X370 Taichi BIOS 2.00
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Topic: X370 Taichi BIOS 2.00
Posted By: Nocturnal
Subject: X370 Taichi BIOS 2.00
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 2:46am
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I'be bought Taichi 6.04 and right away install fresh BIOS 2.00. So I'm sure patch notes for this version don't contain any mention about AGESA. But today i've revisited Asrock site to checj whether new version of BIOS available. And I discovered that BIOS patch notices changed. Now it contain string: 1.Update AGESA to 1.0.0.4a But if i check installed BIOS with AIDA64 I see that it have only 1.0.0.3 version. So it's mistake in description or support stuff have to replace old file on site.  |
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 6:28am
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just checked mine mine is identical to yours shows as 1003 im not that bothered to be honest its stable and in about a months time we get a fully upgraded bios with much more attention to ram (1005) its not worth the risk to flash a basically same or similar bios in my opinion just to test if its got the extra 6ns latency that 1004 has (we may even already have it ,and its reported wrong in aida) |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 4:37pm
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This has/is discussed in another Thread. I am following up with ASRock BIOS Engineers and will post in that thread when they reply back. |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 5:46pm
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" rel="nofollow - please could you refer what topic do you speak about? |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 5:49pm
no it's not so, because this bios 2.00 was uploaded on site 6.04. And on that moment patch notes didn't contain any info about new AGESA. It was changed (description) more time later |
datonyb wrote:Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 11:59pm
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it did however say at that time agesa (without a version number) and support ryzen 5 i did carefully read the description when i downloaded it i do agree at that time it did not mention agesa 1004 ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250]  [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 12:00am
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wardog can you link the OTHER thread please ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Prodif
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 2:56pm
Welcome to engineers )  ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi (bios v2.36) / Ryzen-1800X / Crucial CT16G4DFD824A x2 / GPU: AMD R9 NANO / SSD NVMe Samsung 960 PRO MZ-V6P1T0BW (M.2) / HDD SATA 3TB x6 / PSU: Corsair AX860i ps. RedDragon, by AG |
Posted By: Prodif
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 6:13pm
 Deception for children, downloads firmware of any friend of the vendor and compare the agesa version. ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi (bios v2.36) / Ryzen-1800X / Crucial CT16G4DFD824A x2 / GPU: AMD R9 NANO / SSD NVMe Samsung 960 PRO MZ-V6P1T0BW (M.2) / HDD SATA 3TB x6 / PSU: Corsair AX860i ps. RedDragon, by AG |
Posted By: Prodif
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 6:33pm
ASUS prime b350+ bios for example version agesa: ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi (bios v2.36) / Ryzen-1800X / Crucial CT16G4DFD824A x2 / GPU: AMD R9 NANO / SSD NVMe Samsung 960 PRO MZ-V6P1T0BW (M.2) / HDD SATA 3TB x6 / PSU: Corsair AX860i ps. RedDragon, by AG |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:41pm
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so its either incorrect label on bios download page and it should not read 1004 or it is indeed agesa 1004 but the bios signature hasnt been changed to correctly state its 1004 ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 12:25am
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It's a top tier mobo, but still doesn't have update for new AGESA. And still contain error in description of last BIOS. People said me not buy Asrock production, but I hoped that it's only rumors. |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 12:26am
it's not so because memory latency is not fixed as on other motherboards |
Posted By: lowdog
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 9:38am
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Pretty sure as well bios 2.0 is AGESA 1.0.0.3 and the code string ends in xxxx111C which is the same code MSI was using in their beta 1.4x bios that they pulled because it could potentialy damage boards. A mod or ASRock rep needs to investigate this and confirm one way or another because ASRock should be using AGESA 1.0.0.4a or 1.0.0.4b code now which is what all other vendors are using and NOT still be using code 1.0.0.3 which has potentialy hardware bricking bugs. |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 3:04am
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Support ignore us. We bought sup-top board, but there is no support. |
Posted By: mysticjbyrd
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 3:08am
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That would explain why I didn't see any latency improvements that others were talking about. ------------- Is "God" able, but not willing to stop evil? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God??? ??Epicurus |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 2:43am
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We need new BIOS with new AGESA and support CR2, as many another vendors MB already have it |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 6:04am
