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Topic: Xml Profile 2.0 not working with RAM
Posted By: Gridmstr75
Subject: Xml Profile 2.0 not working with RAM
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2022 at 3:10am
Need some help before i run out and upgrade my MB,

I have had this setup for a while and did not realize or forgot that the RAM setup for FREQ was set to Auto and not XMl profile like Userbenchmark indicated after test. I rebooted went into to bios and the XML profile is on AUTO i changed it to Xml 2.0 profile and the PC will not boot or POST now. what is the issue.
I have two modules in slot 1 and slot3 did not boot up after saving and exiting out of bios

i changed the modules to slot 2 and 4 same thing.

Specs:

Asrock ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming

Ram - Gskill - DDR4-3200(1600) - i can send screenshots of CPU z if needed. i have discord account.




Replies:
Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2022 at 2:24pm
Hi @Gridmstr75

layman's explanation, not technically correct, but easy to understand, even if it's written wrong: -

becausesss
1) your bios version does not contain your ram spec
2) your ram timing CL not EVEN numbers, Ryzen don't like 15, 17, 19

so your solution is in this = https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/post-29010423" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/post-29010423

I mean it seriously.

a quick and dirty summary repeating a part of the link I gave, make sure.
1) vddr_SOC = 1.1v
2) cldo_VDDP = 1v
3) vddg_IOD = 1.1v
4) vddg_CCD = 1.1v
5) procODT = 48 ohms

old bios or bios without sufficient library will sometimes stupid be
1) vddr_SOC = 0.9v
2) cldo_VDDP = 0.7v old Zen1 days
3) vddg_IOD = 0.9v
4) vddg_CCD = 0.9v
5) procODT = 36 ohms
hence can't boot.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2022 at 4:53am
thanks for the reply

couple things i did, I replaced the CMOS battery and reset the bios. that helped a lot, I moved the modules back to slot 2 and 4 per the manual to handle higher freq, i went into bios and change the xml profile and changed the freq to 2666 instead of 3200 , so now it is working ok and not bluescreen crashing but still not getting the right Freq at 3200, should i upgrade the Bios to 7.1? beta do i need a new CPU ?


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2022 at 4:46pm
Hi,

No need new CPU.

Good to update bios to 7.1 - may be contains extra library to help your ram.... may be

but the root of the problem is you don't have enough various voltages to run 3200Mhz, hence I repeat

a quick and dirty summary repeating a part of the link I gave, make sure.
1) vddr_SOC = 1.1v
2) cldo_VDDP = 1v
3) vddg_IOD = 1.1v
4) vddg_CCD = 1.1v
5) procODT = 48 ohms

Did you check this? do you know how to check this?

a quick way to check is download zentiming and it will show everything.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2022 at 11:57pm
I have not tried yet. can you receommend other tools that i need like zentimer ?

thanks for your help


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2022 at 12:56pm
Hello @Gridmstr75

free download from https://zentimings.protonrom.com/" rel="nofollow - https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

to check voltages
1) vddr_SOC = 1.1v
2) cldo_VDDP = 1v
3) vddg_IOD = 1.1v
4) vddg_CCD = 1.1v
5) procODT = 48 ohms

= https://www.overclock.net/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.overclock.net/attachments/whatsapp-image-2022-08-10-at-8-42-48-pm-jpeg.2569121/" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.overclock.net/attachments/whatsapp-image-2022-08-10-at-8-42-48-pm-jpeg.2569121/


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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2022 at 3:28pm
Thanks for sharing the links cx5.

Getting XMP to work is often impossible with Ryzen. As cx5 has already shared, the
best way to get the most out of your RAM is use tools to manually configure it.
This is because DDR4 varies wildly in it's spec. DDR4 came out alongside x99,
intel's HEDT platform that was the first to use it. Then we has issues when Skylake
dropped (100 series). By the time AM4 rolled around DDR4 standards were already
a bit of a mess, only made worse by the fact that Ryzen used an entirely new
memory controller. Fortunately, it is usually possible to get at least close to
XMP speeds by manually configuring your RAM in the UEFI.

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Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2022 at 9:37pm
thanks for the info , can you recommend hardware tools that i can use to monitor hardware, cpu temps, life span etc?


