Slow Boot on New Build
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Topic: Slow Boot on New Build
Posted By: Brucex64
Subject: Slow Boot on New Build
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2020 at 1:31pm
I'm new here as my first time with an ASRock board. I just completed my new build which is a Ryzen 5 2600 on a B450M Pro4 motherboard with 8gb of ram.
One issue that I notice is different than my last Intel board is that it takes a long time to boot up. It did this when I first booted with nothing but a BIOS - I had a clean unformatted NVME drive to start. Once I installed windows 10, nothing changed. I timed it. It takes around 39 seconds from power on to the windows log in screen. Its about 18 seconds to get to the ASRock screen, and then it sits there for 10 I think, and then goes to the windows logo.
This seems quite long. Selecting "ultra fast boot" in the UEFI does not make a difference. I've updated the B450 chipset drivers. I could not find a newer BIOS so I think I have the latest. How can I speed it up?
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2020 at 3:54pm
Please share your full specs, including RAM model and what you are running it at.
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Posted By: Brucex64
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2020 at 4:09pm
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 Board: ASRock B450M Pro 4; Bios version P3.90 running at stock settings, no overclocking Ram: G.Skill Aegis 8gb kit (2x4gb) DDR4 2400 in slots A2 & B2 Video: GeForce GT640 (an old one, this carried over from my prior system) System drive: Samsung 970 EVO Plus, NVME; Windows 10 Build 1909 Date drive: Seagate Firecuda 2TB
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2020 at 9:44pm
It sounds like the system isn't liking your RAM, long post times (time before the ASRock logo shows up) tend to be because of memory training. Your RAM is Aegis, intel specced RAM. The AMD equivalent (from GSkill) is Fortis. If it's working and not giving you issues you are lucky, a lot of people had no luck trying to get Aegis to work on AM4 at all. You can try using Ryzen Calcualator and manually setting your timings for your RAM, that may help speed up boot times.
That said, it won't hurt anything, the system is just taking a bit longer to puzzle out working timings and settings for your RAM on each cold boot. We had a lot of complaints on the forums about POST failures to do with Aegis RAM a while back as it was the cheapest RAM you could get when RAM prices were high. First gen Ryzen didn't like it at all.
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2020 at 10:56pm
id have to agree with xaltar
it really does sound like the memory training for boot is struggling
my wife is using this board with a 1600 AF (so technically a 2600)
*when* she boots it (as she usually leaves it on 24/7) it whips thru boot in a swift manner bios version 3.9 ram = crucial ballistix 2x8gb 3200 cl16 (set at simple bios selected xmp timings
one thing im wondering though
the gpu ......... gt640 is that a uefi bios card ? i thought it was still on legacy ?
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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold
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Posted By: Brucex64
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 1:31am
Xaltar wrote:
It sounds like the system isn't liking your RAM, long post times (time before the ASRock logo shows up) tend to be because of memory training. Your RAM is Aegis, intel specced RAM. The AMD equivalent (from GSkill) is Fortis. If it's working and not giving you issues you are lucky, a lot of people had no luck trying to get Aegis to work on AM4 at all. You can try using Ryzen Calcualator and manually setting your timings for your RAM, that may help speed up boot times.
That said, it won't hurt anything, the system is just taking a bit longer to puzzle out working timings and settings for your RAM on each cold boot. We had a lot of complaints on the forums about POST failures to do with Aegis RAM a while back as it was the cheapest RAM you could get when RAM prices were high. First gen Ryzen didn't like it at all. |
I looked at the Ryzen Calculator. It has a box for frequency, but the drop down list starts at 2666. Mine is 2400. So how would I use the calculator? Would I select 2666?
If this ram is not the best for AMD, would I be able to exchange it? I bought it from Newegg.
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 1:36am
does it not display when you click R-xmp
then select safe and enter the 2400 mhz but timings from SAFE 2666 (into your bios)
that should be ok
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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold
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Posted By: Brucex64
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 2:30am
Nope, when I click XMP its the same. Actually there is no XMP profile that I can load in the bios.
So I chose the lowest freq from the list - 2666 - and calculated safe. After entering those #s in the bios, its still the same.
Does it matter that the ram is in the 2nd slot (A2/B2) and not the first?
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Posted By: Brucex64
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 2:33am
datonyb wrote:
one thing im wondering though
the gpu ......... gt640 is that a uefi bios card ? i thought it was still on legacy ? |
Not sure what you mean. Its a PCI-E graphics card.
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 2:58am
THE BIOS FOR THE GRAPHICS CARD LATER IS UEFI EARLY IS LEGACY BIOS
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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold
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Posted By: Brucex64
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 3:15am
datonyb wrote:
THE BIOS FOR THE GRAPHICS CARD LATER IS UEFI EARLY IS LEGACY BIOS
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Ok, I ran GPU-Z to gather info about it. It lists the BIOS version of the card, and next to that is a box called UEFI which is unchecked. The tooltip says that shows whether the BIOS embeds a UEFI module, if not the system BIOS must run CSM to boot with this card. So it looks like it does not have UEFI.
Would that make a difference in my boot time?
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 3:23am
yes , also i cant understand how you enabled fast boot with a legacybios
basically the bios needs to load extra files to boot your gpu
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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold
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Posted By: Brucex64
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2020 at 11:37am
Updating my post: I decided to pull the trigger and buy a new modern video card. Being a budget system, I bought a RX-560 which has the AMD GPU for my AMD system. Still not impressive boot times, but there is an improvement. Now, it goes from power on to the ASRock screen at 10 seconds, holds there for 11; then takes around 5 to get to the Windows screen at 27-ish. So its 10 seconds faster. I also turned off the Compatibility setting in the UEFI since I don't need it anymore and just for kicks swapped my RAM modules to A1 & B1 from A2/B2.
I tried selecting Ultra Fast Boot but it does not work - it still took 27 seconds.
I really wonder why some people have very fast booting Ryzen systems & what the difference is.
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Posted By: torio2k
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 4:06pm
Did you manage to resolve the issue? I have the same problem with asrock b450 pro4. Cpu: Ryzen 5 3600 2 HyperX Fury 16gb at 2666 GPU: rx 550 Bios version is 3.90
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Posted By: Brucex64
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2020 at 1:27am
torio2k wrote:
Did you manage to resolve the issue? I have the same problem with asrock b450 pro4. Cpu: Ryzen 5 3600 2 HyperX Fury 16gb at 2666 GPU: rx 550 Bios version is 3.90 |
Sorry for the delayed response...but with the new AMD-based video card I was able to shave a few seconds off the boot time. Now its 28 seconds from hitting the button to Windows login screen. Its about 11 seconds from first power to get to the ASrock screen. I don't know how some people's are almost instant.
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