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Topic: Samsung B-Die C14 Suggestions
Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Subject: Samsung B-Die C14 Suggestions
Date Posted: 08 May 2017 at 6:35am
" rel="nofollow - Can someone suggest a 16Gb B-Die set to pair with my X370 Killer SLI A/C?

I'm using the Noctua 12US cooler which makes the height of the ram irrelevant.

I would prefer base clock to be 3200 and black/white or black and white to stick with my white build.

I'm returning my other Ram sticks that I purchased before I knew about B-Die... Corsair Vengeance LED and G.Skill Ripjaws V.

Thanks in advance!



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Posted By: Kevin A
Date Posted: 08 May 2017 at 6:52am
I checked the ever 'popular' Rymem site for your board. Here is the link:

http://rymem.vraith.com/specific/5" rel="nofollow - http://rymem.vraith.com/specific/5

Apparently these all work on your board. Though I do not know the 'color' scheme they have, at least there are the part numbers. Hope it helps. With the part numbers you can find the size in GB's and then look them up on Zon, Egg or your 'fave' e-tailer of choice.


Also that site shows CPU-z images of the speeds of the memory and the timings used to achieve the specific frequency.




Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 08 May 2017 at 7:30am
" rel="nofollow - Ok I think I'll just run with the G.Skill Flair X. It isn't listed on my QVL, but maybe the update to my Bios this month will unlock its full potential.

Flair X:

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820232530?Keyword=F4-3200C14D-16GFX

Thank you for the website!


Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 08 May 2017 at 10:14am
Originally posted by AlbinoRhino AlbinoRhino wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Ok I think I'll just run with the G.Skill Flair X. It isn't listed on my QVL, but maybe the update to my Bios this month will unlock its full potential.

Flair X:

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820232530?Keyword=F4-3200C14D-16GFX

Thank you for the website!


I use that 16GB G.SKILL FlareX kit with my X370 Killer SLI/ac now, and it works fine but only up to 2933. I haven't tried it with extra high SOC voltage yet.

Most if not all of the G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 memory at 3200+ should be Samsung B-die.


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Posted By: Conraire
Date Posted: 08 May 2017 at 11:32am
Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

Originally posted by AlbinoRhino AlbinoRhino wrote:

" rel="nofollow - Ok I think I'll just run with the G.Skill Flair X. It isn't listed on my QVL, but maybe the update to my Bios this month will unlock its full potential.

Flair X:

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820232530?Keyword=F4-3200C14D-16GFX

Thank you for the website!


I use that 16GB G.SKILL FlareX kit with my X370 Killer SLI/ac now, and it works fine but only up to 2933. I haven't tried it with extra high SOC voltage yet.

Most if not all of the G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 memory at 3200+ should be Samsung B-die.


Neh, the Trident Z F4-3200C16D-16GTZB set I was previously using are Hynix, and wouldn't post above 2400 on my X370 Fatal1ty Pro Gaming no matter what I did.

I recently changed to the Flare X F4-3200C14D-16GFX kit, and all I had to do with those was set the XMP profile, and it booted right up at 3200 C14 1.35v.  Didn't have to tweak cpu/soc voltages or anything. 




Posted By: berner
Date Posted: 08 May 2017 at 2:34pm
I also have the Flare X kit and it's almost stable on my k4 x370 with SOC set to 1.1V. While i get no errors in memtest86 (4passes), I do get Memory related Bluescreens while gaming(especially in Assasins creed unity for whatever reason) if i have it set to 3200 so i run the ram at 2993 for the moment.


Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 09 May 2017 at 7:45am
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

Originally posted by AlbinoRhino AlbinoRhino wrote:

[URL=][/URL]Ok I think I'll just run with the G.Skill Flair X. It isn't listed on my QVL, but maybe the update to my Bios this month will unlock its full potential.

Flair X:

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820232530?Keyword=F4-3200C14D-16GFX

Thank you for the website!


I use that 16GB G.SKILL FlareX kit with my X370 Killer SLI/ac now, and it works fine but only up to 2933. I haven't tried it with extra high SOC voltage yet.

Most if not all of the G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 memory at 3200+ should be Samsung B-die.