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2022 at 11:51am
I use ASrock's ATuning from x570 taichi for x370 taichi :)

and
CoreTemp 1.17.1 = https://core-temp.en.softonic.com/?utm_source=SEM&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=EN_UK_DSA" rel="nofollow - https://core-temp.en.softonic.com/?utm_source=SEM&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=EN_UK_DSA

and
All CPU Meter V 4.7.3 by Addgadgets.com


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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2022 at 7:01am
I ran zen timer - here is the output:
https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2022 at 7:01am
<img src=" https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg" alt="zentimer-settings.jpg" border="0" />


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2022 at 7:03am
Also updated to 7.1: https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/cpu-z-mb-bios.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/cpu-z-mb-bios.jpg



Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2022 at 7:29am
How do i go about changing the timing settings for the bios , I updated the bios to 7.10 latest. thanks for assistance.


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2022 at 11:08am
Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:

I ran zen timer - here is the output:
https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg


Please tell me if you've read this or not ??? please confirm back.
Posted: 15 Aug 2022 at 2:24pm
so your solution is in this = https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/post-29010423

I hope you've read it and understand them, it is of PARAMOUNT importance.

But I'll make an effort to try to simplify (but no easy way to be honest): -
1) boot into UEFI
2) load XMP
3) do NOT reboot
4) immediately check parameters
F12 function key screen capture UEFI into USB thumbdrive if you want to shows us.
4-1) NOT check hardware monitor readings in realtime.
4-2) check the settings for which you'll save setup and reboot and take effect for next reboot.
4-3) CHECK vddr_SOC voltage setting for next reboot must be 1.1v for XMP, versus existing 2133mhz VSOC(SVI2) default only 0.825v hence failed to let XMP boot - do you understand this point now? please confirm back.
5) check below all these same as point 4-3)
>vddr_SOC = 1.1v
>cldo_VDDP = 1v
>vddg_IOD = 1.1v
>vddg_CCD = 1.1v
>procODT = 48 ohms for my ram
>>> they are not all in one page, you have to go to as many pages as you need to find them and verify them.
>>>>>>if any of those voltages are NOT then your XMP will not boot.

your zentiming 2133mhz shows CLDO_VDDP 0.95v, do you see this on your zentiming? Please confirm back. 0.95v is just about enough to boot XMP, change to 1v to be sure.

Change GDM to enable next time. GDM = Gear Down Mode. Must for you.

and yes I know you are on Zen1+ 12nm 2600x, may be without vddg_IOD and CCD, I'm not sure, but if there's none then ignore, if there's option to set vddg voltages then make sure they're both 1.1v else XMP cannot boot.

your procODT is 60ohms, is OK for now.

Above was all voltages.

_____________________________________________________________________________________

Below is all timing (the hard part)
1) You need to show us your ram's XMP original timing,
2) It can be found in your UEFI bios screen
2-1) see my example https://www.overclock.net/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.overclock.net/attachments/whatsapp-image-2022-08-10-at-8-54-51-pm-jpeg.2569122/
2-2) F12 function key will screen capture UEFI into USB thumb drive - else use a cellphone camera.

>>>>>>Again you must read this Posted: 15 Aug 2022 at 2:24pm
so your solution is in this = https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/post-29010423

3) LAST/Else you can try to boot and hope you are lucky that your timing might be compatible where with the above corrected voltages will be successful to boot.

If you managed to boot XMP succesfully, please show us your XMP zentiming, because XMP boot windows idle ok, but sometimes crash in games or heavy CPU workload, due to some timing mismatch due to XMP load half not load other half. Need to make sure by using zentiming to capture what's the actual full or not full XMP being loaded.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2022 at 2:46am
I did read it however some of those settings do not apply to my MB i do not see the names and or they are different i will check it again.. https://forum.asrock.com/smileys/smiley4.gif" rel="nofollow - https://forum.asrock.com/smileys/smiley4.gif


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2022 at 9:24am
Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:

I did read it however some of those settings do not apply to my MB i do not see the names and or they are different i will check it again.. https://forum.asrock.com/smileys/smiley4.gif" rel="nofollow - https://forum.asrock.com/smileys/smiley4.gif


Only SOC have many different way to write.

vddr_soc asrock = vsoc(svi2) in zentiming = vcore soc in gigabyte = vsoc in atuning

v = voltage is the meaning
soc = sysmtem on chip = memory controller, usb, audio, etc etc

apart from soc voltage possible ambiguity, others terms are exact.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2022 at 11:46pm
ok once i set it to XML do i set the freq to 3200 ? there is a broad list of freq to pick ?ty


