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Topic: X670E Taichi crashes / reboots
Posted By: izeball
Subject: X670E Taichi crashes / reboots
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2022 at 5:53pm
I have the following configuration:

ASRock X670E Taichi Bios 1.11
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
G.Skill F5-6400J3239G16G 4x16GB
Zotac Geforce RTX 4090 OC Trinity with driver 526.47
Corsair HX1000I
Windows 10 Pro with all patches

My problems:
- crashes (mouse freeze + straight reboot) right at the Windows login or shortly after (<1 min)
- after Windows Hibernate start, Windows crashes 100% of the time in 1 min
- 30 seconds until Asrock logo

I did:
- deactivate PCI Re-Bar
- run RAM with 4800 (=no XMP)
- disable c-states
- setup fans to run even in idle mode
- with Bios 1.09 it was so bad, that I had to remove everything on my board except 1 ram to be able to flashback to 1.11

Do you know when there will be a Bios version, to run the configuration stable?



Replies:
Posted By: apatch
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 12:54am
There is some new beta bios for your MB but I guess it will not solve this problem - 1.11.AS01 [Beta].

I've got X670E Pro RS with 4 sticks of F5-6000J3238F16GX2-TZ5NR and gave up on them, it useless to set up with @4800 with some high cycles just to have it stable, with half a price of it I will test tomorrow 2 sticks of KF548C38BBK2-64 with probably same or better stable settings.

5 years ago got the same problem with x399 and 4 sticks of G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 CL14-14-14 XMP2 DIMMs, took some months or years to resolve, will not waste my time again on it now.

Good luck

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ASRock X399 Taichi/X670E Pro RS
AMD Threadripper 1920X/Ryzen 7 7700X
64GB:2xF5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5S/KF548C38BBK2-64
Samsung 960EVO,970Pro/980Pro
MSI GeForce GTX 1050/Asus GeForce RTX 3080TUF
W10P/W11P


Posted By: mejohnc
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 11:50am
I am running into the same issue. I had a feeling the motherboard was to blame when it would freeze in the bios?this is an absolutely awful bug. I have a 4090 founders, 7950X, and 2 sticks of 16GB 6000Mhz G.Skill with AMD xpo. Updated to 1.09 and it was flawless for a week, then hell started. Guess I?m glad I still have my old system to use but what a shame. I?ve gone through multiple drive installs, cpu swaps, etc. I don?t really feel like just putting the Taichi on my shelf and waiting for a working bios but too late to return it! Thanks a lot asrock!


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 3:49pm
Early adoption pains

I would open a ticket with ASRock Tech Support:
https://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp" rel="nofollow - https://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp

ASRock are usually great with helping early adopters resolve issues. Bare in mind
there are teething problems with every new platform, most come from the vendor
not the manufacturer. AM4 was riddled with issues for well over a year before
AMD got their AGESA properly sorted and even then, some continued to have issues
all the way up to the 3000 series. Every ticket submitted to ASRock (or any manufacturer)
with different configurations will help them iron out bugs and find fixes/workarounds.

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Posted By: Akriant
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 11:22pm
Same issue here. Crashes to black screen in less than a minute in Windows. Usually on cold boot. After restart or two it then works and can pass Prime95, OCCT etc.
Tried looser timing - no dice. Tried Windows 11 reset to factory - no dice.

System specs:

Windows 11 Pro
AMD Ryzen 7950x
Asorck x670e Taichi
MSI 4090 Suprim X
EVGA 1600W T2
G.Skill Trident Z5 32gb (2x16) Model F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N


Posted By: Teamroc5
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 9:18am
im having the same issue as well.. crashing almost everytime i play a game or even without playing a game... its insane!! I only play Fortnite and sometimes COD.. it wont even play DX12 or DX11 on fortnite without crashing... I can only play Preformance Mode which is kinda sh*tty... i had to turn off all overclocking from ryzen master adn keep my ram at stock for it to even run a game.. and when i put my frames uncapped it will play for maybe 4 minutes and crash.. i know im not over heating or anything because i checked and checked my cooler.. which is a 360mm artic freeze AIO.. the good one lol Getting frustrated with this all.. about to switch to intel 13900k which i dont want to cause i love AMD and have been rocking them for a while... But when i cant even game on it when it cost a small fortune.. it should play games atleast

Windows 11
AMD Ryzen 9 7950x
Asrock X670E Taichi
Aorus RTX 3090 Extreme
Gskill Trident DDR5 2x16 6000

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Tha Roc


Posted By: mejohnc
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 10:14am
AS02 beta doesn?t help at all. Crashes before I can even login, crashes in the bios, yes the update successfully installed. Get this supposedly premium product in shape, please. I?m not interested in testing a new bios every week if you can?t fix the issue.


Posted By: ASRock_TSD
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 12:10pm
Dear All,
Thank you for the posting.

For this case, could you please try below suggestions to verify the system?
1. Clear CMOS by pressing the CLR CMOS button after removing the 24 pin ATX power cable.
2. Keep BIOS setting default and only install CPU, PSU, Cooler, RAM, GPU, System disk to test.
3. Remove the GPU and output the graphics by iGPU to test.
4. Reinstall a clean OS to verify.
5. Please go to BIOS\Advance\AMD CBS\CPU Common Options to set [Global C-state
Control] to [Disable] to try.

If the issue persist, could you please help to check if the system shows any error code or it just shutdown automatically?

Thank you,

Bets wihshes,
ASRock TSD


Posted By: jmpatchin80
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2022 at 9:04pm
I have tried all of this. System only crashes when the computer is cold from sitting off for a few hours. It boots into windows and runs for up to five minutes then the screen goes black and the computer restarts. After restart everything runs fine and I can do multiple tests with no errors. It only does it after the system is physically cold. I did discover that this does not happen on the BIOS version 1.07. All bios after this one are effected. I also notice that the bus reads 100mhz before it crashes then after reboot it reads 99mhz. The windows logs report a tdr failure from driver nvlddmkm.sys. It happens on my 3070ti, 2080 and on amd IGPU. It definitely is something wrong in the bios. Maybe investigate what is different about bios 1.07 that does not cause this issue to happen. I have tried all the bios up to the recent beta from 11/4. It seems whatever was changed to support the 4000 series broke something with the graphics in general.


Posted By: mejohnc
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 12:41am
I was half tempted to downgrade to 1.07 but instead took the X670E Taichi out of my system. It?s now sitting on a shelf. I tried igpu, 6600XT, and 4090. Love this $500 brick on my shelf. Love it!!


Posted By: izeball
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 3:25am
For me the 1.11 AS3 beta bios is a little bit better. After hibernate it only crashes sometime. Still hope another update will fix it for good.


Posted By: Akriant
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 4:07am
Originally posted by ASRock_TSD ASRock_TSD wrote:

Dear All,
Thank you for the posting.

