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Topic: x370 pro gaming memory issue
Posted By: bapi23
Subject: x370 pro gaming memory issue
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 2:08am
Recently I've bought New Pc:
Ryzen 1800x Asrock x370 Professional gaming motherboard Samsung 960 pro ssd gtx 1080 and g.skill ripjaws v ddr4 2x16gb 3200mhz cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk plugged in A2 and B2 ram slots
 
The problem is that it doesn't boot up when Im changing ram freq to greater than 2133. I have the newest mobo bios. Should I change my ram Or do something more - looks like changing profile to xfr also doesn't work:-(



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Posted By: Optik
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 2:15am
Look qvl list and buy ram, 16gb ram don't running

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Taichi X370
AMD R7 1700X
Arctic Liquid FreeZer 240
G.Skill Flare X 3200 cl 14@2933
PowerColer RX480
Phanteks EnTHoo Luxe
BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 11 550W


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 2:18am
the problem you have is two fold really
for starters 32 gb seems harder to achieve higher speeds than 16 gb (2x8gb) this is due to 16gb sticks all being double sided with the ic's (dual ranked)
and....
the 3200c16 ripjaws are the ryzen unfriendly hynix ics
the special ram designed for ryzen is by gskill called flarex this uses single sided layout of ics and uses samsung b dies which have the best chance of working as intended
things however should vastly improve in mid may time when the new heavily revised bios codes are released from amd to the boardmakers and thus the users

at present most ram that can hit 3200 will be no larger than 2 sticks of 8gb with single sided samsung b dies (as a rule)
i have seen some reports now of corsair (very few) and TEAM ram hitting 3200 (the team ram was all single sided b dies as well)
try searching on google for other people using your board and also try google a website called
rymem

hope this helps enlighten you a bit


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Posted By: lowdog
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 7:02am
I have both X370 Taichi and X370 Fatality Pro Gaming with bios 2.0. 1800X CPU @ 3925MHz with auto volts = 1.35 (default VID) LLC - 2 equals 1.33v load measured at socket with DMM. On both boards I can run Corsair vengeance LED 3000MHz - CMU64GX4M4C3000C15 with 2 x 16GB sticks @ 2933MHz 18-17-17-17-35 with 1.35v and SOC 1.0v LLC -3 no problem


Dual Rank Hynix chips as well   


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 9:27am
well if you had gskill you might be on 3200 at cl15  Tongue

but i thought we were trying to help the op not pee higher up a wall

p.s. on a serious note you should be able to drop your vcore down to 1.30 easily at least on the taichi
mine went easily there (also at llc 2)
p states
9c (3900)
8
27(1,306)


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Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 8:55pm
Originally posted by lowdog lowdog wrote:

I have both X370 Taichi and X370 Fatality Pro Gaming with bios 2.0. 1800X CPU @ 3925MHz with auto volts = 1.35 (default VID) LLC - 2 equals 1.33v load measured at socket with DMM. On both boards I can run Corsair vengeance LED 3000MHz - CMU64GX4M4C3000C15 with 2 x 16GB sticks @ 2933MHz 18-17-17-17-35 with 1.35v and SOC 1.0v LLC -3 no problem


Dual Rank Hynix chips as well   


So you mean you bought 64Gb and you have now 2 x 16 in both motherboards? Had you any problem with 2933 frequency? If no maybe I will also buy these rams...

BTW there is no 16GB (one stick) with 3200Mhz support listed in Asrock qvl ;/


Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

well if you had gskill you might be on 3200 at cl15  Tongue

but i thought we were trying to help the op not pee higher up a wall

p.s. on a serious note you should be able to drop your vcore down to 1.30 easily at least on the taichi
mine went easily there (also at llc 2)
p states
9c (3900)
8
27(1,306)

You mean that I should buy mem with cl 15? to achieve 3200Mhz?

