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x370 taichi updated 5.6 to 7.0 broke bios ui

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Topic: x370 taichi updated 5.6 to 7.0 broke bios ui
Posted By: Ev3rM0r3
Subject: x370 taichi updated 5.6 to 7.0 broke bios ui
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 11:14am
Updated my bios (with the idea of using 5800x3d) and it completed fine, after reboot it took about 3-4 cycles to figure itself out and booted to windows. After reboot when trying to enter bios through del/f2 it loads to a black screen that has a white DOT. As seen here https://imgur.com/a/8CYJis8" rel="nofollow - https://imgur.com/a/8CYJis8

Using f6 to get into the easy flash just stalls and then restarts the pc about 5-10 seconds later.

Attempting to reset the cmos with the button in the back or jumpering 10-20 seconds seems to rest the ram because now i am stuck at 2133 with my nice 3200mhz ram but I can't see the gui to change anything. But windows works fine.

I have no way to get into the bios at this point, and restart to EUFI did nothing for me either.

Things I tried. I attempted to use the 5800x3d with the chance that maybe it was now required to get into bios. Nope nothing at all on the board would boot with it installed. Not even the fans would engage. tried that single ram stick trick on both cpu's with no luck getting into bios. So whatever 7.0 did has removed me bios GUI and I can't access it any longer.

Last thing to note, hitting f11 for drive selection still has THAT part of the ui working with mouse cursor.



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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 12:37pm
7.0 is a Bridge BIOS, you are meant to go to 7.10 after.

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Posted By: Ev3rM0r3
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 1:01pm
I can't see the bios anymore. It boots to a white dot as illustrated in the picture. I was not able to get to 7.10


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 1:09pm
use your OLD cpu to boot into bios 7.0
then flash up to 7.1
shutdown
swap in the 5800x3D
boot up should be OK able to see 7.1 GUI

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Ev3rM0r3
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 1:49pm
I am using my old 1800x cpu, I have been playing on windows/apex all night. Just can't boot into the bios. No amount of trying seems to change it. Any time i enter the bios i get what is illustrated in my picture. I literally cannot get a UI to show up to do anything.


Posted By: Duodeno
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 4:16pm
I'm looking to ugrade my CPU 1800x to a 5800x on a X370 killer SLI, so I'll be in a similari situation.
Some advice for solve/prevent his (and maybe my) problem?


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 4:42pm
opppssss @Ev3rM0r3 sorry to hear....

If I were in your situation now, I would try ??rd last resort?‘to remove all items from mobo then press the reset buttom plus the clear cmos jumper and remove battery.i.e. remove CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, everything removed then press reset button remove battery use jumper. Then use 1800x with minium VGA, RAM, without SSD to boot into UEFI, fringers cross, good luck.

[2nd last resort]
but a bios flasher cable
example 1 = https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.6bb32e8d0FGOdM&id=571842034657&_u=jb8lko63a4a" rel="nofollow - https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.6bb32e8d0FGOdM&id=571842034657&_u=jb8lko63a4a

example 2 = https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001296112767.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001296112767.html

both links are dedicated ASRock bios flash (very convenient), not universal for other brands.

[last resort]
bring mobo to local ASRock dealer, I'd bet they would flash for your free of charge.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by Ev3rM0r3 Ev3rM0r3 wrote:

I attempted to use the 5800x3d with the chance that maybe it was now required to get into bios.


Do this again after 3 steps reset. remove everything everything then reset.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Duodeno
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 7:23pm
I saw somewhere in a YouTube (of I'm right was one from asrock official) video that you can do the flash from dos.
This may solve the "i can't acces the BIOS" problem


Posted By: Duodeno
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2022 at 9:45pm
Found it:

https://youtu.be/PbyB-drELXE" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/PbyB-drELXE

Here they explain many way for update the BIOS, one is via DOS, so maybe you can skip BIOS main page totally.