For this case, could you please try below suggestions to verify the system?
1. Clear CMOS by pressing the CLR CMOS button after removing the 24 pin ATX power cable.
2. Keep BIOS setting default and only install CPU, PSU, Cooler, RAM, GPU, System disk to test.
3. Remove the GPU and output the graphics by iGPU to test.
4. Reinstall a clean OS to verify.
5. Please go to BIOS\Advance\AMD CBS\CPU Common Options to set [Global C-state
Control] to [Disable] to try.

If the issue persist, could you please help to check if the system shows any error code or it just shutdown automatically?

Thank you,

Bets wihshes,
ASRock TSD


1. Tried it 3 times. Didn't help.
2. Tried it multiple times. Didn't help
3. System works with iGPU when no video card is plugged in. No black screens.
4. Tried it twice. Didn't help
5. Tried it. Didn't help.

Tried multiple video cards - the moment card goes into the system - boom, black screens on cold boot here I come. Something is definitely wrong with the bios settings in the mobo. Video card works fine in my other rig.




Posted By: Akriant
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 4:08am
Originally posted by jmpatchin80 jmpatchin80 wrote:

I have tried all of this. System only crashes when the computer is cold from sitting off for a few hours. It boots into windows and runs for up to five minutes then the screen goes black and the computer restarts. After restart everything runs fine and I can do multiple tests with no errors. It only does it after the system is physically cold. I did discover that this does not happen on the BIOS version 1.07. All bios after this one are effected. I also notice that the bus reads 100mhz before it crashes then after reboot it reads 99mhz. The windows logs report a tdr failure from driver nvlddmkm.sys. It happens on my 3070ti, 2080 and on amd IGPU. It definitely is something wrong in the bios. Maybe investigate what is different about bios 1.07 that does not cause this issue to happen. I have tried all the bios up to the recent beta from 11/4. It seems whatever was changed to support the 4000 series broke something with the graphics in general.


Pretty much this.


Posted By: Akriant
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2022 at 5:05am
Tried 1.11.AS03[Beta]. Got the same "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly." on cold boot. Looked at Post Codes - they are random, as usual.

Rolled back to 1.07. It doesn't let me boot into bios with my 4090 (this is not an issue with 1.09 and so on) but since I installed Nvidia drivers once Windows loads drivers kick in and image appears, so I can navigate in-windows with 1.07 no problem. We'll see if the cold boot issue persists. Will update in the next 24h.


Posted By: Akriant
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2022 at 4:27am
1.07 bios use update:

1. Crashes - gone. No longer black screens on cold boot. Solid as a rock.
2.ASROCK logo doesn't appear at all, it's no signal on the monitor till Windows 11 loads. But, if I mash "delete" button from the start then I can get into bios/

Conclusion: Whatever Asrock's software engineers did to improve compatibility with RX 4090 cards also created this mess.

Please fix the bios.

Thanks,

Akriant.


Posted By: ASRock_TSD
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2022 at 12:16pm
Dear All,
Thank you for the reply.

We modified a BIOS 1.11.AS05 which enhance the system stability for you, please test it.

BIOS: 1.11.AS05: https://download.asrock.com/TSD/Desktop/BIOS/X670ETC1.11.AS05.ROM.zip" rel="nofollow - https://download.asrock.com/TSD/Desktop/BIOS/X670ETC1.11.AS05.ROM.zip

If the issue persist, please help to check which code is showed on the debug led when the system crashed.

Thank you,

Best wishes,
ASRock TSD


Posted By: Akriant
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2022 at 1:10pm
Originally posted by ASRock_TSD ASRock_TSD wrote:

Dear All,
Thank you for the reply.

We modified a BIOS 1.11.AS05 which enhance the system stability for you, please test it.

BIOS: 1.11.AS05: https://download.asrock.com/TSD/Desktop/BIOS/X670ETC1.11.AS05.ROM.zip" rel="nofollow - https://download.asrock.com/TSD/Desktop/BIOS/X670ETC1.11.AS05.ROM.zip

If the issue persist, please help to check which code is showed on the debug led when the system crashed.

Thank you,

Best wishes,
ASRock TSD


Will give it a spin.

For the record - not a single crash since reverting back to 1.07.

Hopefully this one will do the trick and we'll have best of both worlds.

Will update once I get a few cold boots in.


Posted By: jmpatchin80
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2022 at 6:32am
I downloaded 1.11.AS05 and flashed it this morning before work. I then shut off my computer and let it sit for almost 8 hours to make sure it was sitting long enough to crash on first boot. I booted up my PC when I got home and it has not crashed. Everything works as expected. It looks like you guys nailed the issue with whatever was modified in the supplied bios. I will continue to monitor it but I can all ready tell this helped fix the crashing issues I was having. Thanks for the quick attention and have a great day!


Posted By: Akriant
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 3:05am
1.1.AS05 fixed the issue. Thanks!


Posted By: izeball
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2022 at 6:54pm
For me the 1.11 AS05 also fixed the problems with the start after hibernating the Windows 10 system. So far it came up after several hibernates.
I won't install AS06 and wait for the next non-beta release.
Thank you!


Posted By: Solidblock22
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2022 at 2:06pm
I'm also having the same problem. 7950x and 3090 ti 4800mhz corsair dominater ram. It happens mostly on a cold boot. It would just freeze and restarts. I did all kinds of research before landing here. Seems we all are having the same problem.


Posted By: Akriant
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2022 at 2:32pm
Have you tried 1.11 AS05 bios?



Posted By: Solidblock22
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2022 at 3:24pm
No is it working ?


Posted By: Dieter_Wilke
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2022 at 4:11pm
The current version is 1.11.AS06 Beta. My board works stable since 1.11.AS05 Beta.


Posted By: mejohnc
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2022 at 3:09am
AS05, AS06, and 1.07 are all still equally problematic with my X670E Taichi, 64GB 6000Mhz GSkill, Founders 4090 and 7950X. However, a 7700X works with no issues on AS05. Do I need to RMA my 7950X or is this related to the bios/4090? It will not load the bios half the time and will crash in the bios. Will not even load windows 90% of the time. None of these issues pop up with 7700X. If no one else has run into that exact issue with 7950X I?m going to have to assume the cpu is the issue.


Posted By: Solidblock22
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2022 at 3:51am
I just installed the new Aso6 bios guess we will see if it'd stable.


Posted By: Solidblock22
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2022 at 6:33am
its still restarting with the Aso6 bios update. not sure what is wrong there are others with the exact same issue. its coming down to either the motherboard bios or the cpu itself. might need to give it some time for things to smooth out. I always had a problem with AMD tho my last AMD set up was the FX 8350 and i remember getting tons of freezes. I switch back to AMD because people say it got alot better but it was a mistake. I cant remember the last time i had a hiccup with intel. This will be my last AMD set up.