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2022 at 11:25am
Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:

ok once i set it to XML do i set the freq to 3200 ? there is a broad list of freq to pick ?ty

you mean XMP right? not XML!!!
Answer is NO.

because only when you have enough voltages for below items:-
>vddr_SOC = 1.1v (zen 1 & above)
>cldo_VDDP = 1v (zen 1 & above)
>vddg_IOD = 1.1v (zen 2 & above)
>vddg_CCD = 1.1v (zen 2 & above)
then you can select 3200mhz

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2022 at 5:58am
sorry for the delay.

been very busy. I recenlty upgraded to a different GPU . however i know this is a post about RAM.



Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2022 at 3:15am
can you assist again on this. I need some help. I can finally get to it now. sorry


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2022 at 11:21am
Originally posted by cx5 cx5 wrote:

Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:

ok once i set it to XML do i set the freq to 3200 ? there is a broad list of freq to pick ?ty

you mean XMP right? not XML!!!
Answer is NO.

because only when you have enough voltages for below items:-
>vddr_SOC = 1.1v (zen 1 & above)
>cldo_VDDP = 1v (zen 1 & above)
>vddg_IOD = 1.1v (zen 2 & above)
>vddg_CCD = 1.1v (zen 2 & above)
then you can select 3200mhz


@Gridmstr75

You are Zen 1, so you need to manually set CLDO_VDDP to 1 volt, you have to find this in uefi manually. Your zentiming doesn't show CLDO_VDDP voltages, it is greyed out unfortunately, but you must set it manually to 1 volt. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view

you are not Zen 2, hence ignore vddg IOD and CCD.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2022 at 11:25am
Originally posted by cx5 cx5 wrote:

Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:

I ran zen timer - here is the output:
https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg


Please tell me if you've read this or not ??? please confirm back.
Posted: 15 Aug 2022 at 2:24pm
so your solution is in this = https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/post-29010423

I hope you've read it and understand them, it is of PARAMOUNT importance.



You need to see your full ram spec like this picture
https://www.overclock.net/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.overclock.net/attachments/whatsapp-image-2022-08-10-at-8-54-51-pm-jpeg.2569122/

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2022 at 11:50am
quote @Gridmstr75 post https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=25014&PID=101647&title=oc-xml-enabled-anything-else#101647" rel="nofollow - https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=25014&PID=101647&title=oc-xml-enabled-anything-else#101647

your zentiming shows 2867mhz, this is what you are actually running now.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view

Lets help you achieve 3200Mhz first, and using your original XMP and CPU ram load test make sure no BSOD no crash etc. After you can run 3200Mhz original XMP then overclock later. Before achieve full stability at 3200Mhz original XMP no point to overclock.

your zentiming shows tRC 67, which is not 48 shown by your CPU_Z_SPD which is original XMP.

CPU_Z_SPD also does not show tRFC, tRFC2, tRFC4, tRRDL, tRRDS, tFAW, that's why I kept asking you to show zentming

and that's why I kept asked you to read https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/page-504#post-29010423" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/page-504#post-29010423

I think this is the 4th time or 5th I ask you to read it....... since first post to you 15 Aug 2022 at 2:24pm

you need

VSOC 1.1v
CLDO_VDDP 1v
your original XMP
tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS, tRC, tRFC, tRFC2, tRFC4, tRRDL, tRRDS, tFAW, end.
finally 3200mhz will run.

after you are sure you key in all the XMP original timing, but 3200Mhz don't run, then try 2933Mhz first, if OK, then next try UP the VSOC from 1.1v to 1.15v and try 3200Mhz again. ALL the while make sure the original XMP timing are used, to be proven by zentming after you boot into windows.

throw away CPU_Z, it is useless for what you want to achieve. All you need to look at is zentiming.


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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2022 at 10:57am
Originally posted by cx5 cx5 wrote:

quote @Gridmstr75 post https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=25014&PID=101647&title=oc-xml-enabled-anything-else#101647" rel="nofollow - https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=25014&PID=101647&title=oc-xml-enabled-anything-else#101647

your zentiming shows 2867mhz, this is what you are actually running now.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view

Lets help you achieve 3200Mhz first, and using your original XMP and CPU ram load test make sure no BSOD no crash etc. After you can run 3200Mhz original XMP then overclock later. Before achieve full stability at 3200Mhz original XMP no point to overclock.

your zentiming shows tRC 67, which is not 48 shown by your CPU_Z_SPD which is original XMP.

