1700X - X370 Gaming Pro - can't succeed in OC
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Topic: 1700X - X370 Gaming Pro - can't succeed in OC
Posted By: dinin70
Subject: 1700X - X370 Gaming Pro - can't succeed in OC
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 6:21pm
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Dear AsRock Community, I'm coming to you since I see all over the place people and reviewers OCing their R7 CPU to 3.9ghz, 4.0ghz, while I can't succeed in having anything decent (even 3.7ghz fails me) First of all, my Rig: - R7 1700X - AsRock X370 Gaming Pro (bios 1.50) - RAM: 2x8GB Corsair 3000mhz XMP (XMP profile enables, 2933mhz) - R9 Fury - PSU: Corsair RM1000x - W10 64b When testing stability, I run 1 hours OCCT, Cinebench 15 multi and single thread. About my BIOS tweakings, let's start from UEFI default: OC Tweaker, set: - CPU Frequency, manual from 3700 to 3900 - RAM XMP enabled (all figures on Auto respect the RAM manufacturer specification) except that RAM frequency is at 2933mhz, but that is normal. - Voltage Mode: Stable Mode - CPU vCore: Fixed @ 1.35v (I don't want to exceed that level) - CPU LLC: tried from Auto to any LLC down to 3 - SOC voltage: tried Auto or 1.1 - SOC LLC: tried from Auto to any LLC down to 5 Windows boots under any of those scenarios. Cinebench 15 runs under any of those scenarios. Temps are fine under any of those scenarios (max CPU 50C from Mobo Sensor, 82C from CPU sensor)
OCCT doesn't pass 1 hour at 3800mhz and 3900mhz. vCore is very stable (it just oscillate 1 notch) but I get a black screen and sound off after a while. OCCT 3700mhz 1 hours passes. Everything is fine @ 3700mhz, except that sometimes when booting the computer, it kind of bootloop once or twice before reaching the BIOS, and then everything is stable once Windows is loaded. When @ stock frequency, nothing is changed in the BIOS except RAM under XMP, nothing weird happens... I kinda find hard to believe I can't OC stable even to 3700mhz with 1.35v (should even be an overshoot of voltage for that frequency)... Can you help me figuring out: - what am I doing wrong? - if there is something else I need to do? - if I'm having a faulty hardware? Thank you a lot for your help. |
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Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 7:41pm
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Disable XMP. Overclock with it disabled and see what that gets you. Once you have an OC dialed in then manually set your RAM timings and speed. ------------- 
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Posted By: dinin70
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 9:29pm
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Hi Xaltar, Thank you. I'll try this at home and keep you updated asap. On Reddit a guy told me he had the same issues and sent back the MoBo and CPU, which solved his issue. Hope it's not the case for me :( |
Posted By: potyec
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 9:42pm
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Cool `n Quiet is off ?
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Posted By: dinin70
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 10:18pm
| CnQ is enabled, tried also with C6 and C-State enabled or disabled, it doesn't change anything |
Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 10:38pm
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" rel="nofollow - Let us know how it goes with XMP off. What BIOS version are you running? A caution regarding BIOS, I would avoid updating without doing your research first. Some updates have caused more issues than they solve and in some more extreme cases even bricked boards so exercise extreme caution when deciding on an update. Sadly I don't have a ryzen system of my own to test with so I can't offer up any recommendations regarding settings. The best I can do is reiterate what I have seen others post and the results of my own research. -------------
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Posted By: dinin70
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 10:58pm
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Hi Xaltar, I'm running 1.50 in order to have CPU Frequency Multiplier. And no worries, any help of more experienced people than me is appreciated :) I just hope I don't have faulty hardware... Passed the 15 days to send them back... |
Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 11:25pm
How much experience can anyone have with Ryzen yet when it comes to over clocking? Is it even a month old from the CPU release day? Plus AMD is constantly providing updates for use with a board's UEFI/BIOS, to fix memory compatibility, and processor bugs like the FMA3 instruction problem. Plus so far, Ryzen is not that great for over clocking. Ryzen is FAR from being a mature system at this point. If you see any UEFI updates for your board, use them BUT as Xaltar said, until your board has the Instant Flash UEFI update feature available, be SO careful with any other update method. Also, do you know what the best way to OC a Ryzen processor is? The AMD Ryzen Master Utility (RMU) software that runs in Windows. Ignore using it at your own loss. Also, reading the User Guide available on the same page is essential: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master" rel="nofollow - https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master Hint: Many reviewers used this software to OC Ryzen processors in their review. ------------- http://valid.x86.fr/48rujh" rel="nofollow"> 
