appropriate hard drives detected


Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 2:58pm
Originally posted by Joker wild Joker wild wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

BIOS > Advanced > Storage Configuration

Is your hard drive/SSD showing up beside SATA_1 _2 _3 or _4 ??
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yes sata 1&2  have the appropriate hard drives detected



ide mode if that matters


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 3:39pm
You will want to set your hard disks to AHCI for optimum performance. When you turn on the PC you will want to press F11 during post and select a boot device, your external optical drive should be listed as a USB device.


Posted By: Joker wild
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 11:10pm
Originally posted by Xaltar Xaltar wrote:

You will want to set your hard disks to AHCI for optimum performance. When you turn on the PC you will want to press F11 during post and select a boot device, your external optical drive should be listed as a USB device.



Ok i did that, but its still not installing windows. The message reads: Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key.



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