CPU_Z_SPD also does not show tRFC, tRFC2, tRFC4, tRRDL, tRRDS, tFAW, that's why I kept asking you to show zentming

and that's why I kept asked you to read https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/page-504#post-29010423" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/page-504#post-29010423

I think this is the 4th time or 5th I ask you to read it....... since first post to you 15 Aug 2022 at 2:24pm

you need

VSOC 1.1v
CLDO_VDDP 1v
your original XMP
tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS, tRC, tRFC, tRFC2, tRFC4, tRRDL, tRRDS, tFAW, end.
finally 3200mhz will run.

after you are sure you key in all the XMP original timing, but 3200Mhz don't run, then try 2933Mhz first, if OK, then next try UP the VSOC from 1.1v to 1.15v and try 3200Mhz again. ALL the while make sure the original XMP timing are used, to be proven by zentming after you boot into windows.

throw away CPU_Z, it is useless for what you want to achieve. All you need to look at is zentiming.


ok i checking now thanks for help..


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2022 at 11:08am
Originally posted by cx5 cx5 wrote:

Originally posted by cx5 cx5 wrote:

Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:

ok once i set it to XML do i set the freq to 3200 ? there is a broad list of freq to pick ?ty

you mean XMP right? not XML!!!
Answer is NO.

because only when you have enough voltages for below items:-
>vddr_SOC = 1.1v (zen 1 & above)
>cldo_VDDP = 1v (zen 1 & above)
>vddg_IOD = 1.1v (zen 2 & above)
>vddg_CCD = 1.1v (zen 2 & above)
then you can select 3200mhz


@Gridmstr75

You are Zen 1, so you need to manually set CLDO_VDDP to 1 volt, you have to find this in uefi manually. Your zentiming doesn't show CLDO_VDDP voltages, it is greyed out unfortunately, but you must set it manually to 1 volt. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view

you are not Zen 2, hence ignore vddg IOD and CCD.


where do i find this in the bios -
t, you have to find this in uefi manually. Your zentiming doesn't show CLDO_VDDP voltages, it is ?


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2022 at 11:34am
just want to highlight:-
SOC will go up to 1.1v when XMP is loaded, hence can boot for sure, no longer like the old days of 2020/2021 after loading XMP but SOC remains 0.925v and crash on heavy loads.
CLDO_VDDP will go up to 1v when XMP is loaded, hence can boot for sure, in the older days some bioses are still stupid and left on 0.7v hence crash on heavy loads. Especially Zen1 days.
VDDG IOD and CCD will go up to 1.1v when XMP is loaded, hence can boot for sure, versus old days some bioses was left @ 0.9v hence crash on heavy loads.
procODT is still stupid at 36.9ohms only, I have to manually up it to 48ohms, this is the minimum I need not to crash, else even 43ohms will crash once in a blue moon.
ram-timing for secondaries still cannot be read from XMP, notably the tRC, tRRDS, tRRDL & tFAW were auto calculated by bios and is far off from my ram kits, hence I gotto input them manually.
ram-timing tRFC, tRFC2, tRFC4, are correctly calculated by bios, as before version of beta bioses also, not sure will be correct for you or not, you must check.
1.35v was achieved once XMP is loaded, but in HWinfo reading only 1.33v like many previous beta bioses, hence got to manually up to 1.38v in UEFI then HWinfo shows 1.36v in windows, which is just a tad more than 1.35 for maximum stability.
some of the older beta bioses were experimenting with SOCv, CLDO_VDDP, VDDG IOD CCD, sometimes default as high as 1.15v, which I think recently they realized released (typo mistake) is not neccesary, I recall beta 4.88 and beta 4.86 has been as the currect SOC 1.1v, CLDO_VDDP 1v, both VDDG 1.1v will give maximum stability.
also the load line level was auto = level 5, which I experience crash in the past, hence manually set them to level 3.


please give me a better breakdown of how to find these settings given my Motherboard and bios version?

also do i go off the above instructions or these settings?