What about these rams:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/GSkill/F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW/

cl is 14


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2017 at 11:38pm
at the moment
getting 3200 on 4 sticks not something you can hope for (maybe after the may bios updates)
the ram you have linked has a good chance on the am4 platform to be 'better' chance of higher speeds
IT IS NOT gareenteed
even some sticks of ram on the QVL are still not reaching fastest speeds
as i said in my first reply to you

the best chance to achieve 3200 would be with two sticks of single sided samsung b dies at less than 8gb each stick
but it is 'best chance' not 100%
just buying cl15 ram will not in any way make magic happen

we had a guy here the other week with the ram you linked .he could not get it at any good speed on the taichi so as i say nothing is 100%


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Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 12:02am
" rel="nofollow - I think that now the most important for me is if should I give back my cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk and there is only a little chance that it will work on highest frequencies with may bios update. Looks like lowdog was able to achieve 3000Mhz but with 18cl?!
18/3000 = 0,006

so looks like it's still better now than:

16/2133 = 0,0075 which is my current setup

(but I'm not sure my ram works with 16cl now - xfr profile doesn't work at all)

So what do you think - should I give back my rapijaws and buy ram with the lowest cl? like linked Trident Z or buy corsais vengance led checked by lowdog to run it 3000Mhz/18cl?

PS looks like I will have still 14 days to give back Trident Z ram if I would buy it:D


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 12:44am
to be honest i dont think the ripjaws is a good choice imho

i have tridentz but my board is a taichi and that seems to play well with that
if lowdog has your board i would probably myself be more inclined to copy another similar setup to try and hopefully get something more likely to work
but if your still trying for 32 gb then the suggested ram by lowdog would be better
as the gskill 16gb sticks would be double sided and i feel sure would not reach 3200 speeds yet


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Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 1:37am
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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

to be honest i dont think the ripjaws is a good choice imho

i have tridentz but my board is a taichi and that seems to play well with that
if lowdog has your board i would probably myself be more inclined to copy another similar setup to try and hopefully get something more likely to work
but if your still trying for 32 gb then the suggested ram by lowdog would be better
as the gskill 16gb sticks would be double sided and i feel sure would not reach 3200 speeds yet

Thanks for your opinion.
I think that there is no big difference between taichi and professional gaming board - I suppose that everything which is supported by taichi should be supported by professional gaming. Could you write down how exactly your setup looks - I mean ram freq, cl, 32 or 16 gb, 4 or 2 slots covered, exact ram model etc?


Posted By: cutterjohn
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 4:02am
Originally posted by bapi23 bapi23 wrote:

Recently I've bought New Pc:
Ryzen 1800x Asrock x370 Professional gaming motherboard Samsung 960 pro ssd gtx 1080 and g.skill ripjaws v ddr4 2x16gb 3200mhz cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk plugged in A2 and B2 ram slots
 
The problem is that it doesn't boot up when Im changing ram freq to greater than 2133. I have the newest mobo bios. Should I change my ram Or do something more - looks like changing profile to xfr also doesn't work:-(
I have the same kit.  I HAD it going stable @ 2667, IIRC @ 16-16-16-16-38 1.35V on BIOSes PRIOR to 2.00.  That was showing in every utility to be running at 1T CR.

WITH 2.00 I can get it to 2400, 1.35V with loose timings, IRC 18-18-18-18-53 (check the pro thread I think I put the values in one of my posts).  EVERY utility NOW shows it to be running at CR 2T!  ALL attempts to go above 2400 @ 1.35V now fail.

ALSO the QVL list has been EDITED. MANY parts that used to be on it are NOW GONE!

2.00 is utter crap IMNHO and should've been pulled other than I guess that they wanted the Ryzen 5 support and FMA3 workaround. o.w. IME it's a SERIOUS REGRESSION from ALL PRIOR betas/releases.  In addition to crap(pier) RAM support they also BORKED profile loading, so really I guess that 2.00 should've been put under betas...

My board came with 1.20 BIOS originally but I pretty much went to the first BIOS that the WTF they call their in BIOS flash method enabled/working as IIRC the only way to update at the time was with the nailbiting windows method.


