990 fx extreme6 SSD
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Topic: 990 fx extreme6 SSD
Posted By: Torak
Subject: 990 fx extreme6 SSD
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 8:46pm
" rel="nofollow - Am looking to purchase a ~ Toshiba OCZ RD400 Series Solid State Drive PCIe NVMe M.2 256GB with MLC Flash (RVD400-M22280-256G)i am seeing it is NVMe Protocol (PCIe, Gen. 3 x 4) and my 990 fx extreme6 has a 1 M.2 (PCIe Gen2 x2 & SATA3) bios vers 1.40 adds M.2 and NVMe support... will this work?...work but not as fast as advertised?
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 10:58pm
The below from your MB's product page
Best I can read from above and elsewhere on these pages is your fastest option will be an AIC card plugged into a PCIe slot as it appears the M.2 position is limited to SATA III speeds. As you're located in the US contact ASRock Tech Support using one of the below means and verify first though as I'm not 100% convinced I'm correct. Too, remember they may be on an extended vacation from yesterday thru Sunday due to Thanksgiving here. Support Phone: 1-909-590-8308 Support Email: mailto:support@asrockamerica.com" rel="nofollow - support@asrockamerica.com And reply back with their answer if you remember please. Your MB fell smack dab in the middle of M.2 and NVME tech being introduced so I'd personally as a Moderator here like to know for future reference if you'd be so kind. |
Posted By: Torak
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 11:16pm
Will do on both counts....tho at this point we will have to see who is faster....Asrock on the reply or Amazon on the shipping 
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 11:22pm
 Amazon shipping is speedy. |
Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2016 at 11:57pm
This is not so hard to figure out, if you have some experience with PCIe NVMe SSDs. The OCZ RD400, as most NVMe SSDs, need a PCIe 3.0 x4 interface to get their optimal performance. The AMD 990FX systems provide support for PCIe 2.0, which is 5Gb/s per lane. PCIe 3.0 is 8Gb/s per lane, with less overhead in the data transfer. The M.2 slot on your board is both a PCIe 2.0 x2 interface (two PCIe 2.0 lanes), and can be used with SATA M.2 SSDs. The RD400 requires PCIe 3.0 x4, four PCIe 3.0 lanes for optimal performance. So the M.2 slot on this board will have at best 50% of the performance of a full PCIe 3.0 x4 interface. It will be a little less than 50% actually. There are M.2 to PCIe slot adapter cards that can be used with M.2 NVMe SSDs. You could use one of the adapter cards in the PCIE3 or PCIE5 slot, and provide a PCIe 2.0 x4 interface to the RD400. But since the interface is PCIe 2.0, you won't get the full performance of the RD400. All of this applies to any mother board, AMD or Intel, depending upon the PCIe support (2.0 or 3.0), the PCIe lane allocation to the M.2 slot, and the available PCIe lanes in the PCIe slots. ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/48rujh" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 12:09am
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Try and beat Amazon by at least trying to call them. And remember, there in CA it's PST. |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 12:17am
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Says you. Is there any drive interface you haven't thoroughly run through the ringer there yet?