Posted By: Ev3rM0r3
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2022 at 7:20am
I lived in North Dakota, there is not ASROCK dealer.


Posted By: Ev3rM0r3
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2022 at 7:22am
Originally posted by Duodeno Duodeno wrote:

I saw somewhere in a YouTube (of I'm right was one from asrock official) video that you can do the flash from dos.
This may solve the "i can't acces the BIOS" problem


You can't anymore. Not after 2.0. There is not .exe DOS flashable files anymore.


Posted By: Ev3rM0r3
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2022 at 7:26am
Originally posted by Duodeno Duodeno wrote:

Found it:

https://youtu.be/PbyB-drELXE" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/PbyB-drELXE

Here they explain many way for update the BIOS, one is via DOS, so maybe you can skip BIOS main page totally.


This method was no longer available after 2.0. And once to 5.6 you could not longer flash back before that. The files now are no longer .exe dos files or windows files.


Posted By: Ev3rM0r3
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2022 at 7:40am
Originally posted by cx5 cx5 wrote:

opppssss @Ev3rM0r3 sorry to hear....

If I were in your situation now, I would try ??rd last resort?�to remove all items from mobo then press the reset buttom plus the clear cmos jumper and remove battery.i.e. remove CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, everything removed then press reset button remove battery use jumper. Then use 1800x with minium VGA, RAM, without SSD to boot into UEFI, fringers cross, good luck.

[2nd last resort]
but a bios flasher cable
example 1 = https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.6bb32e8d0FGOdM&id=571842034657&_u=jb8lko63a4a" rel="nofollow - https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.6bb32e8d0FGOdM&id=571842034657&_u=jb8lko63a4a

example 2 = https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001296112767.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001296112767.html

both links are dedicated ASRock bios flash (very convenient), not universal for other brands.

[last resort]
bring mobo to local ASRock dealer, I'd bet they would flash for your free of charge.


Bios flasher method could be cool to try, too bad It'll take over a month to get here.


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2022 at 1:58pm
Oh yes, FLASHROM is still possible, can downgrade too....

I used flashrom to crossflash into x470 bios ....... oopppssssss

https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/page-376#post-28421098" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/threads/asrock-x370-taichi-overclocking-thread.1627407/page-376#post-28421098

real step of flashrom = https://www.overclock.net/threads/agesa-fw-stack-patched-bioses-for-3rd-gen.1733304/" rel="nofollow - https://www.overclock.net/threads/agesa-fw-stack-patched-bioses-for-3rd-gen.1733304/

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: Ev3rM0r3
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2022 at 7:19am
So i used this method and instead of going back I went forward. Got to 7.10 and it works, boots up and bios work again. Tried the new cpu and it works. However A-Tuning no longer works and says it can't detect compatible hardware which means I no longer have software that controls case fans. And then I found out that 2 sticks of my ram won't run past 2133mhz.... so this is a fabulous week....

Might just use the new board and order new ram and maybe just GIVE this old board to my sister to use.


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2022 at 11:32am
Good to hear you moved forward, that was the original plan.

you can try A-Tuning from x470 as well as x570. I use A-Tuning from x570 now :) on my physical x370 crossflashed x470 4.90[beta agessa 1.2.0.7] with 3800x only.

ram speed various users mitigate via
1) boot with single stick
2) set to XMP or overclock or manual tuning or whatever you like
3) shutdown
4) boot with dual stick
and most users solve via this way, you can read other threads, many mentioned this.

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz


Posted By: cx5
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2022 at 11:37am
fancontrol freeware = https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases" rel="nofollow - https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

I used it for a while, quite good, but one fan couldn't sync, for me anyway, may be all fans sync for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDPKVKBMQU8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDPKVKBMQU8

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x370taichi@3.50gen4
AX750 Optane900P SN770
3800x PosdonZro4 BarrowPWM-17w>420x140x28
XFX SWFT319 6900XT
MSI RX560 LP to get Fluid Motion BlueskyFRC 75hz



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