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 7:52pm
heres what im using
gskill f4-3200c15d-16gtz (its a 2 x 8gb kit = 16gb)
it is normal tridentz but heres the deal the c14 and c15 3200 kits are all samsung b die
NOT ALL THE C16 KITS ARE ! be warned .......
my actual installation is then as follows
two sticks of ram at 8gb each inserted into slot a2 and b2

now with version bios 2
i can either just click xmp and it loads them ok
or manually set them
either way
i show
15
15
15
35
but when the system boots it always loads 16/15/15/35 into windows (even still says 15/15/15/35 in bios)
no real problem i cant wait for later bios
the other settings i change are
SOC voltage to 1.00 volts and i set it fixed voltage and LLC level 2
vcore is set to fixed volts and llc level 2 also
but i use the p states to tune the cpu and the settings for that are
9c which equals 3900mhz
8
27 which equals 1.306 volts vcore

bryan at tech city (search tech city on you tube) has a very nice simple and easy to understand overclocking guide for the p states cpu on his you tube channel its well worth a watch (is based on taichi bios but should be similar to yours)


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Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 01 May 2017 at 12:38am
Originally posted by cutterjohn cutterjohn wrote:

Originally posted by bapi23 bapi23 wrote:

Recently I've bought New Pc:
Ryzen 1800x Asrock x370 Professional gaming motherboard Samsung 960 pro ssd gtx 1080 and g.skill ripjaws v ddr4 2x16gb 3200mhz cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk plugged in A2 and B2 ram slots
 
The problem is that it doesn't boot up when Im changing ram freq to greater than 2133. I have the newest mobo bios. Should I change my ram Or do something more - looks like changing profile to xfr also doesn't work:-(
I have the same kit.  I HAD it going stable @ 2667, IIRC @ 16-16-16-16-38 1.35V on BIOSes PRIOR to 2.00.  That was showing in every utility to be running at 1T CR.

WITH 2.00 I can get it to 2400, 1.35V with loose timings, IRC 18-18-18-18-53 (check the pro thread I think I put the values in one of my posts).  EVERY utility NOW shows it to be running at CR 2T!  ALL attempts to go above 2400 @ 1.35V now fail.

ALSO the QVL list has been EDITED. MANY parts that used to be on it are NOW GONE!

2.00 is utter crap IMNHO and should've been pulled other than I guess that they wanted the Ryzen 5 support and FMA3 workaround. o.w. IME it's a SERIOUS REGRESSION from ALL PRIOR betas/releases.  In addition to crap(pier) RAM support they also BORKED profile loading, so really I guess that 2.00 should've been put under betas...

My board came with 1.20 BIOS originally but I pretty much went to the first BIOS that the WTF they call their in BIOS flash method enabled/working as IIRC the only way to update at the time was with the nailbiting windows method.

Unfortunately looks like cl18 + 2400 (0,0075) is almost the same as cl16+2133 so I don't know if there is eny noticable benefit from that:)



Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 01 May 2017 at 12:40am
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Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

at the moment
getting 3200 on 4 sticks not something you can hope for (maybe after the may bios updates)
the ram you have linked has a good chance on the am4 platform to be 'better' chance of higher speeds
IT IS NOT gareenteed
even some sticks of ram on the QVL are still not reaching fastest speeds
as i said in my first reply to you

the best chance to achieve 3200 would be with two sticks of single sided samsung b dies at less than 8gb each stick
but it is 'best chance' not 100%
just buying cl15 ram will not in any way make magic happen

we had a guy here the other week with the ram you linked .he could not get it at any good speed on the taichi so as i say nothing is 100%

could you give me a link to post from guy with exactly the same Trident Z 32GB issue? I'm curious what you mean by "any good speed":) looks like this ram support 14cl with 3200Mhz so it should be best option if may update will finally resolve all issues...


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 01 May 2017 at 1:16am
Originally posted by bapi23 bapi23 wrote:

" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

at the moment
getting 3200 on 4 sticks not something you can hope for (maybe after the may bios updates)
the ram you have linked has a good chance on the am4 platform to be 'better' chance of higher speeds
IT IS NOT gareenteed
even some sticks of ram on the QVL are still not reaching fastest speeds
as i said in my first reply to you

the best chance to achieve 3200 would be with two sticks of single sided samsung b dies at less than 8gb each stick
but it is 'best chance' not 100%
just buying cl15 ram will not in any way make magic happen

we had a guy here the other week with the ram you linked .he could not get it at any good speed on the taichi so as i say nothing is 100%

could you give me a link to post from guy with exactly the same Trident Z 32GB issue? I'm curious what you mean by "any good speed":) looks like this ram support 14cl with 3200Mhz so it should be best option if may update will finally resolve all issues...



no the guy who had the cl14 trident and couldnt get it to work fast was using the 16gb kit the same sticks as you linked but uses two not four sticks
the code or D or Q just denotes what kit they are put into dual or quad