That's what I thought. Thanks for the clarification parsec. |
Posted By: Torak
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 2:22am
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Still awaiting reply from Asrock but found on Toshiba tech support in reply to if an NVMe enabled MB was needed to use the rd-400/A, the reply was that it can be used in ANY MB that supports M.2 or PCIe storage devices , NVMe is only needed if it is to be used as a boot drive. Though in looking at its full specs it says : PCIe Express Base Specification Revision 3.1. with no mention of backwards compatibilty... I will hold off on tearing into it tomorrow til i hear from Asrock i guess, tho even if the *best* i can hope for is nearly half of roughly five times faster read speads of an avg ssd ... ------------- ASrock 990FX Extreme 6 AMD FX 6300 Black Edition EVGA 1070 GTX OC 16g pny xlr8 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX 750m Corsair Spec-01 Carbide Series |
Posted By: Torak
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2016 at 2:43am
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...or more if i go the add in card route. Reason for wanting to go the M.2 is more based on plans for building a custom clear desk/case ala the Lian Li DK-01. No sata ssd's = even less wires to manage Hopefully tax time will add either an 8 or 9 series chip and liquid to replace the 6300 ------------- ASrock 990FX Extreme 6 AMD FX 6300 Black Edition EVGA 1070 GTX OC 16g pny xlr8 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX 750m Corsair Spec-01 Carbide Series |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 2:03am
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" rel="nofollow - Dunno why but cant seem to recover acct so had to make new, Still as yet no reply from ASRock and amazon has been and gone, do see on the extremely limited documentation that it is PCIe Gen2 compatible so there's that. Tiny lil bugger got it and some lil cushion/pad/heatsink maybe?...not sure ...have to DL manual and drivers yet ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 5:31am
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So am now waiting to hear from Toshiba as I would prefer one of their Add in cards as opposed to the ones that may or may not work from some amazon store~ as I can't seem to locate theirs for sale online anywheres ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 10:01am
Some people love video cards, I love SSDs. Drive IO is the slowest thing in a PC, what better way to speed things up? Not many other drive interfaces to use with a PC. Interface is the main point, SATA is one, so is NVMe. Both need a driver to operate, and a little UEFI/BIOS magic to boot from. NVMe SSDs are not unique hardware devices in that each one needs special support. We don't need that for SATA drives, the same goes for NVMe drives. We can use SATA III SSDs on a SATA II or even SATA I interface. PCIe just sends data back and forth, the driver program does the magic of converting the data into the format each side needs. Video card data won't mean anything to a SATA or NVMe driver, but a video card driver deals with it fine. You can use a PCIe 3.0 compatible video card on a PCIe 2.0 interface mother board, right? The hardware level data interface for SATA drives is what? It's not SATA, that is a data protocol, not a data transport mechanism. It's actually a type of PCIe, used to be PCIe 2.0, now Intel has PCIe 3.0 in their 100 series chipsets, although they call in DMI 3.0, previously DMI 2.0. AMD might use something else, but I doubt it. The Microsoft generic msahci SATA driver can be used with Intel and AMD chipsets. I sure don't own every NVMe SSD made, but as long as I have a driver for it, it will work.
That's what I thought. Thanks for the clarification parsec. [/QUOTE] I used an Intel 750 NMVe SSD in my ASRock Z77 board. With an i7-2600K, it supports PCIe 2.0. I had one of those in the board, and that SSD worked fine, a little slower on the large file sequential read speed. But I did have a PCIe 2.0 x4 connection. I then put an i5 Ivy Bridge CPU in the board, which supports PCIe 3.0, and I then had the full large file sequential read speed. That's using benchmark programs to test speeds. Real world usage is always slower, monitor drive speed while installing a program, if it peaks at 100MB/s, that is fast. Other factors such as latency are more significant. ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/48rujh" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 10:09am
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The RD400 is routinely sold with or without the M.2 to PCIe adapter card. The price difference is $20. In the link below, find Form Factor to the right of the picture of the RD400, and click on AIC to see the Add In Card (AIC) version of the RD400. Sorry for the text only link, problem with the forum link tool and some URLs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820228162 I own an RD400 and have the AIC version. I put a Samsung 950 Pro in the AIC as a test, works fine. ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/48rujh" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 10:25am
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" rel="nofollow - How big of an improvement would the addin card do me over just putting it in the M.2 slot. And might there be any addin card you would recommend if i can't get one thru Toshiba ? ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 10:28am
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" rel="nofollow - ...and is it just me that can only pull up my MB off ASRock's site via google?...very oddly if i just got to the site and look thru both the AM3+ list or even all products list the Extreme 6 is Not there. If i google it it will take me right to the page and from there it is in the lists...like 2 diff websites altogether?? ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 10:30am
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i already have the bare drive tho, it was a amazon deal at 119$ but discount was not applied to the AIC vers sadly~ ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 11:03am
