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Topic: Ryzen 3000 Temps.
Posted By: T1125P
Subject: Ryzen 3000 Temps.
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2019 at 5:36am
Hi all was wondering ever since I upgraded to a 3700x for my x470 Taichi my CPU temps while gaming will reach max up to about 73c. I think this is normal but while encoding using handbrake from say mp4 to mkv I noticed the temps reach up to 83c. I know ryzen 3000 runs hot but is this pretty normal? I have PBO disabled in the BIOS. My system specs with my cooler listed below.

Thanks

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x470 Taichi v5.10
5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B)
G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14
970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB
PNY RTX 4070 Super
SoundBlaster AE-7
EVGA 850W Platinum
LG WH16NS40
AOC Q24G2A



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Posted By: gizmic
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2019 at 10:18am
i get avg 61C goes up to 75C on prime but of course i'm on custom wc and havent started undervolting

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Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2019 at 12:38pm
Makes sense yours will be cooler than mine with water cooling. I think it's normal based on many reporting similar results. I came across this from Noctua:
https://noctua.at/en/why-is-my-ryzen-3000-processor-getting-so-hot-why-are-ryzen-3000-cpus-running-hotter-than-previous-generation-ryzen-cpus-with-the-same-tdp-rating-is-there-anything-wrong-with-my-cooler

I applied thermal paste correctly a pea size dot right in the middle, I guess I have nothing to worry about based on the response from Noctua :D

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x470 Taichi v5.10
5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B)
G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14
970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB
PNY RTX 4070 Super
SoundBlaster AE-7
EVGA 850W Platinum
LG WH16NS40
AOC Q24G2A


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2019 at 3:14pm
Originally posted by T1125P T1125P wrote:

Hi all was wondering ever since I upgraded to a 3700x for my x470 Taichi my CPU temps while gaming will reach max up to about 73c. I think this is normal but while encoding using handbrake from say mp4 to mkv I noticed the temps reach up to 83c. I know ryzen 3000 runs hot but is this pretty normal? I have PBO disabled in the BIOS. My system specs with my cooler listed below.

Thanks


Hi @T1125P, the Noctua NH-U12S SE is so skinny, not worthy of the 3700x. Upgrade to big big cooler and your 3700x will show it's prowess.


I use 420x140x86 for 1700x, plus 420x140x28 for GPU, single loop them.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: gizmic
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2019 at 5:06pm
Originally posted by T1125P T1125P wrote:



I applied thermal paste correctly a pea size dot right in the middle, I guess I have nothing to worry about based on the response from Noctua :D


zen 2 arent suppose to have pea size dot in the middle you should do the threadripper type format since zen2 silicon arent in the middle

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Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2019 at 6:50am
Hmm I was thinking about upgrading my cooler to a bigger Noctua but a bit lazy now to replace my older one lol. I thought the 3700x had only one cpu die and CPUs like the 3900x and 3950x have multiple cpu chiplets? That's why I used only one pea size dot of paste. I will monitor my temps and if I see it go over 85c while encoding then I will buy a new cooler, thanks all ??

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x470 Taichi v5.10
5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B)
G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14
970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB
PNY RTX 4070 Super
SoundBlaster AE-7
EVGA 850W Platinum
LG WH16NS40
AOC Q24G2A


Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2019 at 6:51am
Oops I meant thanks all with a happy face :)

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x470 Taichi v5.10
5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B)
G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14
970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB
PNY RTX 4070 Super
SoundBlaster AE-7
EVGA 850W Platinum
LG WH16NS40
AOC Q24G2A


Posted By: gizmic
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2019 at 4:07pm
1 or 2 die ryzen 3000 has a gap in the middle between the IO die and the actual cpu chiplet so yeah i dont think dot in the middle is the best way to do it

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Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2019 at 11:41pm
Originally posted by T1125P T1125P wrote:

but a bit lazy now


hahahaha, absolutely understand you man.....

because I was also lazy to add 2nd radiator.... thought about it like 1.5 years..... finally did it......, without buying extra hoses, I thought the old plus leftovers was enough...... but was soooo wrong........ tried so many placement and configurations ......... install takeout install takeout........ at the end they all fit barely, bent and ugly possibly twisting may be going to burst it's way off later....... so I got to buy extra connectors to let them turn 90 degrees or 45 degrees etc, new hoses too possibly and redo them again......

Whole thing took like 12 man working hours......should have been just 2 hours I think.....

