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x470 Taichi, 3.50 to 4.60 BIOS Update

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Topic: x470 Taichi, 3.50 to 4.60 BIOS Update
Posted By: WowMike2002
Subject: x470 Taichi, 3.50 to 4.60 BIOS Update
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2021 at 7:53am
I am curious how long the 'technical support' emails take to have responded to? It has been working on the 3rd day now and still nothing.

I used my 2700x on my x470 Taichi to update to 4.60 to install my new 5900x processor. After the update finished and it powers down.. it no longer posts. Have done all the checks and boxes (I am a Systems Administrator, work on computers day to day). Everything from swapping memory, to a single memory stick, clearing CMOS and everything. no official post code other than '00' with the 2700x, while the 5900x has no post code show up at all.

Attempting to get a fix for this ASAP as this is also my work computer, rather frustrating not having a Flashback available.

Still fully under warranty, and also snagged an extended warranty as a just in case through Newegg.



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Posted By: StefaanC
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 5:07am
Strip down the entire system, just keep cpu and atx power supply and start computer wait 20 second and press again on power button , if it shuts don immediately ok thats when in the bios . then add 1 ram and repeat, then then videocard and repeat and so on till it does not boot and be note the 5500x needs more power then a 2700x .

I had on the x399 taichi a 1000watt PSU due to the entiry setup , 128 gb ddr4 raid 6 card running 8 sas disks sobe carefull what the computer is asking.


Posted By: muziqaz
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 10:52pm
5900x and 2700x both have same TDP: 105W

What Asrock did not anticipate is that people will want to upgrade from 2000 series to 5000 series on their x470 motherboards, and currently according to their documentations there is no way to update the BIOS to latest if you have 2000 series CPU :/

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Posted By: eszed556
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 11:29pm
Hi. I'm in the same situation as OP, except I haven't attempted the swap.

Current specs:

Ryzen 2700
ASRock X470 Taichi (P1.60 BIOS)
4 x 8GB CL14 RAM 3200MHz XMP enabled
1000W PSU

I'd like to swap the 2700 with the 5950x. As per ASRock support page, BIOS 4.60 supports Ryzen 5000 series.

However, I don't know whether to jump directly to 4.60 from 1.60 or 1.60 > 2.00 > 4.60 or any other combination.

Has anyone successfully moved from Ryzen 2xxx to 5xxx on an X470 board?


Posted By: muziqaz
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 11:37pm
Jumping from 1.60 to 4.60 will definitely brick your motherboard.

Updating to 2.00 first and then to 4.60 might work, but might be same as what happened here

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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 12:00am
in theory the option to update bios from internet in bios should give you the correct paths/order of updates

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Posted By: eszed556
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 12:13pm
Through their support channel, an ASRock rep advised to move from 1.60 to 2.00 then 4.60. I'll give it a shot this weekend and revert.


Posted By: muziqaz
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 2:57pm
Originally posted by eszed556 eszed556 wrote:

Through their support channel, an ASRock rep advised to move from 1.60 to 2.00 then 4.60. I'll give it a shot this weekend and revert.


Best of luck :)

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Posted By: eszed556
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 12:05pm
1.60 > 2.00 > 4.60 was a success. Thanks for the responses.

I have paired the 5950x with a Noctua NH-D15 cooler. It idles at 32C. Ran Prime 95 for 20 mins and CPU peaked at 75C. Should improve as the thermal paste cures I guess.

XMP 2.0 is stable thus far (B-Die). The hardest part was installing the CPU cooler. I have a CM HAF 912 that houses 4 sticks of RAM, a 3080 and this massive cooler. Hands are full of cuts and nicks.

Interestingly my 2700 booted successfully on BIOS 4.60.

I had installed the latest chipset drivers (from AMD's site) prior to the BIOS flash. Do I need to do anything else post CPU swap? Some OS settings were off - other than that, so far so good.


Posted By: muziqaz
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2021 at 5:24pm
Great stuff.
AMD says that 5000 series does not need special power plan anymore, like they did with 2000-3000 series

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Posted By: eszed556
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2021 at 1:00am
Thanks for your help muziqaz.

Though I eventually read about 1.6 > 2 > 4.6 as the advised update path on other forums, it was your post here which was the first.


Posted By: BelchedHarmony
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 12:10pm
Yo Yo Yo!

I just went from Ryzen 5 2-something to Ryzen 7 5900x.

I will add a little detail concerning the steps to follow, since I had to do the whole process twice in order for it to work and I hope you won't do the same mistake I did.

"1.60 to 2.00 to 4.60" is the way to go, but you need to upgrade to 4.60 BEFORE putting the 5000 series.

1. Upgrade your Ryzen 2000 series from 1.00 to 1.60, then from 1.60 to 2.00.
2. At this point, you can still use your PC. It will work fine.
3. Upgrade your Ryzen 2000 series from 2.00 to 4.60.
4. At this point, your PC and CPU can't talk to each other anymore. You will enter an endless boot if you try to use your PC so make sure you're all set.
5. Change the CPU from 2000 to 5000.
6. It works.

I thought I needed to do the 2.00 to 4.60 upgrade AFTER having changed the CPU, but when I tried that, I got an endless boot.

Man...I had to remove/install/remove/reinstall/re-remove/re-reinstall everything!

I wish I had known that you need to upgrade the BIOS (and temporary make your PC obsolete) BEFORE putting the new CPU in!


Posted By: BelchedHarmony
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2022 at 8:49am
EDIT:

After three days of finding the performance underwhelming and temperature way hotter than expected. Also, all the wattage information was missing in Ryzen Master.

I read about people with the same issue and updating the BIOS (again) seemed to resolve the issue.

I thus updated the bios from 4.60 to 4.70.

Than things finally started making sense:
CPU temps went from 90 to 75 while gaming
GPU temps also decreased by 15 degrees.

So don't forget to update to 4.70!



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