edit 2022 Aug 15th add screen capture of zentiming and voltages.
in short, must make sure.
1) vddr_SOC = 1.1v
2) cldo_VDDP = 1v
3) vddg_IOD = 1.1v
4) vddg_CCD = 1.1v

A) procODT = 48 ohms for my ram

I know there is some language barrier here I am from USA. please assist thank you



Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2022 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:

please give me a better breakdown of how to find these settings given my Motherboard and bios version?

answer = uefi revision has changed too many times, the UI changes, it's hard for me or anyone to make a pictorial manual for you, you'll need to find them in your uefi by your own effort to dig in deep.

also do i go off the above instructions or these settings?

answer =

Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:

Originally posted by cx5 cx5 wrote:

quote @Gridmstr75 post https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=25014&PID=101647&title=oc-xml-enabled-anything-else#101647" rel="nofollow - https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=25014&PID=101647&title=oc-xml-enabled-anything-else#101647

your zentiming shows 2867mhz, this is what you are actually running now.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pO_1eUbNf_WPXv-8_Op9hd9fBNMjzJw1/view

you need

1) VSOC 1.1v
2) CLDO_VDDP 1v
3) inside uefi DRAM INFO of something of this name is shows your original XMP = tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS, tRC, tRFC, tRFC2, tRFC4, tRRDL, tRRDS, tFAW, end.

copy them down on a piece a paper and enter them manually next time, especially when you LOAD XMP, but some of the parameters does not appear, i.e. your tRC

finally 3200mhz will run.



ok i checking now thanks for help..





It's hard to spoon feed you every single steps, all the information are provided as clearly as it could, many screen shots provided as well as instructions + highlights written inside the screen shots.

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Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 1:02am
It is not really hard to assist me if you know more than me and have done this before.
I have attached screenshots of the BIOS to assist in this setup. please help if you are not willing to go that extra step then SOMEONE can assist.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/10qthfXlMM-agjppz0RKLtkX8u3Bf0Qw8/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/10qthfXlMM-agjppz0RKLtkX8u3Bf0Qw8/view?usp=sharing ,

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18F5_XVGmMGCaGJGp4AL3GgSlprQWcaUN/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/18F5_XVGmMGCaGJGp4AL3GgSlprQWcaUN/view?usp=sharing ,

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X9jLByQz7pH-6qGVIpmdTagMBt9r56qg/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X9jLByQz7pH-6qGVIpmdTagMBt9r56qg/view?usp=sharing ,

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eF13q-A_XfkLfVJM9CitjyeoUBkUoUWo/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eF13q-A_XfkLfVJM9CitjyeoUBkUoUWo/view?usp=sharing


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 3:31am
Originally posted by cx5 cx5 wrote:

Hi @Gridmstr75

layman's explanation, not technically correct, but easy to understand, even if it's written wrong: -

becausesss
1) your bios version does not contain your ram spec
2) your ram timing CL not EVEN numbers, Ryzen don't like 15, 17, 19

so your solution is in this = https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/post-29010423" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/post-29010423

I mean it seriously.

a quick and dirty summary repeating a part of the link I gave, make sure.
1) vddr_SOC = 1.1v
2) cldo_VDDP = 1v
3) vddg_IOD = 1.1v
4) vddg_CCD = 1.1v
5) procODT = 48 ohms

old bios or bios without sufficient library will sometimes stupid be
1) vddr_SOC = 0.9v
2) cldo_VDDP = 0.7v old Zen1 days
3) vddg_IOD = 0.9v
4) vddg_CCD = 0.9v
5) procODT = 36 ohms
hence can't boot.



layman's explanation, not technically correct, but easy to understand, even if it's written wrong: -

WTF ?


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 7:13am
Originally posted by cx5 cx5 wrote:

Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:

I ran zen timer - here is the output:
https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://tinypic.host/images/2022/08/19/zentimer-settings.jpg


Please tell me if you've read this or not ??? please confirm back.
Posted: 15 Aug 2022 at 2:24pm
so your solution is in this = https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/post-29010423

I hope you've read it and understand them, it is of PARAMOUNT importance.