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" rel="nofollow - Huh...they do appear to be diff sites http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.us.asp?s=AM3%2b is the list w/o mine and http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=AM3%2b does have it mine is missing the .us.? ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 12:22pm
Great. Another boner. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll see if I can get the webmasters attention and have it corrected. Again, Thanks, wardog |
Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 11:28pm
I see the 990FX Extreme6 listed in ASRock's USA website: http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=Current Unless they fixed it quickly, or just a temporary glitch. I can't tell from your posts which ASRock website you were looking at, that did not have your board listed. Notice in the URL above the word Current. That means mother boards that are currently sold, which can vary from market to market. Meaning a board could be sold in Europe and not in the USA, for example. Sure, you can directly find older ASRock boards that are no longer sold at all, or sold in limited places, with a Google search. If you use the Search box at the top of the ASRock Motherboard listing page, you can find many models of ASRock boards that were sold at one time, but no longer sold anymore at all, or not sold in certain places. For example, enter "970" in the Search box, and you'll get a list of 12, 970 chipset boards. But in the list of currently sold boards, only six 970 boards are listed. ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/48rujh" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 1:32am
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Yet the conundrum, if Current, is why doesn't it show when clicking AM3+ on the Main Menu http://asrock.com/mb/index.us.asp?s=AM3%2b EDIT: Most won't think nor bother to notice your way or the All Product List at the bottom. |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 1:37am
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At the top right of page(s)...ones says US/English my board does not exsist on that page...All Products >Search 990 FX Extreme6 = Sorry!..No Data. ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 1:38am
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Other says Global/English and there it is... ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 2:24am
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" rel="nofollow - Any thoughts on the add in card and or the diff in performance between using one and just using the M.2 slot on my board? Still no word from Asrock or toshiba so the holiday thing will have me waiting till monday or tuesday im sure ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 3:53am
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If I've kept up reading parsec's responses to you here the PCIe based AIC card will result in being the speediest. |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 4:07am
Aye agreed, just curious if the difference between the two is huge or negligible and what AiC cards he may have used ,aside from the Toshiba/OCZ one he mentioned using, that i am still trying to find seperately  ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 10:26am
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" rel="nofollow - He uses this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2BM-0011-00001 |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 10:46am
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Awesome thanks )...ordered ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 2:47pm
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" rel="nofollow - NewEgg needs to stop posting 3rd party Sellers products. Their damn site now looks the same as Sears and Walmarts websites. Below is the part from NewEgg, not hippo schmippo whoever. And $5.00 cheaper. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2BM%2D0011%2D00001&ignorebbr=1 |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2016 at 7:56am
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" rel="nofollow - Well..yea its 5$ cheaper but 6$ shipping makes the hippo actually cheaper 0.o..... So....ASRock basically repeated what Parsec and you said as far as it working no problem just at the reduced speed due to the Gen2 "The Speed will be limited
due to mainboard?™s M.2 slot is Gen2x2 due to 990FX chipset limitation. " Based on what Parsec had said i wont worry much about the card only being **Compatible with ASUS boards Intel chipsets**either...unless he pops in and says otherwise) ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: Torakk
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2016 at 6:02am
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And the word from Toshiba /OCZ.... " thanks for your reply. We do not sell the PCIe adaptor cards separately. You can order a RD400A with adaptor card or you can buy any of the adaptor cards available at various reseller. Kind Regards, Tobias Winkelmann | Junior Technical Support Manager http://www.ocz.com" rel="nofollow - www.ocz.com " ------------- 970A-G/3.1 FX8320e EVGA GTX1070SC 2x8g pny 1866 ddr3 Corsair CX750M Carbide series spec01 R7 1700x, X370 Taichi, EVGA GTX 1070 Hybrid,16g Corair 3200 vengeance LPX , Corsair 750w psu , TT view 27 |
Posted By: thelazylightning
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2023 at 1:26am
| Hi! Excuse me for bumping this rather old thread. I just purchased a brand new 990FX Extreme6 motherboard that was locked up in a warehouse all these years. It's brand new. I was very pleased to find out it has an m.2 SSD card slot. However, from what I can understand here, an m.2 SSD NVMe card (EVO 970) will work faster on this motherboard using a PCIe x16 adapter to plug it into a PCIe x16 slot - than it will if it is actually connected to it's m.2 slot on the board.Do I understand you correctly? |
Posted By: thelazylightning
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2023 at 1:33am
So will an m.2 NMVe SSD card will work faster using a PCIe x16 adapter plugging it into a PCIe x16 - faster than placing installing the card into the m.2 slot of the 990 FX Extrem6 motherboard? I just purchased a brand new Extreme6 board that was sitting in a warehouse all these years. |