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Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 01 May 2017 at 1:21am
i think the main problem at the moment is the amd agesa code not really liking 4 sticks of ram or double sided ram both these together are forcing slower speeds
combined must be even harder

we can only guess or assume as to how good the difference will be with the may 1005 agesa

i think/hope it might be reasonable to hope for max 3600 on single sided pair of sticks eg 16gb max
it would be nice to assume/hope for 3000 on 4 sticks or double sided eg 16gbx2 or 8gbx4 sticks 32bg max


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Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 01 May 2017 at 2:13am
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

Originally posted by bapi23 bapi23 wrote:

" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

at the moment
getting 3200 on 4 sticks not something you can hope for (maybe after the may bios updates)
the ram you have linked has a good chance on the am4 platform to be 'better' chance of higher speeds
IT IS NOT gareenteed
even some sticks of ram on the QVL are still not reaching fastest speeds
as i said in my first reply to you

the best chance to achieve 3200 would be with two sticks of single sided samsung b dies at less than 8gb each stick
but it is 'best chance' not 100%
just buying cl15 ram will not in any way make magic happen

we had a guy here the other week with the ram you linked .he could not get it at any good speed on the taichi so as i say nothing is 100%

could you give me a link to post from guy with exactly the same Trident Z 32GB issue? I'm curious what you mean by "any good speed":) looks like this ram support 14cl with 3200Mhz so it should be best option if may update will finally resolve all issues...



no the guy who had the cl14 trident and couldnt get it to work fast was using the 16gb kit the same sticks as you linked but uses two not four sticks
the code or D or Q just denotes what kit they are put into dual or quad

My bad!

I was thinking about 2x16gb:
https://octopart.com/f4-3200c14d-32gtz-g.skill-78439875

I've linked wrong ram;/

I though that it would be easier to achieve high speeds on dual channel (16x2gb) than 4x8gb


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 01 May 2017 at 2:30am
it should be (less strain on the cpu mem controller) but

it still is dealing with dual sided sticks in the above 16gb x 2 kit
at the moment the
proverbial 'rule of thumb' is
for best chance of 3200 speed
use single sided ram sticks (these can only be upto 8gb each)
with samsung b dies (once again these seem only to be 8gb sticks))
and only use two slots (a2 b2)

i think theres 32gb systems around for sure maybe 2666 and 2993 speeds but the timings seem to be high and the success low

were talking some 16gb x2 kits not even booting

i feel your asking for someone to come up with a magical suggestion for ram 32gb kit that just dosnt exist at the moment
its just early days for the brand new am4/ryzen platform very much like the early x99 intel systems with the same sort of ram choice/memory speed issues

to sum up
you can have hopefully have a good chance to get 3200 and some cl14 or cl15 timings but only on 16gb max ram

if you must use 32 gb then you will have to expect slower speeds and maybe higher latency

now on the upside its reasonable to expect a new agesa code bios to be around in two weeks maybe it will be a very good improvement


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Posted By: Kevin A
Date Posted: 02 May 2017 at 12:55am
There are some... interesting posts about Ryzen DDR4 from forum moderators Xaltar and Wardog. So stay tuned? They appear to be preparing to update the AMD Motherboard forum specifically targeting Ryzen.

I was able to get 64gb's of the 'dreaded' SK Hynix dual ranked ram working at 2400mhz@CAS 12.

So I'm happy enough, if any bios/microcode updates move it higher to it's 3200Mhz rated speed and then the 'infinity fabric' runs at 1600/mt's then I'll be even happier! With the 2 CCX's running faster and with less latency between them all things would run better, albeit some only slightly better.


My timings for the Gskill 64GB F4-3200C16Q-64GTZKW Kit are:
12-12-12-29 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)


Link:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx%3cItem=N82E16820232329" rel="nofollow - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232329

When I use the BCLK I can get the 4 sticks over 2500mhz but the system is unstable after using the BCLK generator. Hope that is re-evaluated in a BIOS/microcode update someday as well due to Asus and Gigabyte seem to get very high adjustments using it.


Posted By: markp
Date Posted: 02 May 2017 at 6:01am
Just a data point for everyone.
 
