970a-g/3.1 + R9 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 2133 problem
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Topic: 970a-g/3.1 + R9 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 2133 problem
Posted By: Zirw
Subject: 970a-g/3.1 + R9 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 2133 problem
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 12:27am
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" rel="nofollow - Hello today I bought a new memory R9 Gamer Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 MHz CL10 (AG34G2130U1) "r938g2130u1k" two sets, a total of 16 gigabytes. This memory is in the list of supported, on the official website! It says that four modules can operate in 2133. Here is a link http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970A-G3.1/?cat=Memory But the computer does not start with 4 bars! He did not report to his error only helps pressing the power supply button. It only works with two modules. The four-mode only in 1600. For this purpose, the two modules in the bios I have exhibited in 1600 to preserve and then add two more module. Why do not all four modules at the stated frequency? When overclocking the bus I get overclocking of RAM and all four modules reach a maximum of 1760. But when accelerating on the bus I get a pcie 1.1 what I wrote in the next topic! Please, help. I checked memory on the same motherboard from a friend, the same problems. Then he checked with the same processor in my old motherboard 970 chipset, it works, then it is not a processor or memory? |
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 4:04am
Dang dude ............. In the BIOS, look for CPU/Northbridge Voltage I just looked in the manual: OC Tweaker > OC Mode - Manual > CPU NB Voltage - raise this +0.100 The "CPU NB Voltage" is what feeds the processors internal memory controller(IMC). Loading the IMC using four sticks stresses it and thus that CPU/N Voltage tweak should get you running. Post back if it doesn't. And two separate kits most times works. There are sometimes a change that what appears two identical kits is in fact enough of a difference that the two can become incompatible. But post back your results of adding +0.100v first please. |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 4:32am
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" rel="nofollow - I picked it up to 1.200v. It should be more? Perhaps we must also what that voltage raise HyperTransport example? |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 4:34am
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" rel="nofollow - Nope. No need. HT or NB. CPU/NB yes. Are you using either AMP or XMP to set their timings? |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 4:35am
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NB and CPU/NB are two completely different things BTW. |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 4:41am
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I know. But because the memory is based on the north bridge. Do not raise the voltage NB is necessary? Thank you for your quick answers. Frankly at this forum is very good attitude to the people! On the other we will not name the brand, the attitude is much worse! I just left everything in auto mode and is unable to boot. Then he was charged with two bars they work in all modes! But with four bars is the problem. As to how much you can safely raise the CPU NB?I did not find the way to the point of breaking up the instructions, which instructions you used? Link please? I did not find the way to the point of breaking up the instructions, which instructions you used? Link please? |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 4:58am
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No. Do not raise the NB voltage. I know AMD systems up, down, and inside out. What I suggested is from experience. Monitoring temps obviously, a safe bet is you can raise it up +0.15v w/o too much to worry about. Set the 4 primary timings and the sticks 2133 voltage manually in the BIOS. Don't use AMP or XMP just yet as they can be problematic. |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 5:04am
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Thank you, I understand you'll try. Just annoying that every time the PC will not boot that would run it is necessary to remove two strips of memory :( And sometimes even the CMOS and fold. Today, I am already tired of trying, I will try tomorrow with renewed vigor! |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 11:50am
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" rel="nofollow - When you get back to having time, do this. Separate out your two kits by serial numbers. You should at this point have two kits, each with consecutive serials. 1. With it powered off, the cable from the wall removed, press the cases Power Button for three seconds. 2. Place one kit, two sticks, in the Black mem slots, DDR3_A2 and DDR3_B2 3. Clear the bios 4. Apply wall power and power up 5. Did it boot? 5a. Yes, continue to Windows and grab a screenshot of the Memory and SPD tabs of CPU-s for EACH of the two sticks. 5a.1 Now repeat the above steps with the other kit, remembering to clear the BIOS before booting. 5b. No. Repeat the above steps with the other kit, remembering to clear the BIOS before booting. Post back what you discover in performing the above steps with each of the two kits you have. |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 12:11am
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" rel="nofollow - All the work done and the steps to make a photo. Basically, I did so in one set of black slots in the second krasyne. |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 1:09am
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1.750? The "CPU NB Voltage"? If that true, that's way too high. DRAM Voltage maybe? Even then, probably too high. Don't shoot for the moon when adjusting. You want to find the lowest v's your specific system runs stably on. |
Zirw wrote:Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 1:14am
Errr, um, maybe they are 1.5v |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 3:11am
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Initially, I had a CPU NB voltage 1.1625 I changed just one step up to 1.1750. memory voltage in the auto mode is at the level of 1.65. As only reduce CPU NB voltage to 1.1625 computer does not start with four memory modules! I can take pictures of bios setup with which it works! Excuse me! just I noticed that not sealed 1.75 I meant 1.175! Sorry  I rejoiced too early! Memory timings do not match the declared and CPU-Z says that the effective memory frequency 800MHZ http://f21.ifotki.info/thumb/638ecacd09998b1c9987db4ad18562ab5f411f270630812.jpg" rel="nofollow - Not displayed APM and XMP why? On the other motherboard they appear! http://i-fotki.info/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 7:20am
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" rel="nofollow - Until you set AMP/XMP their initial first post Mhz will be 1600. Remember, the memory is Dual Data Rate, DDR, so CPU-z will show "half' of the speed. So 800 = 1600 in reality. Is the pic above this post taken with all four sticks installled? Notice below H/W Monitor, where it says DDR3_A1? Please also post pics of DDR3_A2, DDR3 _B1, and DDR3_B2. You do this by clicking on the DDR_A1 button and selecting the other three sticks location. |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 6:30pm
