New x470 Taichi won't post
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Topic: New x470 Taichi won't post
Posted By: Blatherskite
Subject: New x470 Taichi won't post
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 11:27am
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Bit of a long story here. I'm essentially rebuilding my PC. Components are as follows: Motherboard: ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate CPU: RYZEN 5 3600 GPU: Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX 5500 XT Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) PSU: Antec NeoECO 620W Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive Case: NZXT H510 I put these pieces together, powered the thing on, and... the machine powered up, the LEDs started a slow pulse, but the screen stayed dark. After a moment of the fans whirring, the machine powered off, only to power itself back on again. This continued indefinitely until I turned off the power myself and messaged some friends. The sharp-eyed among you will have noticed what I came to learn: the x470 needs a BIOS update before it can deal with the Ryzen 3000 series. Rather than wait for the process to get a boot kit from AMD, I opted to just buy a cheap older CPU from Newegg. A few days later I installed an AMD Athlon 3000G and tried to start it up... only to have the same cycle, except this time the LED numbers at the bottom of the board gave me what appeared to be a 61 error code. From what I've read that's a chipset initialization error, so I pulled the CMOS battery, waited for an hour, replaced it and hit reset, to no change. So far, what I've tried: -CMOS reset button -CMOS physical battery removal -reseating all power cables and data cables -removing one RAM stick and reseating a single stick in each of the four slots -removing both RAM sticks -Reseating GPU -Removing GPU (tried to cover every single base imaginable here) My IT friends were at a loss. They decided that it had to be a defect with the motherboard, and the only available option left was to replace it. But something is nagging at me. Am I missing something? ------------- MW |
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Posted By: Blatherskite
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 12:01pm
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Forgot to include, here are photos of the rig and the error code: https://imgur.com/a/tDzJYmY ------------- MW |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 3:00pm
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The Athlon 3000g requires an even newer BIOS version than your R5 3600. The Athlon came out a few months after the 3600, the behavior is different because the Athlon is based on an older architecture but still requires a newer BIOS to work. https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X470%20Taichi%20Ultimate/index.asp#CPU If you are looking for a fast way to update without a boot kit, always get a CPU that is supported on all BIOS revisions for your board. ------------- 
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Posted By: Blatherskite
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 3:03pm
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I had no idea; I thought the athlon was older all around. Well, my bad. Gonna buy an R3 1200AF and use that. ------------- MW |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 3:51pm
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All the 1000 series AFs are new too, if you look at the compatibility list I linked you will see the 1600(YD1600BBM6IAF) requires BIOS version 3.9, the 1200 AF is even newer than that. AMD has really confused things with this AF situation. They are essentially 2000 series parts rebranded as 1000 series parts. Your best bet would be a non AF 1000 series or something like a 200ge. You can also identify what BIOS your board shipped with by looking for the white sticker on the BIOS chip, it will have a version number printed on it. I am seeing issues like yours a lot lately, with AF parts being so cheap many people are tempted to go with them and end up with the same issue. -------------
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 7:43pm
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second to what xaltar has advised you stick to 1600/1700 etc etc WITHOUT the af code or a normal 2nd gen ryzen 2600/2700x etc *mumbles quietly asrock dropped the ball by not providing bios usb flashback on the taichi high end boards* ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 10:12pm
The x570 Taichi has BIOS Flashback, it only took 2 generations  At least ASRock listen, eventually  -------------
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datonyb wrote:Posted By: Blatherskite
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 5:52am
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Thanks for everyone's help! At this point I returned all CPUs and I'm just going to get an R5 2600; I know that one works and I can deal with the lesser performance, it'll still be a big jump up from the FX 6300 I was using before. ------------- MW |
Posted By: beekermartin
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 8:27am
| I am having the same no post issue with a Taichi X470. I have tried 3 CPUs that should work with any bios and all of them get the post code 00. With a 3700X installed I don't even get a post code. Needless to say I am RMAing the board. I am very frustrated and disappointed. |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 8:54am
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Your situation and symptoms are different beekermartin, in this case it appears to be a simple case of an unsupported CPU (both of the ones tried). The 61 error code is to do with RAM, more particularly, the system not recognizing the IMC on the CPU because the BIOS doesn't support it. I suspect this is why AMD wanted to can support for the 400 series and earlier with their next generation of Ryzen CPUs. It can't be cost effective having to send out boot kits to everyone who needs them. -------------
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Posted By: beekermartin
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2020 at 10:07am
You are correct. I shouldn't have posted my issue here since your issue is different than mine. I love the fact that AMD decided to make their motherboards compatible with multi generations of CPUs. With that said AMD should have made it a standard that all motherboards had the ability to upgrade the bios without a CPU. I know this same issue can happen with Intel. I feel at this point we should be able to upgrade the bios on any motherboard without requiring a CPU. Even if that meant we had to replace the bios chip itself. Anyway, my issue is a bad motherboard and that can happen to any manufacturer. |
Posted By: Blatherskite
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2020 at 5:43am
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So UPDATE After a lot of trouble, I got a setup that by all rights should be working. The setup is here: Motherboard: ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate CPU: RYZEN 5 2600 GPU: Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX 5500 XT Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) PSU: Antec NeoECO 620W Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Solid State Drive Case: NZXT H510 I 've double and triple checked all cable placements and component seating. I went to power it on and got the red-light post code 'b0' or '60', plus a continuous cycle of the machine powering up, the LEDs starting a slow pulse while the screen stayed dark, a moment of the fans whirring, and then the machine powering off, only to power itself back on again. This continued indefinitely until I turned off the power myself. This is the exact same problem I had when I tried to make it work with the r5 3600, and I thought the problem was the lack of BIOS update but the only difference now is that there was no error code when it did this for the 3600. Including photos of the setup and code: https://imgur.com/a/MdHJvBG Just... what the hell is happening now? ------------- MW |
Posted By: beekermartin
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2020 at 12:31pm
I won't know for 100% sure until I receive a replacement X470 Taichi that I can test with my 3700x but it is probably safe to assume your issue is the same as mine. The motherboard is either defective or someone in the supply chain corrupted the bios trying to do an update. Either way an RMA is the only option if you are out of the return window with the retailer like I was. This episode has reminded me why I always test all my electronics ASAP when they arrive. In this instance I wasn't able to do that because I am helping a friend build a system and I didn't have all the pieces necessary to test it within the return window. I promise that I will never to offer a friend help again unless they are willing to order everything necessary to test it within a certain time frame. I don't want to go through this fiasco again. |
Posted By: Blatherskite
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2020 at 2:27pm
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I certainly hope it's not that, but that will be close to the only option if my final attempt doesn't work tomorrow: I'm replacing the RAM sticks entirely, as someone helpfully pointed out they weren't QVL listed and selecting from that list might make it work. At one point I assumed the motherboard was defective, and have thus ordered a new one and have it on the way, so at least if that's the case I'll have an alternative at the ready. ------------- MW |