C236 WSI mITX & Kaby Lake
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Topic: C236 WSI mITX & Kaby Lake
Posted By: Carouser
Subject: C236 WSI mITX & Kaby Lake
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2017 at 6:35am
First time poster and concerned citizen
I just purchased the AsRock c236 wsi mITX server board after extensive research and it is being sent as we speak from Amazon US as it is not available in Australia.
My plan was for the Skylake E3-1245v5 processor based on reviews and builds I researched. I have not purchased the processor yet and discovered that Intel are releasing the Kaby Lake Xeon E3-1245v6 with upgraded video. I understand that a bios update is required to utilize the new generation of processors, but cannot find my motherboard on the list.
The Kaby Lake Xeons do not seem to be released as yet, but would hate to buy Skylake and a few weeks later have the new processors available. Or find my board is not upgradable and a new version of the new c236 wsi mITX board compatible with Kaby Lake is released.
Am I doomed to building a new computer with OLD technology?
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2017 at 10:11am
What I see is they were supposed to release 1Q 2017.
This site says they're in stock, yet I kinda don't believe that. Some Sellers are shady in listing product soon to arrive as In Stock to hook ya. But they've been in business for quite awhile now IIRC like 20+ yrs so might be worth an email or call before ordering.
http://www.pcconnection.com/product/intel-xeon-e3-1245-v6-processor/bx80677e31245v6/33695267" rel="nofollow - http://www.pcconnection.com/product/intel-xeon-e3-1245-v6-processor/bx80677e31245v6/33695267
If you would, keep me posted.
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2017 at 10:13am
Carouser wrote:
Am I doomed to building a new computer with OLD technology?
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Patience Grasshopper. Patience
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Posted By: Kelxin
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 10:35am
So I went ahead and purchased this motherboard and want to point out a couple things and answer a couple of your questions (since ASROCK ignores support requests completely)
1. Right now, no, the C236 WSI does NOT support Kaby Lake CPU's. 2. There is listed a bios update under supported processors to enable support for them. 3. If you go to the download section, the P2.10 bios update is NO WHERE TO BE FOUND. 4. If you try to go to the FTP sites directly to find that update, directory listing is blocked. 5. You can NOT update the bios with a Kaby Lake CPU installed (it won't post at all). 6. ASRock doesn't answer support requests, so everything is at their own time.
So if you need Kaby Lake on this board, you'll need to wait for them to post the bios update, and have a 6th gen CPU handy to post and flash the bios, that is, whenever ASRock actually posts the bios to be able to download it.
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 10:54am
Kelxin wrote:
So I went ahead and purchased this motherboard and want to point out a couple things and answer a couple of your questions (since ASROCK ignores support requests completely)
1. Right now, no, the C236 WSI does NOT support Kaby Lake CPU's. 2. There is listed a bios update under supported processors to enable support for them. 3. If you go to the download section, the P2.10 bios update is NO WHERE TO BE FOUND. 4. If you try to go to the FTP sites directly to find that update, directory listing is blocked. 5. You can NOT update the bios with a Kaby Lake CPU installed (it won't post at all). 6. ASRock doesn't answer support requests, so everything is at their own time.
So if you need Kaby Lake on this board, you'll need to wait for them to post the bios update, and have a 6th gen CPU handy to post and flash the bios, that is, whenever ASRock actually posts the bios to be able to download it. |
Hang tight for a few minutes.
Let me see if I can grab this P2.10 BIOS you speak of.
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 11:06am
wardog wrote:
Hang tight for a few minutes.
Let me see if I can grab this P2.10 BIOS you speak of. |
Ok. I just looked where it should be.
I just sent an email to one of my contacts inside ASRock to look into this.
He may post directly in this Thread or email me. When(if) he emails me I'll immediately post his response.
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Posted By: Kelxin
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 7:57pm
Thanks for checking into this. I will be looking forward to if they get back to you.
I say IF because I have e-mails from almost a year ago (3 - 4 sent on the same subject) that they have never gotten back to me about the Z170 Extreme 7+ motherboard. It's almost like they got bored after the 5th e-mail and stopped responding completely. (When they were e-mailing, they were quite a bit of help.... Bios updates and bugs within bios revisions that I had found)
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 9:40pm
Kelxin wrote:
Thanks for checking into this. I will be looking forward to if they get back to you.