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dinin70 wrote:Posted By: dinin70
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 1:52am
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Parsec, thank you. But I'll skip that advise: 1. All reviewers I saw are using Bios. 2. Ryzen Master is extremely buggy and makes my computer go bootloop crazy. |
Posted By: mysticjbyrd
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 2:44am
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I would never use software to OC my CPU. I don't think it's even been updated in a month. I heard it uses absurd amounts of Load line calibration. ------------- Is "God" able, but not willing to stop evil? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God??? ??Epicurus |
Posted By: dinin70
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 3:06am
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" rel="nofollow - Anyway, Nothing to do, even with XMP disabled at auto settings for the RAM, 3.8ghz @ 1.37v the system crashes after 20m OCCT... 3.9ghz crashes almost instantly (5 minutes)I checked no pin is bent, re-socketed the PSU MoBo and CPU cables. All voltages are very stable (vCore, +12V, +5V etc). Am I right assuming there is something wrong with the Hardware? The PSU is a Corsair RM1000x that was powering a 8350 and CF Fury --> with a load way higher than current R7 1700 + single Fury.
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Posted By: dinin70
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2017 at 3:58pm
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I believe I succeeded in having a stable 3.9ghz with: - ram on auto (2133) - 1.37v - LLC 2 - LLC SOC 2 - C State disabled - C6 disabled aaaaaaand - SOC Voltage 1.2 Can't succeed in having a stable RAM above stock 2133mhz |
Posted By: justqw
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2017 at 7:17pm
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Hi. Same problem. Even 3800 with 1.4V didnt work (stock ram at 2133) Mobo: Gaming K4 CPU: Ryzen 1700 |
Posted By: dinin70
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2017 at 10:30pm
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Hello mate, So, long story.
I had a Gaming K4 on the hand so I decided to socket the 1700X in the Gaming K4. I install Windows, install some drivers. Then not having the Instant Flash program on the MoBo I decided to go to sleep. Following day the MoBo was dead... I didn't even touch the BIOS. Sent the AsRock Gaming K4 to RMA. AsRock sent me another one. I start then to have suspicions on the CPU. I decided to buy a r5 1600 to make further tests. And here everything changes. I just dump on the K4 the Sapphire Power Boost and set my other RAM stick to XMP1 (2400 MHz). Everything smooth. So I put the 1600 in the Professional Gaming. Slapped 3800mhz, 1.37v. XMP1 (2933mhz), with no additional tweakings. Everything works completely fine. At that stage I had enough evidence to send the CPU back to RMA. AMD sent me another 1700X. Things are better. For the moment I have simply Sapphire Boost enabled and XMP1 (2933) enabled. It functions very well (to know, OCCT would have instacrashed with the first CPU). I will see when I will have more time if I can push further, but had some troubles with 3800 on the CPU and 2933 on the RAM, but I didn't dig too much. Maybe in one year I'll give another shot, but this story took a lot of time. So I'm not sure if the MoBo isn't providing enough juice to the CPU, or if the 1700X lineup a problem... But I'm fine at 3600+2933, Multithread capacity is super strong and gaming wise it doesn't make a difference. I'm not pushing the CPU too much, everything is at advertised. However I'm not sure I'd buy again such an expensive Motherboard. The Gaming K4 is LARGELY enough and is already a high end mobo. |
Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2017 at 10:34pm
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I was doing some reading on OCNET and I noticed a few people that weren't able to achieve 3200MHz sent their CPUs in for exchange and with the CPUs they received in return they were able to load 3200 without issue. |
Posted By: Teckie
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:47am
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This is scary. Can you please link the article ? Thanks
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Posted By: nangu
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 5:02am
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" rel="nofollow - I've read similar things on other sites. It does seem Ryzen IMC suffers from "silicon lottery" by itself ?? |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 5:12am
Meh, I'd have to see some comparative binning and data the CPU holds before going that far. AMD is getting 99% from the wafers with Ryzen which tells me they bin them properly. |
Posted By: Drain_Bamaged
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:10pm
I should think so, unless they want to get laughed off the internet.
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