SLI Killer/AC Bios 2.10
G.Skill Tridentz 3600 Ram 8Gb (x2)
running the following timings 3200 14-14-14-14-34-1T
Booted right up with no drama.


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 02 May 2017 at 12:49pm
Originally posted by markp markp wrote:

Just a data point for everyone.
 
SLI Killer/AC Bios 2.10
G.Skill Tridentz 3600 Ram 8Gb (x2)
running the following timings 3200 14-14-14-14-34-1T
Booted right up with no drama.


What specific PN is the TridentZ kit? Users knowing that would be a useful data point WinkTongue


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 02 May 2017 at 12:50pm
" rel="nofollow - And congrats on the "booted right up".

Samsung B-die kit?


Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 04 May 2017 at 1:14am
Originally posted by cutterjohn cutterjohn wrote:

Originally posted by bapi23 bapi23 wrote:

Recently I've bought New Pc:
Ryzen 1800x Asrock x370 Professional gaming motherboard Samsung 960 pro ssd gtx 1080 and g.skill ripjaws v ddr4 2x16gb 3200mhz cl16 f4-3200C16d-32gvk plugged in A2 and B2 ram slots
 
The problem is that it doesn't boot up when Im changing ram freq to greater than 2133. I have the newest mobo bios. Should I change my ram Or do something more - looks like changing profile to xfr also doesn't work:-(
I have the same kit.  I HAD it going stable @ 2667, IIRC @ 16-16-16-16-38 1.35V on BIOSes PRIOR to 2.00.  That was showing in every utility to be running at 1T CR.

WITH 2.00 I can get it to 2400, 1.35V with loose timings, IRC 18-18-18-18-53 (check the pro thread I think I put the values in one of my posts).  EVERY utility NOW shows it to be running at CR 2T!  ALL attempts to go above 2400 @ 1.35V now fail.

ALSO the QVL list has been EDITED. MANY parts that used to be on it are NOW GONE!

2.00 is utter crap IMNHO and should've been pulled other than I guess that they wanted the Ryzen 5 support and FMA3 workaround. o.w. IME it's a SERIOUS REGRESSION from ALL PRIOR betas/releases.  In addition to crap(pier) RAM support they also BORKED profile loading, so really I guess that 2.00 should've been put under betas...

My board came with 1.20 BIOS originally but I pretty much went to the first BIOS that the WTF they call their in BIOS flash method enabled/working as IIRC the only way to update at the time was with the nailbiting windows method.

I was able to run 2400 with 15,15,15,15,38. 2666 doesn't start even with higher latencies.


Posted By: Kevin A
Date Posted: 04 May 2017 at 2:36am
I'm revisiting many of the sites I used as reference prior to my AsRock/Ryzen purchase and found a few to pass on regarding memory/performance information:

Here is the first:
http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-amd-am4-platform-best-memory-kit-amd-ryzen-cpus_192259" rel="nofollow - http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-amd-am4-platform-best-memory-kit-amd-ryzen-cpus_192259

And I routinely check the RyMem page... only to see Asus and Gigabyte dominate with memory compatibility and speeds. I hope the updates anticipated this month help address some of the issues with later updates over the months bringing even better results. Here is the RyMem page which is a very good reference:

http://rymem.vraith.com/basic/top10" rel="nofollow - http://rymem.vraith.com/basic/top10

As well as this very decent guide (at least it helped me get better timings on my DDR4):

http://www.overclockers.com/amd-ryzen-overclocking-guide/" rel="nofollow - http://www.overclockers.com/amd-ryzen-overclocking-guide/

...and of course with a new platform/architecture there will be a need for some patience and realistic expectations on my part, so on goes the adventure.



Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 04 May 2017 at 5:18pm
I've decided to stick to my 32gb ripjaws with 2400 Mhz - I think there is no such big benefit from going higher - I saw that 2400 vs 3200 it's about couple of percent. It's not reasonable for me to spend 200$ more for hope that Trident Z will work with higher freq someday. Anyway I will stay tuned to see if any bios update will improve possible frequencies.


Posted By: Kevin A
Date Posted: 04 May 2017 at 5:43pm
" rel="nofollow - A couple of percentage points? You must've referred to prior info on some other sites. There can be significant read/write changes with faster speeds as indicated on one of the sites I linked to. In just read/write is was up to 46.4 percent once 3200Mhz memory was achieved/used.