I say IF because I have e-mails from almost a year ago (3 - 4 sent on the same subject) that they have never gotten back to me about the Z170 Extreme 7+ motherboard. It's almost like they got bored after the 5th e-mail and stopped responding completely. (When they were e-mailing, they were quite a bit of help.... Bios updates and bugs within bios revisions that I had found) |
We Mods here are unpaid yet please accept my apology for this issue and your troubles.
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Posted By: Kelxin
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 10:13pm
I know you guys are unpaid, which is one of the reasons it's so surprising to me that I can get an answer from you in under a couple hours, and ASRock's paid support ignores people constantly, especially when a request is coming from someone like me that buys thousands of dollars worth of their products....
Again, thank you for your time with this.
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Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 10:37pm
Thank You for the acknowledgement / pat on our collective backs.
We three Mods here enjoy what we do.
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Posted By: Kelxin
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 5:30am
I actually got an e-mail back this morning! (Holy cow!) They attached a beta bios that I'm going to test out and get back to them on.
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Posted By: TheBigS
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 3:35pm
@Kelxin: i am very interessted in your testing results.
Also i want to inform you on this thread, that I asked the Asrock support and got this answer:
We are planning to update the bios for Kaby lake support for this board around the end of April.( These are in Lab phase at the moment) Please keep an eye on our website.
So hopefully your beta is working well.
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Posted By: TheBigS
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 4:54pm
" rel="nofollow - @Kelxin: Did you tested the beta bios?
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Posted By: andebor
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 4:25am
" rel="nofollow - @Kelxin: Any updates on the testing? I was a bit too trigger happy and ended up buying a kaby lake CPU, and as stated here, it won't even post. I'm currently considering if I should utilize the very user friendly return policy the store is offering and just wait until a new bios is released before re-buying or buying another model.
My other concern is how I'm going to update the bios without a successful post. Is that even possible? What does Asrock recommend in this situation?
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Posted By: Carouser2
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 9:23am
Replied to another post by accident and lost my original login as the OP
I have been a very patient grasshopper, and when I wasn't looking the E3 1245v6 is now available in Australia.
I have been planning my build and researching my requirements settling on the Skylake CPU that I was about to buy this week. But now I am back to researching and waiting to see if issues everyone is posting about do indeed get resolved in a timely fashion. Beginning of May is my deadline but realistically tested to launch in May.
I have not bought ram as yet and am wondering whether the Kaby Lake CPU have an effect on the ram for the C236 MB. I have read that Kaby Lake supports up to 2400MHz ram and wonder if the more prevalent registered ECC ram sticks might be used instead of unbuffered.
I too am exhibiting symptoms of trigger happiness.
I'll get back to being patient........
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Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 11:17am
andebor wrote:
" rel="nofollow - @Kelxin: Any updates on the testing?I was a bit too trigger happy and ended up buying a kaby lake CPU, and as stated here, it won't even post. I'm currently considering if I should utilize the very user friendly return policy the store is offering and just wait until a new bios is released before re-buying or buying another model.
My other concern is how I'm going to update the bios without a successful post. Is that even possible? What does Asrock recommend in this situation?
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Consider that not only did you post your question in another person's thread, but you didn't even read the first page of posts, which would have answered your question.
As is the case with EVERY Intel new/cross processor generation usage in the previous generation's chipset board, you CANNOT update the UEFI when using the new generation processor, since it will not POST, so you cannot use the UEFI update utility in the UEFI.
This is an Intel issue that they have never been able to fix, which goes back over five years. Your only options are, to replace the UEFI/BIOS chip in the board with a pre-loaded Kaby Lake compatible UEFI version (IF the board has a replaceable UEFI chip, that is not always the case anymore), or somehow get a Skylake processor in the board to perform the UEFI update with the Kaby Lake compatible UEFI version.
The store you bought the board from might provide the service to update the UEFI with a Skylake generation processor for you.
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Posted By: Chrys
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2017 at 6:19am
Carouser2 wrote:
I have not bought ram as yet and am wondering whether the Kaby Lake CPU have an effect on the ram for the C236 MB. I have read that Kaby Lake supports up to 2400MHz ram and wonder if the more prevalent registered ECC ram sticks might be used instead of unbuffered. |
No, Kaby Lake E3 Xeons can't use reg ECC. No change in that regard.
