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Topic: NVMe on X99M extreme4
Posted By: sparx
Subject: NVMe on X99M extreme4
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 12:05am
So, I bought the MSI Turbo U.2 Host card and placed in my Asrock X99M Extreme4.
Together with cable that converts SFF-8642 to SFF-8639, but nothing happens. 

In BIOS the NVMe disk isnt found. And also, Windows can't locate it.
BIOS version 1.9

Is this related to the MSI adapter board, or the BIOS perhaps?


/M



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Posted By: odiebugs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:09am
Did you just plug in the card and not connect the drive,  you need to connect the card to something so it can see the drive not just the host card. 




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Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:11am
Yeah, sorry for not making that clear. Im using an Amphenol cable and an Intel DC-P3500 disk. No show. Same story for the Supermicro AOC-SLG3-2E4R board. 


Posted By: odiebugs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:15am
But isn't  the DC-P3500 a PCI-e card and the adapter is for a  8639 and only runs a U2.

MSI said if you don't buy the  Intel 750 NVM SSD, they will put you in jail.  LOL Just kidding.






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Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:16am
Intel DC-P3x00 series are both HHHL and 2.5" drives. 


Posted By: odiebugs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:19am
Form factor doesn't matter it's all about interface.

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Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:21am
Yes? And the bios doesnt find the disk. Same as windows.


Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:22am
Maybe you are confused about the naming? U.2 Is SFF-8639 wich is a PCIe interface. Its all the same thing. 


Posted By: odiebugs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:24am
You'll need to wait for a MOD.

The card say's for intel 750, say's nothing about any drive. I don't know if it reads, or need the controller of the 750.  

Sorry I couldn't help more.

Did you set the M2 in the BIOS from AUTO to enabled. Also make sure nothing is plugged into the
 S_Sata3_2 or S_Sata3_3.   


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Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:27am
Yeah I think the problem is that there is a retimer/reclocking on the MSI U.2 adapter board. I guess BIOS doesnt see thru it or something. The ASUS Hyper Kit only has straight signals. I actually bought the MSI adapter just because I hoped it would make the signal integrity better. But if it completely makes it fail, Im a bit screwed. Heh. This is the problem with new stuff. Its untested. :)


Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:28am
Hmm.. I didnt see any setting for M2 yet. I was running a normal Sata M.2 disk from it before, so the connector itself should be enabled. But perhaps the PCIe is not. Where is that setting? Ive been looking around everywhere... or so i thought. 


Posted By: odiebugs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:39am
Originally posted by sparx sparx wrote:

Maybe you are confused about the naming? U.2 Is SFF-8639 wich is a PCIe interface. Its all the same thing. 

Thanks, I see now it was renamed to U.2.  Sata e, U2, how about we make 50 more interfaces so they can make 50 more drives to sell and make more money by changing them each year when thunderbolt  is out and is better.  


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Posted By: odiebugs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:40am
Originally posted by sparx sparx wrote:

Hmm.. I didnt see any setting for M2 yet. I was running a normal Sata M.2 disk from it before, so the connector itself should be enabled. But perhaps the PCIe is not. Where is that setting? Ive been looking around everywhere... or so i thought. 

I don't know, LMAO.

Your manual doesn't have it, but it should be under storage, and under your Sata, RAID, settings. 




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Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:41am
Hehe. But U.2 is the future. Or.. right now it is. Drives are almost saturating the 32GB/s of interface maximum. Crazy.


Posted By: odiebugs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:46am
Originally posted by sparx sparx wrote:

Hehe. But U.2 is the future. Or.. right now it is. Drives are almost saturating the 32GB/s of interface maximum. Crazy.

So what is the fastest NVME drive you can show me, thanks, want to check it out.

Also there might be a setting under Advanced, storage,  and under the Sata setting.

Should be M2_1, and have Auto or Force M2 or Force S Sata.  

But your manual say's nothing, I'm going by my Z97 with M2. 

So don't hate me if I'm wrong. 


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Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:50am
Not sure exactly what is fastest right now. But either Intel DC-P3700 1.2TB or above. 
Samsung SM1715 in the same size. 
Or Microns latest NVMe, dont remember the name now. 


Posted By: odiebugs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:51am
I think I'm in a cave.

Had no clue that these new drives could work the pcie 3.0 16x and use the 30g. 

Thanks Sparx, will look into them. 


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Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 3:54am
Erhh.. the Intel disk doesnt excist in that size btw. heh. but any ways, normally the bigger the faster. Check out the datasheet for sweetpoint price/speed. Its pretty expencive MBs :) 
Some drives are getting pumped in size now also. So not all devices are faster the bigger they are. Best to read the specs before. 


Posted By: odiebugs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 4:01am
I looked at the P3700, looks like a SSD,  but say's pcie interface. 

Do you need a card like you have or a cable to pcie,  never saw this ?  

900.00,  I don't know if that's worth it.


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Posted By: sparx
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 2:37pm
Well. As i said before. There are two versions. One add in card, and one 2.5" disk with the very special connector. So i would go for the add in card if your are buying new. I didnt get the 2.5" to work yet. The cables are rare and the M.2 adapter doesnt work. 
Look at the Intel 750. Thats a consumer version of the same disk. Still pretty quick.



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