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it would appear they answered in another thread unrelated to the agesa question and that answer seems to be it is 1004 but is incorrectly reported as 1003 ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 6:01pm
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I've written to support and today they answered me. Briefly: "We forgot to update string in BIOS file that identifying AGESA version. Don't look at this." But to be honest I don't believe. I think support don't have enough time to all this work with bioses, agesa, memory compatibility issues etc. Marketing considerations don't allow to say client truth. But such situation is bad, it decline users loyalty. |
Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 7:16pm
That is the gods honest truth. It took me three days of major Time Zone differences to make that point to them. It's good to read they answered you correctly. MSI is now having this same issue over on their forums. One User even stated he had read that the file(s) had actually come from AMD with the incorrect versioning stated with in. Regardless, I have extracted the microcode and compared it side by side to a KNOWN 1.0.0.4b and this I state above is correct concerning versioning. So let's move along concerning this and cease with the conspiracy theories. It doesn't make anyone appear smart just spouting off rumors, whining, and uttering conjecture. |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 12:15am
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" rel="nofollow - nocturnal it would seem that in fact gigabyte are ALSO having 1004 reported in aida as 1003 but in fact it is 1004 "quote" We find in the latest BIOS dated new versions for these three components:
AMD confirmed to us that microcode 800111C brings well the fix for the bug of the FMA3. The AGESA 1.0.0.4a (which you will also find under the notation 1.0.0.3a in some manufacturers like Gigabyte) brings on its side the improvement of latency. We do not know what the EMS update does, it does not seem to correct existing bugs like the fact that we sometimes find ourselves with voltage readings (more precisely VID) blocked at 1.55V by example. source : https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=fr&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.hardware.fr/articles/959-5/nouvel-agesa-diminuer-latence-ram.html&usg=ALkJrhh2jnBon0Nrtnxt8dw7b3IH_XowMA sorry long url as its also translated from french to english ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 12:20am
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Thank you. I understand, so lets now wait for Command Rate = 2 setting in new BIOS. |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 12:28am
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please follow the link it is also mentioning DRAM Gear Down Mode i am just about to look in bios for this (apperently it may enable to select or let the ram auto select 2T) i wont know until i have a look ,try and find the setting , and test its effect the linked article says its enabled in early bios but may not be in later THIS may explain why some people have had slower ram in say version2 bios than when they used version 1.9X ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 12:49am
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update i cant seem to find any options on the taichi bios version 2 for dram gear down mode  ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 3:19pm
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" rel="nofollow - There is no such option. So we need 2 major options: 1. dram gear down mode - as I understand its choosing CR2? am I right? 2. ProcODT option - Asus already has it. it allow use dual rank memory at higher freqs |
Posted By: ASRock_TSD
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2017 at 5:54pm
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" rel="nofollow - Dear Nocturnal, Greetings, this is ASRock TSD. The BIOS structure of BIOS P2.00 is exactly v1.0.0.4a, and it?™s also confirmed by AMD. Because the 3rd party tool read the AGESA code version from the specific strings and the strings hasn?™t been modified as v1.0.0.4a, the 3rd party tool just show the AGEDA code as the old version ?œv1.0.0.3?? In the next BIOS, we would modify the strings in BIOS and make sure it?™s matched with the exact AGESA code version in BIOS. Thanks! All the best, ASRock TSD |
Posted By: lowdog
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2017 at 6:01pm
That option IS INDEED in the bios, you just need to look and find it. 
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Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2017 at 6:15pm
Please could you tell us where is it? |
Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2017 at 8:06pm
agreed this is a forum for education not riddles ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: lowdog
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 6:53am
Excuse me, my mistake the option in bios I was thinking of was Bank Group Swap and got it mixed up with Dram Gear Down, so I got it wrong. 
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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 7:00am
no worries mate i did think i had a damn good look for it ,but must have missed it ------------- [url=https://valid.x86.fr/jpg250] [/url]3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold |
Posted By: Prodif
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 3:21pm
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" rel="nofollow - When the bios updating is planned on
AGESA 1.0.0.6 ? https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/am4_motherboards_will_soon_be_receiving_a_new_agesa_microcode_update/1 ------------- ASRock x370 Taichi (bios v2.36) / Ryzen-1800X / Crucial CT16G4DFD824A x2 / GPU: AMD R9 NANO / SSD NVMe Samsung 960 PRO MZ-V6P1T0BW (M.2) / HDD SATA 3TB x6 / PSU: Corsair AX860i ps. RedDragon, by AG |