I use 2x 16 GB http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/CT16G4XFD824A" rel="nofollow - Crucial CT16G4XFD824A Since I am still running a Skylake it is limited to 2133 MHz of course.
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Posted By: Carouser2
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2017 at 3:17pm
Hey Chrys
The Ram you linked to is 2400MHz, and you are using that with the Skylake CPU? Am I reading this correctly?
I am looking at the 16gb Crucial http://www.crucial.com/ProductDisplay%3FurlRequestType=Base&catalogId=10151&categoryId=&productId=635001&urlLangId=-1&langId=-1&top_category=&parent_category_rn=&storeId=10151" rel="nofollow - CT16G4WFD8213 or 16g Kingston http://www.kingstonmemory.net.au/Kingston-ValueRam-Server-DDR3-2100MHz-C47/16GB-2133MHZ-DDR4-ECC-CL15-DIMM-2RX8-KMAKVR21E15D8/16.html" rel="nofollow - KVR21E15D8/16
I checked my mobo and it has a removable bios chip, and on the sticker it has C236_WSI P1.00
I'm getting ready to pounce should that beta prove successful.
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Posted By: REALfreaky
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 12:35pm
So, I contacted support today and received the following message:Kaby Lake BIOS support is still on finalizing stage. Once it is ready, the official version will be publicly released. For now, please temporarily use the unofficial version until the public release.
Attached to the support email was BIOS ROM v2.08 for the C236 WSI. I "instant flash"d it to my C236 and it's working perfectly with the G3930 I stupidly bought without proper research. I'm not sure if it's against the rules or anything but here's the zip for v2.08 that I was sent: https://www.sendspace.com/file/tvmrbg" rel="nofollow - C236 WSI(2.08)ROM.zip I assume that P2.10 will be the final version once everything is vetted. Luckily v2.08 is tying me (and my client) over for now.
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Posted By: Carouser2
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 2:44pm
Awesome REALfreaky!!!!!!
AsRock http://www.asrock.com/feature/instantflash/index.asp" rel="nofollow - Instant Flash link
Instructions: "ASRock Instant Flash is an exclusive and the most user-friendly BIOS flash utility developed by ASRock. It is embedded in Flash ROM which is used to update the system BIOS without having to enter operating systems like MS-DOS or Windows."
REALfreaky, can you clarify if you used the Kaby Lake CPU to flash or did you first use a compatible CPU in order to flash and POST then install Kaby Lake.
I am going to buy a Xeon E3 1245v6 that has the graphics processor for on board graphics. Do I need to use a separate GPU in order to see BIOS screen to flash ?
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Posted By: REALfreaky
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 11:31pm
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Carouser2 wrote:
REALfreaky, can you clarify if you used the Kaby Lake CPU to flash or did you first use a compatible CPU in order to flash and POST then install Kaby Lake. |
I had to borrow a friend's Skylake CPU to POST and Instant Flash the newer BIOS. After that, it was smooth sailing with my Kaby Lake CPU.
Carouser2 wrote:
I am going to buy a Xeon E3 1245v6 that has the graphics processor for on board graphics. Do I need to use a separate GPU in order to see BIOS screen to flash ? |
My G3930 has an integrated Intel GPU and it powered the VGA & HDMI ports coming off the C236 just fine. No second GPU was necessary for me. If the Xeon E3 1245v6 comes with built-in graphics then you should be fine.
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Posted By: Ochi
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 4:02am
I'm very eager to test the BIOS (I have a Skylake and a Kaby Lake Pentium lying around), but only if either official support can confirm that the file is authentic, or if the BIOS files are cryptographically signed o.o
It's really nice that you provided the file, REALfreaky, and I'm 99% sure you mean well, but who knows. :)
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Posted By: REALfreaky
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 5:04am
Ochi wrote:
I'm very eager to test the BIOS (I have a Skylake and a Kaby Lake Pentium lying around), but only if either official support can confirm that the file is authentic, or if the BIOS files are cryptographically signed o.o
It's really nice that you provided the file, REALfreaky, and I'm 99% sure you mean well, but who knows. :)
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I completely understand. Motherboards aren't something you want to flash random ROMs to. If you're at all concerned, you should contact ASRock tech support and ask them for the Kaby Lake BIOS for the C236 WSI. I just posted this here for convenience since this thread kept popping up during my google searches. If you do talk to tech support, you can compare the hashes for us and confirm or deny that they're the same file
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Posted By: Chrys
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 12:02pm
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Carouser2 wrote:
Hey ChrysThe Ram you linked to is 2400MHz, and you are using that with the Skylake CPU? Am I reading this correctly? |
Yes, usually RAM is compatible to lower frequencies. Since the SPD contains all settings there is no need for any manual tweeking.