Posted By: modru2004
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2022 at 11:23pm
The x670e Steel Legend board has the same problem. Can you please make updated bios for it as well?


That being said nvidia has release a firmware update for the 4090 that fixed the issue you were attempting to fix. I think your best bet would to revert the change you made for 4090's in all future bios updates and recommend users use the official nvidia fix to prevent future issues.


Posted By: Dieter_Wilke
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2022 at 4:08pm
New AMD-Chipsetdrivers:
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-ryzen-chipset-4-11-15-342" rel="nofollow - https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-ryzen-chipset-4-11-15-342


Posted By: Used2Kill
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2022 at 6:33pm
X670E TaiChi
Ryzen 5 7600X
GSkill 5600 32GB
RX 6800
Windows 11

Every second day 1 crash while playing. Temps are okay.
It doesnt matter if im playing Ark survival evolved, League of Legends or Cosmoteer.

My girlfriend got exactly the same konfiguration and got the same problems.





Posted By: Used2Kill
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2022 at 6:28pm
Yesterday, it crashed again while watching a stream. Latest Bios driver and new AMD chiplet + graphic driver. So unstable...


Posted By: Solidblock22
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2022 at 11:07pm
I don't know what's up but my system has been stable since the latest beta update.


Posted By: hdtv00
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 1:45pm
All mine does is crash , first 4 days to a week perfectly fine. Installed motherboard drivers and it non stop crashes for no reason all the time since.

Taichi
7950x
32 gig 6000 ram


Posted By: Solidblock22
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2022 at 1:58pm
Stick to intel next time that's what im gonna do


Posted By: hdtv00
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2022 at 6:36am
Yea not happy...not what I expect from a $500 motherboard....still crashing...away..DRIVER POWER STATE FAILURE over and over and over again.


Posted By: hdtv00
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2022 at 9:43am
Supports help...buy new ddr 5 ram and clean install of windows 11....

This IS a new install of windows 11 on a brand new drive AND the ram is on your sites approved list for this board it's the whole reason I bought THIS ram...


Posted By: Octavean
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2022 at 3:23pm
Basically the same issue here with a somewhat different configuration:

AMD RyZen 9 7950X
ASRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi
G.Skill 32GB (2x 16GB) kit F5-6000J3238F16GX2-FX5
Samsung 1TB NVMe
CoolerMaster Master Liquid 240mm AIO
650W PSU
Windows 11 Pro

Tried onboard video, GTX 970, GTX 1060, GTX 760, RTX 3050. Tried swapping RAM sticks and running with only one DIMM. Tried swapping SSDs. Reinstalled Windows. The shipping BIOS version was v1.30 of which I eventually updated to v1.11 AS03 Beta. The latest BIOS helped a little but didn?t fix the problem. I was about to try changing the PSU but it didn?t make sense because after a crash the system is mostly stable. Stress testing the CPU and testing the RAM yield no noteworthy issues. Temps are as expected with the 7950X.

The system is stable in BIOS which is good. The installation of Windows was uneventful as well. The setup of Windows 11 after install is when things went sideways and was very difficult to complete the configuration. Cold boot into windows will likely either reboot spontaneously, blue screen or freeze. After that the system is typically stable. It can go into and out of suspend mode without issue.

The GTX 970 worked initially but after the initial BIOS configuration it wouldn?t display anything after that. The card is fully functional and working in another system so the problem is clearly with the ASRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi motherboard or BIOS.

It would be great if ASRock could fix this stability issue with all their boards because it looks like a lot of them have it.


Posted By: apatch
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2022 at 6:50pm
I will try to make it short:

1. There should be common thread for all X670E or even B650E mainboards, because problems are also common.

2. What I read there is new AMD AGESA ComboPI 1.0.0.4 update, which probably will not solve the most of this problems, just check https://www.station-drivers.com/index.php/en-us/" rel="nofollow - https://www.station-drivers.com/index.php/en-us/ MSI is first implementing it so the rest will follow.

3. I got ASRock X670E Pro RS, where using even or higher ram clocks than 4800 Mhz generates standby/sleep problems.

4. Forget about using 4 ram sticks it's masochism, higher clock and CLS = higher chance it will not work, even if it boots with with chosen XMP/EXPO profile it could be not stable in some operations like waking from sleep mode. Got to sell my 4 sticks of F5-6000J3238F16GX2-TZ5NR and replace it with 2 sticks of KF548C38BBK2-64.

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ASRock X399 Taichi/X670E Pro RS
AMD Threadripper 1920X/Ryzen 7 7700X
64GB:2xF5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5S/KF548C38BBK2-64
Samsung 960EVO,970Pro/980Pro
MSI GeForce GTX 1050/Asus GeForce RTX 3080TUF
W10P/W11P


Posted By: modru2004
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2022 at 3:17am
it could be a defective cpu. some of these weird issues are caused by the cpu.

i replaced my cpu and its running 100% stable and fine now.

my defective cpu would run rock solid when it decided to work. when it was working it benched fine and ran games with no crashes. it also worked flawlessly with igpu. had all sorts of issues with pcie lanes and weird board issues.

system freezing or resetting when gpu drivers initialized.

it was 100% fixed by replacing that cpu.


Posted By: Octavean
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2022 at 4:13am
For the record, the G.Skill 32GB (2x 16GB) DDR5 6000 kit F5-6000J3238F16GX2-FX5 is running at default settings (4800). I tried EXPO but that seemed even less stable.

I also forgot to mention that I tried an Asus ThunderboltEX3 card but when the problem became apparent it was prudent to remove all add-in cards and troubleshoot.

I was considering giving Linux a go (probably Ubuntu), Windows Server 2022 or possibly Proxmox but Windows 11 Pro seemed the easiest way to go.

Like I said before, a BIOS upgrade seemed to improve the stability somewhat so at this point I?m fairly sure it?s either the motherboard or the motherboard?s BIOS. I don?t suspect the RyZen 7950X CPU as being the problem (although it?s hard to say for sure what is) and I would be more inclined to try a new (none-ASRock) motherboard rather then a new CPU.

My ASRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi board shipped with BIOS version 1.30 and I upgraded to he highest none-beta BIOS which was 1.11 initially. I never tried 1.02, 1.09 or 1.11 AS01 Beta and am currently on 1.11 AS03 Beta. I?m hoping ASRock releases a new BIOS addressing these stability issues soon.

My CPU and motherboard were a package deal with the RAM being free. It?s way beyond the return option stage. I went with ASRock because I was so pleased with my ASRock X570 Taichi. I really want to give them a chance to fix this.


Posted By: hdtv00
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2022 at 5:14am
Ok something I noticed is when I ran cpu z it would often hang on hard drive scan at 65%...It said hmm DRIVER POWER STATE FAILURE which could be number of things but ok why was cpu z crashing in that instant every time...So I said ok let's change the power state of the hard drives, they were set to sleep or go idle. So I changed every drive to never sleep.