http://i-fotki.info/21/c3304563d0377746d6d3c937102c39595f411f270678552.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://i-fotki.info/21/f80d5abab578c41e5ed8fb7bcf10f84e5f411f270678730.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://i-fotki.info/21/8acd7bb0f214d4cff41cc2e2f3b141c95f411f270678755.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://i-fotki.info/21/ef2d45812ce3aa9473688a223740d7d95f411f270678778.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> I have read many forums. No one could not make it work four memory strip above 1600 on this motherboard. If you overclock the BUS, the memory takes over and 1866 but the card becomes 1.1! Vicious circle! What I just did not do: raise the voltage to the CPU NB 1.35-1.4v, raising the memory voltage up 1.65-1.7v, clocked NB not to the frequency of 2400-2600 nothing helps! From under the BIOS overclocking leads to the fact that the PC can not boot even in the bios! Overclock comes through AMD overdrive because AXTU contains errors. I'm tired of this motherboard problems. And the fact that there is still no update bios, it's weird! |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 7:22pm
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Type out here the settings you're changing when you say "OC the bus." |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 7:25pm
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" rel="nofollow - Also, list out the components by Make and P/N that make up your system, including the PSU and it's age. Too, is the computer connected directly to a wall outlet, or power strip? |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 12:49am
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" rel="nofollow - Memory takes 1765 when BUS
220. The power supply has changed recently at Templarius 850W 80+ Silver. PC is
connected to the UPS to 1500W. Processor card xf8350 GTX1070 16gb 4x4
unilateral AMD R9 bar. I decided to reduce timings :) course through the BIOS. Any change leads to the fact that the PC does not start. If you change the timings via AMD Overdrive everything OK! I checked again on another motherboard. My CPU is my graphics card and my two sets of memory and my power supply work. Memory starts all 4 bracket for 1866 and even at 2133Mhz. Tested on the MSI 970 Krait edition. Then to be sure I vzl old card GIGABYTE 760g and even the memory of it all 4 strips earned in 1866! Why is that? After 970a-g / 3.1 class above these motherboards? It's a marriage? I was about to accept, but I can not even reduce the timings! Almost any manipulation in the BIOS lead to the fact that the PC does not start. And with four bars, I can not clear the CMOS as the motherboard determines them as of 1866 and does not start with them. To reset the CMOS every time I have to take out the two memory strip. P.S. Do not even the
manufacturer BETA version of the BIOS? For all products on the 970 chipset came
out at least one update the BIOS? kromne 970a-g / 3.1 :) |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 1:24am
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Instead of OC'ing the bus, which brings many headaches, instead leave the bus at 200 and change the multiplier. |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 1:25am
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Oh, and put your HT back to 2000 or 2200 when changing the multiplier. |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 2:04am
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The more I look over what you've posted to date the more I'm convinced you got scammed on this memory. It doesn't appear as though they are what they claim to be. Fire up four instances of CPU-z and show me each of the four "Memory" tabs. One for each stick please. |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 2:12am
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" rel="nofollow - You do not quite understand correctly! When BCLK overclocking up to 220 still takes great memory 1765MHZ. But with this video card will be determined as a pcie 1.1. By this I drive the bus from the windows, and it works! But I can not get the maximum speed of your memory! The maximum is 1765, and only if the BCLK overclocking to 220. If the bios select 1866 or 2133 PC does not start. With two memory modules PC starts at 2133. I wish that he had started with four memory modules in 2133, as stated on the official website! The question is why everything works fine when I clocked out of the windows and did not work when I clocked out of bios?
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Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 2:18am
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If you do not overclock the BCLK and memory to deliver on the 1866 or 2133 PC does not boot, it is necessary to remove the two memory modules and reset the CMOS! Although the motherboard into auto mode offers a frequency of 2133!
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 2:22am
hehe I'm trying to  I really am. Hang in there with me.Please show the 4 CPU-z screen shots I asked for. You say the "old' MB displayed AMP/XMP, odd. |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 2:33am
http://i-fotki.info/21/cf90cbf80ecf1a05ccc25dabb9f9c94e5f411f270707037.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> This screen BIOS. My settings. If you save and exit the PC will not boot to bios. To make the picture will take time, I again have to disassemble the PC. I am writing timings and tried to drive them manually, this has no effect :( I'll Wait screen.
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Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 8:04am
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Here is a screen from another PC, where all four modules run on 2133Mhz. I rearranged the memory and the processor and power supply and graphics card. For a week I was the fifth time to disassemble and assemble your PC. I spent two tube of thermal paste.  I'm thinking to dance around a PC with a tambourine, in my opinion it can help more quickly than I'll wait for an updated bios for your board!  http://i-fotki.info/21/2441558cba352d3bca7852fcf3b4d81f5f411f270720698.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> Excuse me! just I noticed that not sealed 1.75 I meant 1.175!Here are the promised screen. I was the fifth time removed the processor, memory, graphics card and power supply to another PC. During this time the two spent a tube of thermal paste! |
Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 9:28pm
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Today is a very good day! I finally was able to run
four memory modules at 1866! Truth has other Kingston HyperX KHX1600C10D3 /
8GX. I took them from the computer's wife. Disperse them until 1866, and lo and
behold my board started and passed all tests! At the same timings even less :)
and a 32 GB memory and they are all in 1866. Thank you for your time on me, I'm
glad that everything was decided so. Perhaps the thing most memory from AMD. On
the processor intel i74770 wife computer motherboard Asus formula VI and there
is memory from AMD ran at 2133. But I gave her her first kit Kingston HyperX
1866 32. Now we have to get rid of the 16gb memory amd. Problem solved, thank
you all :) |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 11:10pm
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Posted By: Zirw
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 11:57pm
| You guessed. I mention this case a bottle of whiskey! Once again, thank you very much! |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 6:32am
Whiskey works too. Yet get the whiskey, I'll bring the women  |