Memory Module Properties Module Name Micron 18ADF2G72AZ-2G3B1 Manufacture Date Week 49 / 2016 Module Size 16 GB (2 ranks, 16 banks) Module Type Unbuffered DIMM Memory Type DDR4 SDRAM Memory Speed DDR4-2400 (1200 MHz) Module Width 72 bit Module Voltage 1.2 V Error Detection Method ECC DRAM Manufacturer Micron DRAM Stepping 42h SDRAM Die Count 1 Memory Timings @ 1200 MHz 21-17-17-39 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 55-421-313-193-6-4-7-26 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 1200 MHz 20-17-17-39 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 55-421-313-193-6-4-7-26 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 1200 MHz 19-17-17-39 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 55-421-313-193-6-4-7-26 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 1200 MHz 18-17-17-39 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 55-421-313-193-6-4-7-26 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 1200 MHz 17-17-17-39 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 55-421-313-193-6-4-7-26 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 1163 MHz 16-16-16-38 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 54-408-303-187-6-4-6-25 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 1090 MHz 15-15-15-35 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 50-382-284-175-6-4-6-23 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 1018 MHz 14-14-14-33 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 47-357-265-163-5-4-6-22 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 945 MHz 13-13-13-31 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 44-331-246-152-5-4-5-20 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 872 MHz 12-12-12-28 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 40-306-227-140-5-3-5-19 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 800 MHz 11-11-11-26 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 37-280-208-128-4-3-4-17 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) @ 727 MHz 10-10-10-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 34-255-190-117-4-3-4-16 (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW) Memory Module Features Monolithic DRAM Device Yes Thermal Sensor Present
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Posted By: TheBigS
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 3:46pm
Because of the late (or not) release of the BIOS update, i bought now an Asus P10S-I. Asus has just released the official BIOS update for Kaby Lake CPU support.
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Posted By: Carouser2
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 10:42pm
Hey Chrys
I was quite happy with my selection of 16g ram as recommended by Asrock for the C236 wsi. Now, I appreciate that you have the 2400MHz ram that works in your system and you supply information that I am not not knowledgeable enough to understand without copious googling and verification from 3 sources as a minimum. So I did that.
What I categorically do have knowledge about is finding bargains and the http://www.ao3.com.au/product.asp%3FManufPartNo=CT16G4XFD824A" rel="nofollow - CT16G4XFD824A 16gb is for sale in Australia for AUD$115. That is like getting 2 for the price of one kind of bargain for me. This company does ship internationally and in the conversion would be less than US$100. Not sure if this is a mistake as prices vary wildly in my google searches. An http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crucial-Memory-CT16G4XFD824A-16GB-DDR4-2400-ECC-Retail-/162229316744" rel="nofollow - Ebay seller has them for US$619 and doesn't even ship to Australia and your link was for US$183.
I ordered and paid for 2 to max out the c236. I'll find out soon enough if they honour the deal.
This is also related to an earlier question about the Kaby Lake supporting 2400MHz ram and now that there is a beta bios whether that has instructions to run at the Kaby Lake specs.
Cheers Chrys
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Posted By: Ochi
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 9:22pm
In case anyone is still interested, version 2.10 of the BIOS has now been released as promised. It's working great so far for me with a Kaby Lake Pentium G4560.
What I find a bit strange is that on the C236 WSI's support page the BIOS update is described as "Support Kabylake (E3-1200v6) CPU" and the CPU support list has not been updated yet at all. Obviously, it now supports more than only the mentioned Kaby Lake Xeon.