My system now hasn't crashed once in 20 hrs straight, by far longest it's went since I installed the motherboard driver set from asrock. Again this never happened a single time when I had pc for the week , it only started after I installed asrock board bundle of drivers.


Posted By: Octavean
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2022 at 7:18am
Originally posted by hdtv00 hdtv00 wrote:

So I said ok let's change the power state of the hard drives, they were set to sleep or go idle. So I changed every drive to never sleep.

My system now hasn't crashed once in 20 hrs straight, by far longest it's went since I installed the motherboard driver set from asrock. Again this never happened a single time when I had pc for the week , it only started after I installed asrock board bundle of drivers.


Setting drives to never sleep? Worth a shot IMO. I?ll try it.

BTW, I?ve tried a couple of memory tests but the one failed. That would be the built in Windows Memory Diagnostic tool (Windows 10 / Windows 11). To use the tool hit Windows Key+R then type ?mdsched.exe??   Different tools, different results I guess but given that Windows itself is unstable I question the validity of the Microsoft tool somewhat.

Anyway, on my system the Windows Memory Diagnostic tool seems to never quite start. I?d hesitate to say it freezes or locks up because I can get out of the tool gracefully. I?d be curious to know how others fair with said tool.



Posted By: hdtv00
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2022 at 8:25am
Yep , it still hasn't reset it's been 24 hrs now without doing it. For the first time since I updated the motherboard drivers. It was resetting 6 times a day at least before I changed that one setting. And frankly that's all I did.



Posted By: Octavean
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2022 at 11:50am
Well again I?m willing to try it.

The thing is, my motherboard instability issues basically started after Windows 11 Pro was installed (each time) starting during the configuration stage. Windows gives you a couple of options to click on and within the first three options it would reset and ask the same questions again. Then It would eventually either reboot spontaneously, freeze or blue screen (not sure of the specific error but I can check).

In either case, this instability started before explicitly installing motherboard drivers from ASRock or AMD chipset drivers. The instability persists after said driver install but again was definitely there before too.

It can?t hurt to try it though.



Posted By: hdtv00
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2022 at 12:30pm
Yea that's where the rub in DRIVER POWER STATE FAILURE because it can be any of several different issues. Is that the blue screen error you get?

Your issue for sure sounds like it's something else. Maybe even hardware related being it happens so early my first thought is bad ram. Is there a windows 11 safe mode you can go into see if it crashes still.


Posted By: Equalizer
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2022 at 6:38pm
Originally posted by hdtv00 hdtv00 wrote:

Yep , it still hasn't reset it's been 24 hrs now without doing it. For the first time since I updated the motherboard drivers. It was resetting 6 times a day at least before I changed that one setting. And frankly that's all I did.



Very interesting because I'm getting the same issue, my hard drive drops out(reconnects once in awhile and my nextcloud sync crashes sometimes which results in the Driver Power State Failure Blue Screen. Definitely something asrock needs to look into, I'll try setting drive to never sleep. Do you apply the same settings for ssds/nvmes? Seems like it's hard drives only, could be wrong. Random reboots seem to be solved on AS06 bios, the driver power state is my biggest issue atm.


Posted By: Octavean
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2022 at 12:48am
Originally posted by hdtv00 hdtv00 wrote:

Yea that's where the rub in DRIVER POWER STATE FAILURE because it can be any of several different issues. Is that the blue screen error you get?



I?ll have to see if I can reproduce the blue screen which shouldn?t be difficult since it?s typical first boot behavior.   Unfortunately I didn?t take note of the specific error regardless of how numerous it?s is.

BTW, I did come across this:

Quote
If you view the crash dump file from this BSOD, which you can do by installing and launching BlueScreenView, it will often identify a file by name as part of the crash data. By searching on the name, you can often associate it with some specific device inside (or, as is most typical for this error) plugged into your PC.


https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/fix-driver-power-state-failure-error" rel="nofollow - https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/fix-driver-power-state-failure-error

I?m not big on using utilities like that but if there isn?t a built in option then it or something like it might be the way to go.



Posted By: hdtv00
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2022 at 5:16am
There is a built in version of sorts you can usually get an idea , it's called Event Viewer I believe.

Yea that article is prob dead on what was causing my issue at least. Cause as soon I suspected drives sleeping ,which I wanted off anyway hate plex taking 30 seconds to start playing from sleep drives, and after turning off it still hasn't crashed in two days I'm golden it seems.

I did have 6 sata and 2 usb drives connected too. As well as one m.2


Posted By: Octavean
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2022 at 7:23am
Event Viewer, aye, I?ve used it before. I?ll give it a right proper go when I have the chance.

My system isnt currently connected up to a monitor, keyboard and mouse because I dont really have a specific place for it yet. So it?s a bit of a drag to pull it out and setup even when I have the time for it.

Food for thought and I?ve got a lot to look into now.

One question though, are you leaving your system on 24 / 7,????? The reason I ask is because once the initial crash gets out of the way, I suspect that my system might firm up its stability. So for me just leaving it on might not be the best of tests.


Posted By: topdog360
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2022 at 8:25am
I built my new setup last weekend with the following specs:
670E Taichi MB
7950x
64GB GSkill Flare X5
Zotac RTX 4090
1.11AS06 BETA BIOS

Had nothing but problems out of the gate.
- crashing during windows install
- different bluescreen errors every time
- Finally managed to get Windows installed then issues started again while updating
- BIOS is at least always stable while inside
Things I tried:
- removed all drives except primary M2
- removed 2 sticks of RAM
- no EXPO on RAM

I was finally able to get Windows running and it appeared stable. I reinstalled the other RAM sticks and was able to perform various benchmarks, and even played Portal RTX for an 1.5 hours with no issue. Then crash. Windows restarts and doing nothing would random crash, different error every time.

I have been monitoring this thread and noticed the comment from Asrock regarding disabling C-State in the BIOS. I figured Id give it a shot. PC has been running rock stable now for 7 hours no BSOD of any kind. Im 100% convinced this is AGESA/BIOS related at this point.


Posted By: Dieter_Wilke
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2022 at 10:49pm
New BIOS:
X670ETC1.14.AS06


Posted By: tiltskillet
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2022 at 2:32am
Hey Guys if anyone is experiencing crashes a little bit after a reboot with this board after login or during periods of idling I may have found a fix for you. I was crashing once a day during but only during light use(never while gaming) and every 3-4 hours while idling.
Control Panel -> Power options -> Choose the power plan/s you currently use or want to use and go to advanced power settings.
Under Processor Power Management, Minimum Processor State is automatically set to 0% for all plans, you want to change that value.
I started at 25% 1 day and have reduced it to 10% the next 2 days, no crash yet for 3 days and I left the pc on in awake mode 18+ hours one day.
So it could be that these AM5 cards are falling asleep while the computer is not in sleep mode, though I'm not educated enough as to how that happens and why that would cause a restart.