Anyway, I'm not using thermal paste, I use Graphene Sheet 0.025mm thick vertical 15~20w/m.k, horizontal 1500~1800w/m.k

[URL=https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.48ba2e8dL7zcWx&id=42470117613&_u=7b8lko6ef4f]taobao Graphene sheet[/URL]

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2019 at 5:33am
Originally posted by gizmic gizmic wrote:

1 or 2 die ryzen 3000 has a gap in the middle between the IO die and the actual cpu chiplet so yeah i dont think dot in the middle is the best way to do it



Hmm, I forgot about that I/O die oops :D I think I will buy a bigger air cooler from Noctua or Be Quiet and put 2 half size pea dots on the CPU instead of one ^)^ I'm using 2 120mm Corsair Fans: I'm not using thermal paste, I use Graphene Sheet 0.025mm thick vertical 15~20w/m.k, horizontal 1500~1800w/m.k

Close to 2500RPM they are great.

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x470 Taichi v5.10
5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B)
G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14
970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB
PNY RTX 4070 Super
SoundBlaster AE-7
EVGA 850W Platinum
LG WH16NS40
AOC Q24G2A


Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2019 at 5:34am
"Anyway, I'm not using thermal paste, I use Graphene Sheet 0.025mm thick vertical 15~20w/m.k, horizontal 1500~1800w/m.k"


Hmm that is interesting I never thought about anything else except thermal paste. Does it cool better? I'm in the states but I can order that just will take some time :D

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x470 Taichi v5.10
5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B)
G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14
970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB
PNY RTX 4070 Super
SoundBlaster AE-7
EVGA 850W Platinum
LG WH16NS40
AOC Q24G2A


Posted By: John29
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2019 at 6:28am
Applied thermal paste 5 small pea size dot,gaming 51c maximum handbake 71c max,
all core 4200 at 1.31835,loadline leval 4

ASROCK X470 Taichi bios L3.77 Ryzen 3700X
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X All core at 4200
Noctua NH-U12A
Nvidia 1060 6gb
Samsung 970 Pro M.2
Samsung 860 EVO M.2
TeamGroup Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 4x8 32GB PC4-25600C14 3200c14 running at 3600C16 at 1.380
Seasonic 750 Platinuim


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2019 at 10:41am
Originally posted by T1125P T1125P wrote:

"Anyway, I'm not using thermal paste, I use Graphene Sheet 0.025mm thick vertical 15~20w/m.k, horizontal 1500~1800w/m.k"


Hmm that is interesting I never thought about anything else except thermal paste. Does it cool better? I'm in the states but I can order that just will take some time :D


honestly, I'm not sure it cools better or not, saying yes is bias talking, saying no but I'm very satisfied with it, especially when removing CPU so clean no mess.

typical cheap paste 3w/m.k

standard paste 5~7w/m.k

good around 10w/m.k expensive

really good >12w/m.k crazy expensive

only costs US$10 for A4 size Graphene Sheet 0.025mm, I can use it for like 32 CPU install. As in for life.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2019 at 4:43pm
Graphene Sheet is slightly less efficient than standard thermal paste but we
are talking negligible variance here. It's thermal properties are technically
better but the nature of the material means slightly poorer thermal contact
between IHS, sheet and Heatsink. There has been a lot of testing done and the
general consensus is that it works about as well as average low to medium grade
thermal compound, certainly on par with pre-applied solutions.

What is works very well for is use cases where coolers/CPUs are changed
frequently while not suffering any worth while cooling penalties. It is also
very useful in systems than run 24/7 for long periods as it will not degrade
and become less effective over time. Personally I really like it, what you lose
in efficiency through the slightly less effective contact you more than make up
for with convenience and longevity. I can see it being widely adopted on GPUs
and prebuilt systems very soon. GPUs in particular are infamous for hardened
thermal compound causing inefficient thermal dissipation.

Thanks for sharing cx5.

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Posted By: techrat
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2019 at 10:43pm
Have you thought about an AIO cooler? I use an EVGA CLC 240mm All-In-One RGB LED CPU Liquid Cooler on my 3800X. My temps never get past 60c. They idle around 35c. Not the best solution for a small case but if you have the room, it could be worth it.


Posted By: T1125P
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2019 at 1:52am
I like to stick to air cooling, I know AIO liquid coolers can cool a bit more but they have a certain life then they stop working. Maybe 5yrs or a bit more. I might look into a bigger Noctua cooler and apply a few pea size dots instead of one big one :D

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x470 Taichi v5.10
5800X3D (Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B)
G.SKILL Flare X Series (8GBx4) 32GB 3200 CL14
970 Evo 1TB+SK Hynix 2TB
PNY RTX 4070 Super
SoundBlaster AE-7
EVGA 850W Platinum
LG WH16NS40
AOC Q24G2A



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