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Posted By: Lynxphp
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 11:34pm
" rel="nofollow - Hi
I also have a c236 WSI with a G4560 running the BIOS 2.10 since yesterday. I have ECC RAM, but when going
into the BIOS, I saw that my ram is run in non-ECC mode (in the BIOS under
Advanced -> Memory -> ECC Feature: Disabled), eventhough it is ECC ram (Kingston
ECC 8GB ValueRam KVR21E15D8/8)
and should be supported by the motherboard (and the option in BIOS ECC Support
is Enabled).
Any idea?
Do you have ECC ram? Does it run in ECC mode?
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Posted By: Ochi
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 11:58pm
" rel="nofollow - Hello Lynxphp,
I have similar RAM modules but not exactly the same model, Kingston ValueRAM KVR21E15D8K2/16I. On the start page of the BIOS as well as under "Advanced -> Memory Configuration -> ECC Feature" it tells me that ECC is supported and enabled. I suppose you also don't have the option to set "Advanced -> Memory Configuration -> ECC Support" (not "ECC Feature") to Enabled?
EDIT: Erm sorry, you already said that ECC support is enabled, my fault. Hm, maybe you should ask ASRock Rack support directly regarding this matter. I can only say that ECC works for me with similar modules.
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Posted By: Lynxphp
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 12:08am
Hi Ochi, thanks for your quick reply.
I already contacted asrock support, but having never received any answer from them in the past, i thought i'd try my luck in the forums as well. I hope they'll get back to me this time.
I found a german site
which posted a picture of exactly the ram i have, on the same motherboard,
which runs in ECC mode:
http://www.technikaffe.de/anleitung-364-asrock_rack_c236_wsi_im_test__8x_sata_und_ecc_fuer_skylake" rel="nofollow - http://www.technikaffe.de/anleitung-364-asrock_rack_c236_wsi_im_test__8x_sata_und_ecc_fuer_skylake I'm pretty confused as to why my stick won't be run in ECC.
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Posted By: Carouser2
Date Posted: 09 May 2017 at 6:56pm
As a concerned citizen, I have just become even more concerned.
I purchased the Skylake g4400, updated the bios and installed the E3 1245v6 Kaby Lake. Installed Win 10 Pro and updated all drivers. Everything was ticking along nicely. I bought a WD Black 4tb drive for archive storage for my SSD (1x Operating system and 2 x EVO 850 500g with a view to RAID1)
There were a few abnormalities that I noticed. The WD hard drive was constantly making thumping noises during idle. I never did any stress tests, but the thumping noises was loud enough to become annoying. A friend checked the disc status report which did not show any issues at all. Second observation was artefacts on the monitor when using the display port. Using HDMI it was clean.
I was running my computer connecting one NIC to a network and the other to my laptop. I was using it as a server for a database I have written and everything was fast and furiously awesome. After only 4 days of use for only 5-6 hours a day, it died. The only sign of life is the green light on the MB. The on switch was not doing anything. I waited 5 minutes and it did reboot for only a few seconds. then nothing for the next few days later.
Changed the CPU back to the g4400 and still no post. Tested the PSU (EVG 650 G3) by using the shorting attachment on the MB connection. THe fans came on and the WD drive was thumping occasionally still. Unplugged all drives and still nothing. Will post this in a new thread to see if anyone might have any ideas.
As for the RAM, it was the Kingston value RAM 2133 Mhz ecc udimm.
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Posted By: mafrosis
Date Posted: 24 May 2017 at 7:33pm
" rel="nofollow - @lynxphp did you ever get anywhere with this? I built basically the same setup (nice work on pcpartpicker btw) - and my BIOS shows "ECC feature: disabled" too.
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Posted By: Lynxphp
Date Posted: 28 May 2017 at 6:14pm
" rel="nofollow - @Carouser2 sorry to hear your story. Hope you could find some knowledgeable folks to help you out.
@mafrosis Thank you! What RAM do you have? Exactly the same one as i do? If you ever get to it, i would be interested in seeing your build on pcpartpicker! I never got a reply from asrock Europe. So I tried asrock US (with a vpn, eventhough i'm not sure that was necessary) and got a response within hours... I explained them my problem, they tried to replicate it, but didn't have the same RAM. What they already confirmed is that they could get ECC to work on the G4560. The guy i was i contact with relayed my problem to "HQ", whereever that is. It's been two almost two weeks now, and i've asked the guy i am in contact with about news. On tuesday, he said he asked HQ and would contact me as soon as he had news. I haven't heard from him yet.