Posted By: Equalizer
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2022 at 6:49am
Turned off sleep for HDDs seemed to have fixed the Driver Power State errors for me so far. System seems stable, will run like this for a few days then update to the new bios and test again. There are definitely some sleep issues with the bioses through.

Specs:
7950X
x670e Taichi
64GB (32 x 2) Gskill 6000Mhz CL30 XMP(No Expo)
1600w EVGA T2
All ssds/nvmes except 1 8tb barracuda.


Posted By: nigiro
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 3:11am
I really want to cry dudes. I tried all the things you said in the 6 pages of this forum. Nothing works.

I tried :
Clear cmos
NO XMP
NO OC
all slepping mode off
CPU Minimum performance to 20%

And at any moment i have black screen with 46 on the motherboard.
That very very bad news.

And the supplier refuse to give me refund.. What can i do plz ?


Posted By: topdog360
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 3:51am
Did you try disabling C-states in the bios? That fixed all the issues I was having, system is stable as a rock.


Posted By: nigiro
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 5:12am
where is it ? i dont find it


Posted By: nigiro
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 5:13am
is it PSS Support ?


Posted By: nigiro
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 10:12pm
I disabled PSS support and start my pc this morning. I don't touch it during 3 hours. No black screen ! I was so happy !.

I played one hour to wow and at 59 min playing... Black screen again. Impossible to boot. Always black screen with 46 on Dr debug..


I just want to cry.. nothing work for me


Posted By: lexussmix
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2022 at 12:26am
I have been having the exact same problem for the longest time.
Changed my PSU, GPU, SSDs and RAM..the problem persists.
I created support ticket but no response yet.
1.After the pc has been off overnight i turn it on
2. i log into windows
3. within 5 minutes the screen goes black...reboots (takes a while)
4. after i log in second time pc works great( gaming,benchmarks,media)
I tried different bios versions but problem persists.
reistalled clean windows..problem still persits

i ran memtest,furmark, disk check...no issues

it always happens with the freeze and reboot..

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MM


Posted By: mejohnc
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2022 at 1:56am
Hi all, it?s been a fun couple months since the launch of Zen 4?I just want to say I think my issues with the freeze+crash came down to a bad 7950X. 7700X works just fine and AMD has accepted my RMA and is now sending me a 7950X replacement. Once I get that, install, and test with latest driver, I will report back.


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2022 at 3:44am
Thanks for posting back mejohnc. Good luck with the replacement.

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Posted By: mejohnc
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2022 at 8:40am
Just updated to the latest bios 1.14.AS06 [Beta], verified it booted fine with 7700X, then replaced 7700X with a new 7950X from AMD RMA. Booted it, and it booted to lock screen successfully. Rebooted and upped the 4x16Gb to 6000mt/s and so far it has been stable. Last time it would crash all over the place, bios, lock screen, and 2 seconds after logging in no matter the ram config. Smooth and fast so far. Still took 2m+ to initialize the ram so that clearly han'ts been fixed, but swapping the speeds is a lot faster now.


Posted By: mejohnc
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2022 at 8:42am
credit to AMD RMA btw, I dropped my lemon off on the 21st and got a replacement back to me on the 27th. They got me a new CPU in under a week during Christmas! Very nice. They send it back via FedEx Express. The only critique I have is one that has been brought up for years: AMD RMA does not provide you the return tracking, so you have no idea when it's going to show up at your house. Not good.


Posted By: Katana1074
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2022 at 4:52pm
Just to let people know Amd motherboards do not support standard power management of drives (DIPM) I used to have issues with my X670 Taichi, I've found that you need to change AHCI Link Power Management to HIPM...

See here:

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/72971-add-ahci-link-power-management-power-options-windows.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/72971-add-ahci-link-power-management-power-options-windows.html

Regards


Posted By: Landon
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2023 at 8:08pm
Using X670ETC1.14.AS06 still get freezing after a cold boot on the windows loading screen. Everything works fine after that, until the pc is off for another 6 hours.

Rinse repeat

AMD AM5 Ryzen 9 7950X 16 Core 4.5GHz CPU No Cooler 100-100000514WOF          
Corsair iCUE H150i Elite CAPELLIX RGB Liquid CPU Cooler CW-9060048-WW          
Asrock AM5 E-ATX X670E Taichi DDR5 Motherboard          
32GB DDR5 (2x16GB) G.Skill Kit F5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5 Flare X5 6000Mhz RAM Kit for AMD          
1TB Crucial P5 Plus M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD CT1000P5PSSD8          
GALAX RTX4090 24GB SG OC PCIe Graphics Card RTX4090-SG-1-CLICK-OC-24G          
* Add a Monitor from this List          
120mm Corsair ML120 PRO RED PWM Magnetic Levitation Case Fan CO-9050042-WW          
Corsair E-ATX iCUE 5000X RGB TG BLACK Case CC-9011212-WW          
1300 Watt Cooler Master V Platinum Modular Power Supply MPZ-D001-AFBAPV-AU


Posted By: mejohnc
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2023 at 12:15am
I am seeing the same thing with 14.AS06 beta. Don't know if my devices are wigging out but it looks like that release is no longer available at the moment.

RAM set at 6000mhz, the device resets overnight and RAM speed resets to 3600mhz
RAM set at 4800mhz, no restart yet.
RAM set at 3600mhz. still restarted overnight twice.

Seems like bios isn't even properly saving/applying the setting. I think it is generally about 6hrs after I stop using it. Sleep is disabled and I just turn the displays off at night. I really hope there is a new release soon...


Posted By: Katana1074
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2023 at 6:18am
bios 1.14AS06 is working fine for me and its still there for download...


https://download.asrock.com/BIOS/AM5/X670E%20Taichi" rel="nofollow - https://download.asrock.com/BIOS/AM5/X670E%20Taichi (1.14.AS06)ROM.zip


Posted By: toX
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2023 at 6:39am
Hey all, glad I came across this topic as I'm struggling with these problems on my X670E board for weeks now and its driving me crazy.

I haven't been able to get it stable unfortunately, with neither BIOS version.

My specs:

AsRock X670E Taichi Carrara
AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5-6000 CL36
AMD Radeon RX 6900XT

I've been experiencing the exact same coldstart issue on BIOS version 1.11, where the PC would simply restart within 5 minutes after starting the PC when it's been off for hours; no bluescreen or anything, just a random freeze/restart. This would not happen when the PC is started while being warm.
Other than that, the system was stable.