Also in a 'general' way when running at higher M/T's and lower latency between the CCX's all programs/games/OS's will perform better. That in itself is what I wish to achieve just by running at the rated speed of my DDR4(3200Mhz/1600Mt's) and then some adjustment to the BCLK(when fixed to perform similar to Asus and Gigabyte's currently do... and have done) I expect even a greater boost. True it could be only a couple of percentage points with some programs or it could be vastly higher in others.

I have an Intel I-7(Ivy Bridge) workstation and I upgraded my FX-8350 workstation to a Ryzen 7 1800X. It's a HUGE performance difference, with potentially more once the DDR4 and BCLK issues on my X370 Professional Gaming/Bios version 2.00 are brought up to parity with Asus and Gigabyte.

At least that is my wish...


Posted By: bapi23
Date Posted: 04 May 2017 at 6:16pm
I was refering to games frame rates - it was only couple of frames more in most cases. Of course there are cases when it was more than 10%. Anyway looks like even "ryzen memory" flare x has only 2400Mhz in 32gb version kit;/ but 16gb for me is not enough. I just don't see any better option now - looks like even with higher TridentZ 32gb it will not even work with 2666Mhz;/


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 10:15pm
Originally posted by Kevin A Kevin A wrote:


My timings for the Gskill 64GB F4-3200C16Q-64GTZKW Kit are:
12-12-12-29 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)


Link:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx%3cItem=N82E16820232329" rel="nofollow - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232329


Fook man. Two thumbs up on those timings! Nice. Very Nice! Those would look good on a 32GB Kit. Never mind you've done this with a 64GB Kit.



Posted By: Kevin A
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 10:45pm
" rel="nofollow - Understood, in gaming it will likely provide single digit performance increase going from DDR4@2400mhz to DDR4@3200mhz. I also gather how 'important' gaming is to many and a 'single digit' increase by going to 3200mhz or above may be found just 'ok'.

I went with a Gskill kit on my last couple of builds and had little issues that Gskill didn't address rather quickly. It was impressive so I went with a 'non-approved' Ryzen Memory kit from Gskill knowing that I could still achieve some performance out of them. I had some success with timings but not frequency, although this weekend maybe that will change. I d/l the new Bios(ver2.20) for the X370 Pro Gaming and will try out some of the reported DDR4 options. Who knows, maybe 2666mhz or above for me? Perhaps you too?





Posted By: Kevin A
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 10:52pm
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by Kevin A Kevin A wrote:


My timings for the Gskill 64GB F4-3200C16Q-64GTZKW Kit are:
12-12-12-29 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)


Link:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx%3cItem=N82E16820232329" rel="nofollow - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232329


Fook man. Two thumbs up on those timings! Nice. Very Nice! Those would look good on a 32GB Kit. Never mind you've done this with a 64GB Kit.



Thanks, however I just followed the info Aida64 reported in the SPD section and attempted the timings listed until I found the lowest stable configuration. And it has been 'rock solid'. I credit the X370 design with a great SOC/DDR4 power phase components and the Gskill kit for the 'win' on the tight timings.


Posted By: markp
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 9:01am
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

Originally posted by markp markp wrote:

Just a data point for everyone.
 
SLI Killer/AC Bios 2.10
G.Skill Tridentz 3600 Ram 8Gb (x2)
running the following timings 3200 14-14-14-14-34-1T
Booted right up with no drama.


What specific PN is the TridentZ kit? Users knowing that would be a useful data point WinkTongue


F4-3600C16D-16GTZ


Posted By: markp
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 9:10am
Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

" rel="nofollow - And congrats on the "booted right up".

Samsung B-die kit?


I don't know... I assume that a utility exists that could enlighten me.


Posted By: Kevin A
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 9:23am
HwInfo is one, Aida64 is another. They are both free but HwInfo may be more widely used.


Posted By: wardog
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by markp markp wrote:

Originally posted by wardog wardog wrote:

" rel="nofollow - And congrats on the "booted right up".

Samsung B-die kit?


I don't know... I assume that a utility exists that could enlighten me.


Without a doubt. Taiphoon Burner

http://softnology.biz/files/thphn_10100_profe_build_0506a.zip" rel="nofollow - http://softnology.biz/files/thphn_10100_profe_build_0506a.zip



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