I can only encourage you to contact asrock support (US support, that is)! Please do! The more we are, the more seriously they will take the problem.
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 28 May 2017 at 7:53pm
Issues like these can be very tricky to pin down, often even trickier to reproduce. All I can tell you guys is to hang in there. Follow up with Tech Support now and then and see if they have made any progress.
When dealing with compatibility issues with a particular piece of hardware it can be very challenging to replicate a user's issue. RAM in particular can be almost impossible when you consider that the same RAM kit (identical model number) rolled off the production line just months apart can have different memory chips on it, Hynix/Samsung for example. The criteria for that model will be capacity, timings, frequency and voltage so the memory manufacturer is free to use whatever memory chips meet the requirements. Issues like this may occur on one, lets say a Samsung based kit, but not on the other because of this.
I know this doesn't help with your issues, I wish I could help more but sadly this is not something I can assist with as it likely requires Tech Support to make some BIOS level tweaks.
Good luck and please let us know how it works out for you.
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Posted By: Lynxphp
Date Posted: 28 May 2017 at 10:00pm
" rel="nofollow - Thanks for the precisions Xaltar, it helps understanding the problem.
About that: I can now buy on sale a 16Gb (KVR21E15D8/16) stick of the "same" RAM i have an 8Gb (KVR21E15D8/8) stick of. Based on what you are saying, is there a chance that the 16Gb stick will work in ECC mode, even if the 8Gb doesn't? Worse case scenario, i could return it for a small fee..
Here's a link to kingston's compatibility list: https://www.kingston.com/us/memory/search?devicetype=7&mfr=ASR&line=Motherboard&model=93677 Both the 8Gb and 16Gb are listed as compatible.
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 28 May 2017 at 11:09pm
I'm afraid the only way to know is to try. Given the 8gb didn't work there is a good chance the 16 won't either. If it's a good deal I would give it a shot, especially if you need the extra capacity.
The compatibility list only means that the RAM will "work" with the board, it doesn't necessarily mean that ECC will. I wish all these lists and details were made clearer and easier to make sense of.
If you do decide to pull the trigger on the RAM, let us know how it turns out
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Posted By: Lynxphp
Date Posted: 31 May 2017 at 4:23am
" rel="nofollow - Thank you for the insights Xaltar. I wasn't aware about the compatibility list not guaranteeing that ECC mode would work.
So... I got the 16 gb stick today. I just tried it. The system posted... I got into the BIOS, and.... no ECC!!!! :( Really frustrating, as to swap the ram i have to remove my drive bays, remove the CPU cooler, swap the ram, and put everything back! I am returning the stick. I'll mail asrock support and tell them i've tried with another stick which doesn't work in ECC mode.
@mafrosis Did you contact asrock regarding the issue?
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Posted By: Carouser2
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2017 at 12:46pm
Update: I spent time with AsRock Tech Support diagnosing my issues and we came to the conclusion that the motherboard is toast. He was happy to RMA the mb except AsRock are not able to post to Australia. I live-chatted with Amazon explaining my plight and they were happy to send a replacement mb and all paperwork to return the old mb.
My new c236 wsi arrived from Amazon this week and I assembled everything as before. Used the g4400 cpu to flash the bios with version P2.10. All is working. I connected the hard drives and booted into Windows 10. I swapped the g4400 for the e3-1245v6 (Kaby Lake) cpu and all is humming along. It is 4 days now and no issues. I conducted a few stress tests using prime 95 which exposed deficiencies in the stock cooler and so added the Coolermaster Hyper 212x. ( had to remove the mb again to install back plate grrrr!!)
My ECC ram is enabled and working with the XEON., but not with the g4400 cpu where the ram works, but not the ECC feature.
I had a brand new WD 4TB Black HDD that was not sounding quite right and took it to get checked out at the computer shop. The tech replaced it immediately saying it seemed like the platters were out of alignment or something. Whether this may have been the cause I do not know. So far everything is stable and I am checking everything I can to find if there was something else that may have caused the initial problem.