After reading that the issue got resolved for some people by upgrading to newer BIOS versions, I got my hopes up and did the same, upgrading to the 1.14 AS06 beta bios.
This unfortunately made the system even less stable. On that version, I started getting bluescreens multiple times a day. Weirdly, apps started randomly crashing and Chrome tabs would also stop working randomly when browsing websites.
Downgraded to 1.11 AS06 this morning, hoping to find the perfect middle ground. However, bluescreens got even worse. System was extremely unstable.

So I ended up reverting back to 1.11. The system now seems to be stable again for the day, but I'm pretty sure this will reintroduce the coldstart issues again..

One thing thats especially bad in my case, is that whenever a freeze or bluescreen happens, my PC then refuses to boot into windows for a good 15-20 minutes as it just results in a black screen after the AsRock logo. I then have to shut off the PC and start again, repeating this process probably like 10+ times until I finally get a working boot into Windows. This is extremely tedious.

So far, this has been an extremely disappointing experience and I hope AsRock can work out the stability issues.

I came across an interesting post on another forum where someone said, they are able to prevent the coldstart freeze/restart issue by running Cinebench right after booting into windows to make the CPU work hard for a couple minutes. Apparently he hasn't had any coldstart issues since doing that. I will try doing that for the next few days going forward and see if that works for me.


Posted By: toX
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2023 at 6:44am
Also, one very weird thing that happend to me twice since owning the mainboard for two months now, is that the entire rear IO (all USB slots aswell as Ethernet) crashed and suddenly stopped working. Both times I had to restart the PC to get it working again. Extremely strange but apparently very rare issue.

Also, one thing I noticed about 1.14 AS06 when I still had it before reverting back, is that the EXPO setting didnt work with that BIOS version.
Choosing the EXPO setting didnt change the clocks, timings or voltages at all. It has no function.
On the 1.11 versions the EXPO setting works just fine.


Posted By: EEPS
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2023 at 12:57am
I have similar issues, similar config: 7950x, x670e taichi with 64GB (4x16GB) ram. Same instability, crashes etc. The only way I have gotten it stable is by disabling all C-state related settings in the bios. There are a few places you need to disable it, in ACIP config, and in CPU config. Once I do this, I am fine and can run EXPO at 6000 speed. I am on 1.14 AS06 bios. Even with this relatively "stable" config, I still see weird issues when messing with settings in ryzen master, like in can get out of "sync" where the bios says expo is enabled, but ryzen master does not... Or ryzen master refuses to start. Anyway, after clearing settings and only making changes in ryzen master and C-states disabled, I can finally get it seemingly rock steady, even with PBO all core offset (-11) and expo profile.


Posted By: toX
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2023 at 7:07pm
For anyone thats on 1.14 AS06:

https://wccftech.com/msi-asrock-roll-back-amd-agesa-1-0-0-4-bios-firmware-as-it-disables-cores-on-ryzen-cpus/amp/" rel="nofollow - https://wccftech.com/msi-asrock-roll-back-amd-agesa-1-0-0-4-bios-firmware-as-it-disables-cores-on-ryzen-cpus/amp/

Some of your cores might be disabled. Thats why it was removed from the website.


Posted By: tim73
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2023 at 7:53pm
7700x seems to be working (Task Manager) OK with this BIOS. Tried with Userbenchmark, no problems with CPU performance.


Posted By: sunl1te
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2023 at 9:41pm
For those setups which has all 4 RAM slots populated, I would recommend install only 2 sticks and check if it is stable. Because having 4 sticks of RAM installed have higher (extremely higher) requirement on the RAM timing match. The only reliable way that make 4 sticks RAM running smooth is to buy the 4 stick package, never expect that 2 sets of 2 sticks package can run without issue, and reduce the clock speed or lower the timing setting or increase the voltage doesn't help here.

Regarding "auto reboot without blue screen", this is indeed a blue screen error, check your windows "advanced system setting" ( press Win+Pause ), open "Startup and Recovery" setting page, uncheck "Automatically restart", so you can see the error code when BSOD happens again.

In order to test the RAM stability, it's better to use memtest86+, test it for full one pass is enough, but if any error are detected it's RAM compatibility/timing issue(this doesn't necessarily means the RAM module has faulty bits but just the timing compatibility caused the instability). You can either remove one stick and re-test, or have the memory module RMA.
But remember: if you are using 4 sticks of memory, always buy the 4 stick package.

And also note the official supported memory speed:

2x1R DDR5-5200
2x2R DDR5-5200
4x1R DDR5-3600
4x2R DDR5-3600

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-7950x" rel="nofollow - https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-7950x


I have seen so many cases that the blue screen, so called auto reboot ( this is actually a blue screen ), application BSOD are 90% related to the RAM.

Hope this can help some people.


Posted By: zoneslash
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2023 at 11:10pm
Originally posted by sunl1te sunl1te wrote:

For those setups which has all 4 RAM slots populated, I would recommend install only 2 sticks and check if it is stable. Because having 4 sticks of RAM installed have higher (extremely higher) requirement on the RAM timing match. The only reliable way that make 4 sticks RAM running smooth is to buy the 4 stick package, never expect that 2 sets of 2 sticks package can run without issue, and reduce the clock speed or lower the timing setting or increase the voltage doesn't help here.

Regarding "auto reboot without blue screen", this is indeed a blue screen error, check your windows "advanced system setting" ( press Win+Pause ), open "Startup and Recovery" setting page, uncheck "Automatically restart", so you can see the error code when BSOD happens again.

In order to test the RAM stability, it's better to use memtest86+, test it for full one pass is enough, but if any error are detected it's RAM compatibility/timing issue(this doesn't necessarily means the RAM module has faulty bits but just the timing compatibility caused the instability). You can either remove one stick and re-test, or have the memory module RMA.
But remember: if you are using 4 sticks of memory, always buy the 4 stick package.

And also note the official supported memory speed:

2x1R DDR5-5200
2x2R DDR5-5200
4x1R DDR5-3600
4x2R DDR5-3600

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-7950x" rel="nofollow - https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-7950x


I have seen so many cases that the blue screen, so called auto reboot ( this is actually a blue screen ), application BSOD are 90% related to the RAM.

Hope this can help some people.


Well, I for one would like to thank you for bringing this to attention - I've had a couple of unexpected reboots since finishing my new build and testing it, and as many do, I went to BIOS-updates firstly, switching over to the latest in the beta branch just a few minutes ago. Since i'm running 2x32gb RAM at 5600mhz i'm surmising it's likely I'll end up having to turn them down to 5200mhz to stay within the CPU spec for the 7950 and attain complete stability.. I was sure I had checked everything beforehand, but it's really easy to miss important details like these, so again thank you!

