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Topic: cpu and vga fans spinning, no post, black screen
Posted By: gmt
Subject: cpu and vga fans spinning, no post, black screen
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 5:44pm
Hello ,so I've got the following issue, I've downgraded an Asrock AB350 Fatal1ty itx from 6.50 to 5.30 according to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzqwjVDKAnU&list=FLWf5ZXCVyoEnt6nf-36fJuQ , all went by the book, no errors, restarted into bios afterwards, 5.30 was there, the background also red, not black as in 6.x versions, changed the XMP and restarted, booted into windows, did various stuff from windows update to 2004 version, a little gaming, temps were fine, only thing I have noticed was that my previous saved profiles were still there, which I assumed will be deleted at bios update. Still after several hours I have shutdown the PC. Next day at start cpu, vga fans are spinning but no post , black screen , monitor shows no signal for hdmi. Tried all I could think of, changed hdmi cable, reset cmos, removed battery, still the same, I am kinda out of ideas and I do not have other system to swap components. It is strange how it was working for a full day almost and after an overnight stop does not work anymore.

So the specs are as follows:
Asrock AB350 Fatal1ty Itx
16 GB Gskill FlareX 3200 cas 14
Ryzen 1600
Gigabyte nVidia Windforce 1060 6GB
Corsair 600W PSU

Any ideas are welcomed.


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Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
Ryzen 5 1600
16GB Gskill FlareX (f4-3200c14d-16gfx)
Crucial BX100 256Gb
Gigabyte Windforce 1060 6Gb
Corsair 600w
Node202
Noctua NH-9La



Replies:
Posted By: ThreeDee
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 6:11pm
One thing I had to do once was remove all the RAM .. turn the PC on, let it run for about a minute .. and then turn off (unplug power hit power button), plug RAM back in and then my system fired back up. Something to try if you want.

Might not hurt to just reseat everything else while your in there ..

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|Ryzen 5 5900|ASRock X570 Taichi-BIOS 4.60|2x16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200@3600 1:1 IF|ASRock RX 6700XT|2 x PCIe 4.0 M.2 Drives for OS & Games|850 WTT Seasonic 80+ Titanium PSU|Noctua NH-D15|


Posted By: gmt
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 6:45pm
Thank you, but it made no difference, just tried it. I have to fins another mobo, cpu and vga card to test my components and the mobo itself.

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Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
Ryzen 5 1600
16GB Gskill FlareX (f4-3200c14d-16gfx)
Crucial BX100 256Gb
Gigabyte Windforce 1060 6Gb
Corsair 600w
Node202
Noctua NH-9La


Posted By: ThreeDee
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 6:54pm
also try just one stick of memory at a time in either slot if you haven't already

..as well as unplug everything that is not required to boot to BIOS

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|Ryzen 5 5900|ASRock X570 Taichi-BIOS 4.60|2x16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200@3600 1:1 IF|ASRock RX 6700XT|2 x PCIe 4.0 M.2 Drives for OS & Games|850 WTT Seasonic 80+ Titanium PSU|Noctua NH-D15|


Posted By: gmt
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 6:59pm
:-(, one mem stick I have already tried it, one by one in each dimm slot , also I am booting just with the hdmi and power cable, still no joy.

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Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
Ryzen 5 1600
16GB Gskill FlareX (f4-3200c14d-16gfx)
Crucial BX100 256Gb
Gigabyte Windforce 1060 6Gb
Corsair 600w
Node202
Noctua NH-9La


Posted By: ThreeDee
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 7:04pm
Originally posted by gmt gmt wrote:

:-(, one mem stick I have already tried it, one by one in each dimm slot , also I am booting just with the hdmi and power cable, still no joy.
I'm assuming that's HDMI into your video card and not into mobo HDMI port?

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|Ryzen 5 5900|ASRock X570 Taichi-BIOS 4.60|2x16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200@3600 1:1 IF|ASRock RX 6700XT|2 x PCIe 4.0 M.2 Drives for OS & Games|850 WTT Seasonic 80+ Titanium PSU|Noctua NH-D15|


Posted By: gmt
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 7:12pm
Yes :-)

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Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
Ryzen 5 1600
16GB Gskill FlareX (f4-3200c14d-16gfx)
Crucial BX100 256Gb
Gigabyte Windforce 1060 6Gb
Corsair 600w
Node202
Noctua NH-9La


Posted By: ThreeDee
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 7:22pm
I run the same mobo in my daughter's rig with a 3600x, 2 x 16GB 3000mhz Team Group Blue LED stuff @ 3200mhz with RX 570 4GB, NVMe 256gb drive & 1TB secondary drive.. Thermaltake Smart RGB Series 500Wtt ..it's been rock solid.

Hopefully you can figure out the faulty part(s) without to much fanfare .. pain in the but to troubleshoot when you don't have extra parts or other PC's readily available for the part swappage.