Just one last interesting thing that happened. I was wanting to check the contents on an old hard drive and plugged it in the mb using SATA 7 input as it is easily accessible compared to the others. Win 10 would not display this HDD even though the BIOS clearly displayed this as a storage device with 4 other drives. Google led me down various paths all not being fruitful. After may days, and hours thinking about this, I plugged the sata cable into the next available port in the order sequence on the motherboard and it immediately worked. I thought sata ports were just like usb ports. Anyhow, in case someone has this issue.
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Posted By: rabudde
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 5:42pm
" rel="nofollow - Hello,
as I thought about replacing a Supermicro X10SDV with a C236 WSI, can you please tell me:
- Are all Kaby Lake CPU supported now? (I've G4600T in mind) - Do 19200E/2400MHz RAM modules run at native speed now or are they throttled in speed? - As Xeon CPUs (which will run on this board) do support RDIMMs, I want to know if C236 WSI does support RDIMM also?
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Posted By: Pingumann
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2017 at 10:07am
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@Carouser2 ..
Carouser2 wrote:
Update:
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Used the g4400 cpu to flash the bios with version P2.10. All is
working. I connected the hard drives and booted into
Windows 10. I swapped the g4400 for the e3-1245v6 (Kaby Lake)
cpu and all is humming along.
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Your
description of flashing with the G4400 CPU and then swapping it for a
E3-1245V6 made me think.
I am using the Intel i7-6700
3.4GHz CPU on two C236 WSI's. I noticed that the boards had two
different bios versions. I had problems with the HMDI Video output on
the newer board, and the older V1.0.0 had less setup points than the
newer V1.0.1 bios. Going back to the AsRock website, I noticed that
there was a new Bios v 2.10. I flashed the first PC with the V2.10
bios, and it rebooted by itself. Now it would not accept my bios
password. I then reset the PC and now nothing happens. Totally
dead.
Moral of the story; do not flash the V2.10 if you
use the Intel i7-6700 CPU! I have to find another CPU just to boot
and repair the bios by flashing the older version back.
I
suppose an Intel Celeron Processor G3900 (2,80 GHz, 2 MB Intel
Smart-Cache) will also work for flashing it and swap the i7-6700 back
in. Luckily costs only 33 Euro.
I have noticed that
in the CPU's listed by ASRock are all Skylake, except the i5-7500
that is the only Kaby Lake, and even your flashing CPU (G4400) is a
Skylake according to the CPU list at Asrock?s CPU Support List
(http://asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=C236%20WSI#CPU).
Maybe I need a Kaby
Lake because the bios is already flashed for the Kaby Lake.
I found a cheap
"Intel BX80677G3930 CPU - Intel Celeron G3930". As far as I
can see they both use the LGA1151 Socket.
What I do not
understand is that including support for Kaby Lake makes the bios
with V2.10 unusable for Skylake. I see no warning from Asrock that
version 2.10 will make a board with the i7 and probably all Skylake
CPU's unusable.
BTW, is there a
reset on the board like the old days when the bios went astray? I
found nothing in the manuals.
--- Desperate
Pingumann ---
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--- UPDATE 2017.08.09 ---
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After various
exclusions of attached disks and network cables as well as USB
cables, the board booted into bios after the bios was reset.
Resetting is on the
MoBo Page6-Pin6 in the manual -- Power cord must be removed, the
battery must be removed, power switch pressed for 15-20 seconds to
discharge any capacitors on the MoBo, then short out the 5 mm half
moons of Pin6.
Then an older V1.0.0
was then flashed in the bios menu Advanced and Instant Flash option
ftom a USB stick.
Since this flash
botch-up in the first attempt, and the recovery to a previous V1.0.0,
I could not leave the issue there. I decided to take the chance to
flash the V2.1.0 with a Skylake that was there before. It worked, but
it needs time and a few boot-ups before it is stable and running.
So, V2.1.0 also
works with Skylake.
-- Alleviated
Pingumann --
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Posted By: leo_poldX
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 2:07pm
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rabudde wrote:
- Are all Kaby Lake CPU supported now? (I've G4600T in mind)
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look at the customer photo here, he is using a G4620! https://www.amazon.de/review/R1KBWA1IPXDS4S/%3cASIN=B01B96248O&nodeID=340843031" rel="nofollow - https://www.amazon.de/review/R1KBWA1IPXDS4S/?ASIN=B01B96248O&nodeID=340843031
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