Here's the build:
X670E Taichi
Ryzen 9 7950x
G.Skill D5 5600 64gb (F5-5600J3636D32GX2-RS5K - should be on QVL for the board)
Samsung 990 Pro 1tb
Samsung 870 EVO 4tb
Straight Power 11 1000w PSU
Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU cooler
Asus TUF OC 4080
A couple of Light Wings for chassis airflow
All in the good old Panteks Enthoo Pro full tower for plenty of space

The issues i've experienced so far:

One reboot at the windows login screen - the screen itself was stable for at least 5 minutes, moving the mouse around yielded nothing on-screen, at the first keypress to (maybe) engage Windows Hello, the system rebooted unexpectedly instead. This was a cold boot in the early morning.

One reboot during multitask stresstesting, running a GPU benchmark on one monitor, and "power-browsing like an idiot" on the other to monitor to check for crosschatter issues. Without warning, both screens went into inverted colours for about 2 seconds and froze, then the system rebooted. This was after about 4 or so hours of running other stresstests and benchmarks with no issues.

Both logged as classic ID 41 Kernel Power failure.

During both, the MB was running the latest non-beta BIOS, 1.11. I've now gone into the latest in the beta-branch, 1.11AS06, though as mentioned above, I'm kind of expecting to have another occurrence or two of unexpected reboots and then downclocking my RAM to 5200 in that eventuality. Updates may or may not follow, no promises, but also no threats


Posted By: sunl1te
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2023 at 11:45pm
Originally posted by zoneslash zoneslash wrote:

Well, I for one would like to thank you for bringing this to attention - I've had a couple of unexpected reboots since finishing my new build and testing it, and as many do, I went to BIOS-updates firstly, switching over to the latest in the beta branch just a few minutes ago. Since i'm running 2x32gb RAM at 5600mhz i'm surmising it's likely I'll end up having to turn them down to 5200mhz to stay within the CPU spec for the 7950 and attain complete stability.. I was sure I had checked everything beforehand, but it's really easy to miss important details like these, so again thank you!

Here's the build:
X670E Taichi
Ryzen 9 7950x
G.Skill D5 5600 64gb (F5-5600J3636D32GX2-RS5K - should be on QVL for the board)
Samsung 990 Pro 1tb
Samsung 870 EVO 4tb
Straight Power 11 1000w PSU
Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU cooler
Asus TUF OC 4080
A couple of Light Wings for chassis airflow
All in the good old Panteks Enthoo Pro full tower for plenty of space

The issues i've experienced so far:

One reboot at the windows login screen - the screen itself was stable for at least 5 minutes, moving the mouse around yielded nothing on-screen, at the first keypress to (maybe) engage Windows Hello, the system rebooted unexpectedly instead. This was a cold boot in the early morning.

One reboot during multitask stresstesting, running a GPU benchmark on one monitor, and "power-browsing like an idiot" on the other to monitor to check for crosschatter issues. Without warning, both screens went into inverted colours for about 2 seconds and froze, then the system rebooted. This was after about 4 or so hours of running other stresstests and benchmarks with no issues.

Both logged as classic ID 41 Kernel Power failure.

During both, the MB was running the latest non-beta BIOS, 1.11. I've now gone into the latest in the beta-branch, 1.11AS06, though as mentioned above, I'm kind of expecting to have another occurrence or two of unexpected reboots and then downclocking my RAM to 5200 in that eventuality. Updates may or may not follow, no promises, but also no threats


If I were you, I would do these:

0) Make sure the BIOS setting are default, disable Curve Optimizer. If you have Ryzen Master installed, set to default mode.

1) Use memtest86+ to do a full test (one round is enough)
If any error detected, it's the memory timing compatibility, try reduce to 5200 and test again.

2) If memtest86 never detects any error, remove the video card and use embedded one, run your windows in Safe mode, disable "Auto Reboot" so you will know blue screen happened. No need to do any stress test, just web browsing or keep the computer powered on.
If it's stable, then I would reset / reinstall windows, that means some driver/software/windows setting caused the issue.
If it's still unstable, I would find another MB and install my CPU, RAM on it, do the test until the root cause is found.


Posted By: crazy098
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 5:00am
I've been following this thread because I've been having a similar issue. Upon booting from a cold start, the pc enters win 11 and runs for about 5 minutes before it shuts down and restarts. Occasionally upon restart the pc fails to boot into windows. Once I've shut down and restart, the system's rock solid with zero errors. This is a clean install of win 11, I've run both memtest and windows memory diagnostic with zero errors. I've also stress tested the cpu with zero errors. I'm guessing it's something in the bios. I'm running 1.11 latest stable...I tried the betas before but they were nothing but blue screens for me. I'll give as06 another shot though...possibly c-state related? Or could it be windows related? I don't have any other equipment to test the components on.


Posted By: Katana1074
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 5:29am
Hi there

Are there any errors in the windows logs ??

regards


Posted By: crazy098
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 8:50am
Yes, this is the error from event log that almost always shows up:

Faulting application name: dwm.exe, version: 10.0.22621.608, time stamp: 0x8783b131
Faulting module name: dwmcore.dll, version: 10.0.22621.900, time stamp: 0xb419c772
Exception code: 0x8898008d
Fault offset: 0x0000000000122e3e
Faulting process id: 0x0x6C78
Faulting application start time: 0x0x1D93B31AFA05048
Faulting application path: C:\Windows\System32\dwm.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\dwmcore.dll
Report Id: c576ec08-7b3d-496f-a7ec-7b27033a6c48
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

Again, this is from a clean install and I've tried repairing the installation but no errors were found. After rebooting from a cold start I get no errors in event log at all.


Posted By: Katana1074
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 6:09pm
do you use the built in gpu and an graphics card ???

as with my x670 taichi, windows would bluescreen with both graphics enabled....


Posted By: crazy098
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 7:57pm
Yes, I never disabled the onboard gpu. I'll check to see if it's disabled in bios. If it is, I'll disable it in windows, leave my pc off while I sleep and see what happens.


Posted By: Katana1074
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 12:13am
I Would disable the igpu in your bios, as it cured the bluescreens for me ...


Posted By: mcstagg
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 1:47am
I am starting to wonder if this is related to the problem I have while running exclusively on the iGPU.

If I use 1.07 or 1.09 the iGPU is clocked at 800mhz and is perfectly stable. If however I use 1.11 or any of the beta versions it goes to 2200mhz and I have constant display driver crashes.

I?m guessing they have borked something with the behind the scenes settings to achieve this bump in speed on the iGPU.

I can?t test with a dedicated GPU as mine has not arrived yet.


Posted By: Katana1074
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 2:01am
Yeah there are some funky things going on with bios releases, unsure whether this is ASrock or AMD`s fault, I would stick to an older bios for now and mail tech support about the issue, at the end of the day you pay your money I would expect a stable system....

Seems that there are numerous issues with am5 in general, whether they can be fixed who knows....


Posted By: mcstagg
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 2:46am
Literally minutes after my previous reply I seem to have had some sort of breakthrough. Linked earlier in this thread is the 1.14 BIOS version.