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|Ryzen 5 5900|ASRock X570 Taichi-BIOS 4.60|2x16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200@3600 1:1 IF|ASRock RX 6700XT|2 x PCIe 4.0 M.2 Drives for OS & Games|850 WTT Seasonic 80+ Titanium PSU|Noctua NH-D15|


Posted By: gmt
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 7:42pm
Yes, well good intentions ... I wanted to do something similar but with a gaming cpu as it will be mainly used for gaming, so I've bought the 3300x, this is why I have upgraded the bios, the problem is that in the Node202 that cpu is very hot with the box stealth cooler and the nh-9La, in gaming was reaching 85-90C after one hour or so.I have reseated the cpu cooler several times, with no luck, the only acceptable temps were with the case open on the table. So the other option was to buy another cooler, like cryorig c7 or alpenfön black ridge, more money for an uncertain result. As the 1st gen Ryzen 1600 is "not recommended" to be run with the latest bios I've decided to downgrade and after some search I reached to that video. The rest you know. Thank you for the advice and stay safe.

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Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
Ryzen 5 1600
16GB Gskill FlareX (f4-3200c14d-16gfx)
Crucial BX100 256Gb
Gigabyte Windforce 1060 6Gb
Corsair 600w
Node202
Noctua NH-9La


Posted By: ThreeDee
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 7:54pm
I had to move my daughters stuff out her ITX case due to the RX 570 just putting out too much heat..into a full ATX case .. the 3600x has my old 2700x stock cooler on it so it keeps it plenty cool.

The ATX case is my old one .. has a window and running 5 120mm RGB fans keeps every thing nice and cool (setup in her bedroom in the basement) .. plus she's 11 and likes the "pretty lights"

Sounds like something got possibly cooked ..

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|Ryzen 5 5900|ASRock X570 Taichi-BIOS 4.60|2x16GB HyperX Predator RGB 3200@3600 1:1 IF|ASRock RX 6700XT|2 x PCIe 4.0 M.2 Drives for OS & Games|850 WTT Seasonic 80+ Titanium PSU|Noctua NH-D15|


Posted By: gmt
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 11:43pm
Well, managed to test my cpu, ram and videocard with another board, all work ok, unfortunately the owner had an 3700x so I could not test my Asrock mobo itself. Still all is pointing to the mobo being somehow bricked. Strange that the fans are spinning on both cpu and vga, still no beeps from the speaker. :-(

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Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
Ryzen 5 1600
16GB Gskill FlareX (f4-3200c14d-16gfx)
Crucial BX100 256Gb
Gigabyte Windforce 1060 6Gb
Corsair 600w
Node202
Noctua NH-9La


Posted By: yuanyasmine
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 1:39pm
Did it ever beep before? and when it did, what were the issues?

I seriously think that it's some serious hardware issue because you didn't make any change. Was there anything like voltage fluctuations? Did something like this ever happen before? Were there any issues like this with that PC?

Anyway, try these basic things:

1. Reset your BIOS (Use the 2-pin jumper cap and short it with a metal object for a minute or remove that button cell battery for 5 minutes and put it back in)

2. Remove the GPU and plug the display into the motherboard video output.

Tell if it displays anything. Try entering the BIOS by pressing F2/Delete or whatever key specified when it starts.


Posted By: yuanyasmine
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 1:51pm
You did have the computer off when you cleared them right? And did you do as beenthere suggested and pull the battery for a few seconds. Make sure you unplug the computer and push the power button first to clear any residual energy, then remove the battery for a few seconds and replace. Does the computer act like it's running, when you turn it on? You know, keyboard lights flickering, mouse lighting up, maybe a hdd indicator flickering. To turn it off do you have to hold the power button down for apprx 5/6 secs before it turns off or does it turn off as soon as you hit the power button for 1 sec? If it's the 1 sec deal then you're either in bios or they won't even load. Hope they didn't get corrupted the first time you reset them. If it's the 5 second deal then the computer is most likely running, you just don't see anything. If that's the case try re-seating the video card or try a temp video card. And make sure you plugged everything back up after taking it apart the first time. Might have missed a power plug of something simple hopefully.

For more solutions: https://iboysoft.com/data-recovery/windows-10-black-screen.html


Posted By: gmt
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 2:00pm
Hi, thank you for reply, tried option 1 , even left the motherboard with the battery unplugged overnight. Cannot use the motherboard video output as I have a Ryzen 1600, no onboard graphics in it :-). The whole point is that it does not display anything, no bios menu at startup or whatever, monitor just shows that it receives no signal. As I tested, the vga card, memory and cpu work fine on another motherboard. I am currently seeking a cheap ryzen apu to make a final test before declaring the mobo dead.

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Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
Ryzen 5 1600
16GB Gskill FlareX (f4-3200c14d-16gfx)
Crucial BX100 256Gb
Gigabyte Windforce 1060 6Gb
Corsair 600w
Node202
Noctua NH-9La



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