But I'll make an effort to try to simplify (but no easy way to be honest): -
1) boot into UEFI
2) load XMP
3) do NOT reboot
4) immediately check parameters
F12 function key screen capture UEFI into USB thumbdrive if you want to shows us.
4-1) NOT check hardware monitor readings in realtime.
4-2) check the settings for which you'll save setup and reboot and take effect for next reboot.
4-3) CHECK vddr_SOC voltage setting for next reboot must be 1.1v for XMP, versus existing 2133mhz VSOC(SVI2) default only 0.825v hence failed to let XMP boot - do you understand this point now? please confirm back.
5) check below all these same as point 4-3)
>vddr_SOC = 1.1v
>cldo_VDDP = 1v
>vddg_IOD = 1.1v
>vddg_CCD = 1.1v
>procODT = 48 ohms for my ram
>>> they are not all in one page, you have to go to as many pages as you need to find them and verify them.
>>>>>>if any of those voltages are NOT then your XMP will not boot.

your zentiming 2133mhz shows CLDO_VDDP 0.95v, do you see this on your zentiming? Please confirm back. 0.95v is just about enough to boot XMP, change to 1v to be sure.

Change GDM to enable next time. GDM = Gear Down Mode. Must for you.

and yes I know you are on Zen1+ 12nm 2600x, may be without vddg_IOD and CCD, I'm not sure, but if there's none then ignore, if there's option to set vddg voltages then make sure they're both 1.1v else XMP cannot boot.

your procODT is 60ohms, is OK for now.

Above was all voltages.

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Below is all timing (the hard part)
1) You need to show us your ram's XMP original timing,
2) It can be found in your UEFI bios screen
2-1) see my example https://www.overclock.net/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.overclock.net/attachments/whatsapp-image-2022-08-10-at-8-54-51-pm-jpeg.2569122/
2-2) F12 function key will screen capture UEFI into USB thumb drive - else use a cellphone camera.

>>>>>>Again you must read this Posted: 15 Aug 2022 at 2:24pm
so your solution is in this = https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/post-29010423

3) LAST/Else you can try to boot and hope you are lucky that your timing might be compatible where with the above corrected voltages will be successful to boot.

If you managed to boot XMP succesfully, please show us your XMP zentiming, because XMP boot windows idle ok, but sometimes crash in games or heavy CPU workload, due to some timing mismatch due to XMP load half not load other half. Need to make sure by using zentiming to capture what's the actual full or not full XMP being loaded.


I am going to go off this one.

I have updated the XMP profile 2.0
I changed the SOC voltage to 1.0
I changed the Freq to 3200 mhz.
Attached are screenshots of the bios that i used F12 to take.














please let me know next step. can we do a discord chat instead to do a one on one chat?



Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 11:04am
Originally posted by Gridmstr75 Gridmstr75 wrote:



please let me know next step. can we do a discord chat instead to do a one on one chat?



what is the discord web address that you plan to use? and what time and time zone?

Let's see if our time matches.

http://www.my-acoustic.com/images/GirdMstr75.jpg







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Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 10:49pm
Hi, I am in Mountain time zone USA.

My discord server is - Gridmstr75#4629


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2022 at 9:04am
Did you see this -> http://www.my-acoustic.com/images/GirdMstr75.jpg" rel="nofollow - http://www.my-acoustic.com/images/GirdMstr75.jpg

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3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2022 at 5:36am
suppose to be a flow chart?
i will take a look ty


Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2022 at 11:08pm
so changed the settings to what assited with.

here is zen timing currently @ freq 2866



what do i need to change next.. seems like it is stable at this point.



Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 10:54pm
ok after some more changes latest zen timing -

however i do not see VDDP loaded - i changed that in the bios to 1.1 volt.

it seems stable but mouse shows some lag issues sometimes.



Posted By: Gridmstr75
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2022 at 8:10am
i think i finally got it let me know if this looks good now? or if i am missing somehting.



Posted By: LastCount
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2022 at 12:17am
I use an ASRock X370 Fatal1ty professional gaming MB too.
The RAM I use is Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 4 x 8Gb (32Gb) 3200MHz.
I can only seem to run it at 2132MHz.

Every time I pick an XMP profile 2.0 and set the speed to 3200Mhz, the system doesn't go in after I save and exit.

It resets and the speed drops to 2132Mhz again.

Also, Does anyone know if i can upgrade my CPU from Ryzen 7 1700x to a Ryzen 9 5950x or Ryzen 7 5800X3D or 5000x?

Much appreciate the help. Thanks!



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