This version exposes a setting called gfx overclocking which by default is set to auto. Changing this to customize and leaving the frequency at 2200 mhz resolves all of the crashes.

I am also running with Precision Boost Overdrive enabled and my RAM is using its EXPO 6000mhz profile.

This seems to confirm my theory that the behind the scenes overclock of the iGPU has been set up incorrectly in some way.


Posted By: Katana1074
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 3:16am
Wow well done, I may try your fix soon, all we need is for ASrock to incorporate this in future bios releases, I could do with a fix for one of my nvme drives showing up as removable then I would probably be happy lol....


Posted By: mcstagg
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 3:44am
It does seem that this is indeed the fix at least for me. I've been running 3D benchmarks eversince without any problems and I no longer crash immediatley upon logging into Windows with subsequent repeated crashes. Switching the setting I changed back to Auto brings the crashes back again.

This is the link that was shared by another user to the 1.14 BIOS https://download.asrock.com/BIOS/AM5/X670E%20Taichi" rel="nofollow - https://download.asrock.com/BIOS/AM5/X670E%20Taichi (1.14.AS06)ROM.zip

Bare in mind that it was taken down from the official download page because of a problem with cores being disabled on certain CPU's so your mileage may vary. My 7950x is not affected by this and is running exactly as it was originally on 1.07 if not a little faster.

Yeah that NVME drive problem also exists for me. Did you place it in the drive slot just below the CPU socket? The one advertised as PCIe 5.0.

I'm going to try moving it to another slot tomorrow and see if that fixes that particular problem.


Posted By: crazy098
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 4:25am
I booted the pc this morning and no luck. Cold boot resulted in restart, no errors in event log when I got into windows.


Posted By: Katana1074
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 2:39pm
Mcstagg, I have 3 nvme drives, which are in the top slot (above gpu) and 2 in the lower slots (that takes 2 drives),im gonna try your fix later on today for igpu not that I use the igpu but would be good to have it working....


Posted By: Katana1074
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 2:40pm
Crazy098 have you tried mcstagg`s fix for igpu ??


Posted By: Juuso
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2023 at 8:29pm
This solved, my random crashing prblems that I have been figting since launch.
It is day two and I have been leavin the computer sleeping while not i use and It wakes up and works normally now. Thank you!
I have the 7950X with 32GB of Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 6000Mhz and Asus TUF 4090.
My problem was that the computer crashed very often after a long gamio session or other longer period doing active work. Not during the work, but whn idling and "cooling down" really mysterious. All torture tests went well, but leaving thje computer on idel on letting it go to sleep resulted really often in a crash.
After instaling the 1.14 bios and cganging the GPU oveclock from auto to 2200 Mhx seems to have cured everything!!


Posted By: mcstagg
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 12:12am
That?s awesome! I?m currently going back and forth with Asrock support on this and they are testing out my fix as well. I will let them know that at least one other person has had this resolve their crashes.


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 2:56am
Awesome, thanks for sharing your solution mcstagg. It's great to hear ASRock is
working with you to resolve the issue too.

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Posted By: crazy098
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 8:02pm
@Katana1074: I just tried flashing 1.14 beta and same as before got nothing but blue screens. I remember reading that disabling fast boot in windows solved the issue for some people. I just did that and I'll see what happens in the morning. My next step is to disable it in bios.


Posted By: Octavean
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 12:51pm
Originally posted by topdog360 topdog360 wrote:

I built my new setup last weekend with the following specs:
670E Taichi MB
7950x
64GB GSkill Flare X5
Zotac RTX 4090
1.11AS06 BETA BIOS

Had nothing but problems out of the gate.
- crashing during windows install
- different bluescreen errors every time
- Finally managed to get Windows installed then issues started again while updating
- BIOS is at least always stable while inside
Things I tried:
- removed all drives except primary M2
- removed 2 sticks of RAM
- no EXPO on RAM

I was finally able to get Windows running and it appeared stable. I reinstalled the other RAM sticks and was able to perform various benchmarks, and even played Portal RTX for an 1.5 hours with no issue. Then crash. Windows restarts and doing nothing would random crash, different error every time.

I have been monitoring this thread and noticed the comment from Asrock regarding disabling C-State in the BIOS. I figured Id give it a shot. PC has been running rock stable now for 7 hours no BSOD of any kind. Im 100% convinced this is AGESA/BIOS related at this point.


Little update.

I finally had a chance to tackle some of the stability issues that my RyZen 7950X / ASRock B650E PG Riptide WiFi based system.   First I tried a new BIOS version 1.11AS04 which didn?t help. Since the system would blue screen , freeze or just randomly reboot at initial boot primarily it?s easy to spot.

I tried disabling the C-State option in BIOS after the beta upgrade and that seemed to address the issue. All indications are that the system is now rock solid.


Posted By: Juuso
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 5:54pm
Unfortunately after a couple of days the freezing seems to be still present even with the 1.14 beta bios and the IGPU overclocking at 2200.
I ran a tough torture test for an hour or so and then let the pc rest.
I had power saving set so that the screen shuts down after 15 minutes and the computer goes to sleep after 30. When I came back after about 40 minutes the screen was black, but all the lights were on the pc and it did not respond to the keyboard or mouse. Had to press reset to reboot the thing. Fast boot is already disabled, but next I am going to disable all power saving features and see if this will help.


Posted By: mcstagg
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 6:00pm
I would suggest either disabling the iGPU outright or lower the clock speed to 800mhz which is what BIOS version 1.07 had. It could just be that your particular cpu is still unstable with that 2200mhz overclock.


Posted By: crazy098
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 7:26pm
Disabling fast boot didn't work for me, either in bios, windows, or both. I've now disabled all c states and will post my results. I'm optimistic this will work as I noticed a C2 dr debug code (means there was an error waking from c2 state) on one of my crashes from a cold boot.

Off topic, but I'd like to thank everyone in this thread, even this forum for their troubleshooting contributions. It's great to see everyone working together, trying to help each other out, and trying to figure these issues out once and for all. I'm both glad and proud to be a member of the ASRock community.


Posted By: Juuso
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 10:46pm
Ok. IGPU Disabled and the C-states as well. I will report in a couple of days if everything is stable.


Posted By: crazy098
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2023 at 5:47pm
Ok, no I have absolutely no idea what's going on. I've disabled all c states, disabled igpu, and disabled fast boot. I still have the issue where I get a restart from a cold boot. No errors in event log when I get into windows, no blue screen before restart.

My igpu still shows up in device manager under other devices -> PCI Device. Should I try uninstalling it?


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2023 at 12:25am
Hi Crazy098, out of curiosity, do you have your RAM installed in slots A2 and B2?
If you are using 2 modules they should always be in these slots. I have seen a lot
of issues (restart on cold boot being a common one) caused by having the RAM in slots
A1 and B1.

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