The 2933 is great news as that is the speed I'm aiming for. I see other motherboard vendors have achieved the ability to enable this Ram to run at and above advertised speeds so I'm rooting for Asrock as well. Where I am hoping to run at 3200 in the the future it won't hurt my feelings if I end up only being able the he run at 2933.

We have the same mobo so I went ahead and ordered a set of the Flare X CL14s so they'll be there when I fly home.


Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 09 May 2017 at 8:12am
" rel="nofollow - When I take the Corsair Ram out of the case and replace them with the FlareX do I need to reset the Cmos or anything in the Bios prior to starting the system up the first time with the new Ram?


Posted By: parsec
Date Posted: 09 May 2017 at 9:35am
Yes, definitely clear the CMOS while you are installing the FlareX. Before you start, save your UEFI options in a profile if you haven't done that already. You'll need to change the memory settings but at least you can restore the other easily with a profile.

Let the FlareX start at first with all Auto settings for the memory options. It should default to 2400 and 1.2V. Just to check if it is working fine out of the box, mine was fine.

I haven't tried using the XMP profile since even manually I could not get the memory to work at 3200. It might work now with the new UEFI version, I haven't tried it.

I don't know if you've seen this, but there is a new option for memory overclocking in the Advanced, AMD CBS screen, called DRAM Timing Configuration. I had to set the Overclock option in that screen to Enabled before any manual memory speed changes would be applied. You can also set the timings in that screen.

I set the memory speed manually to 2933, with timings of 14 14 14 14 34, DRAM Voltage of 1.35V. Yes there are four timings to set to 14, the final one, Tras, is 34.

Posts above have inspired me to try the XMP profile, wish me luck! Geek



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Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 09 May 2017 at 5:33pm
" rel="nofollow - When clearing the CMOS do people just do a battery pull or do they also do the pin jumping?

If I also jump the pins do you place the jumper back in the original position before or after you put the battery back in?


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 09 May 2017 at 6:20pm
It makes no difference really. The jumper clears basic settings and the battery removal clears the RTC data as well as some deeper settings not accessable via the UI as well as basic settings. Generally I place the jumper in the clear position, remove the battery, let the system sit for an hour then put the jumper back to it's default position and replace the battery. All this with the power cord pulled from the system.

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Posted By: Kevin A
Date Posted: 09 May 2017 at 10:28pm
For your Mobo the User Manual(Yep... I'm one of 'those' - today at least... ) states:

CLRMOS1 allows you to clear the data in CMOS. To clear and reset the system parameters to default setup, please turn off the computer and unplug the power cord from the power supply. After waiting for 15 seconds, use a jumper cap to short pin2 and pin3 on CLRMOS1 for 5 seconds. However, please do not clear the CMOS right after you update the BIOS. If you need to clear the CMOS when you just finish updating the BIOS, you must boot up the system first, and then shut it down before you do the clear-CMOS action. Please be noted that the password, date, time, and user default profile will be cleared only if the CMOS battery is removed.


Enjoy.


Posted By: LordStreetguru
Date Posted: 09 May 2017 at 11:21pm
" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by AlbinoRhino AlbinoRhino wrote:

Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

[QUOTE=AlbinoRhino][URL=][/URL]



The Flare X is probably B-die
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232530

But it's the Trident Z 3200mhz CL 14 8x2GB kits that are B-die
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232205


The prices are just silly though


Posted By: datonyb
Date Posted: 10 May 2017 at 2:56am
Originally posted by LordStreetguru LordStreetguru wrote:

" rel="nofollow -
Originally posted by AlbinoRhino AlbinoRhino wrote:

Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

[QUOTE=AlbinoRhino][URL=][/URL]



The Flare X is probably B-die
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232530

But it's the Trident Z 3200mhz CL 14 8x2GB kits that are B-die
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232205


The prices are just silly though

trident z 3200 c15 is also samsung b die
the only freak to the tridentz line at or over 3200 is the cl16 kit can be hynix
anything with lower latencies or higher speed seems to be all samsung b dies
3200 and cl15 should be found for £150/$150


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3800X, powercolor reddevil vega64, gskill tridentz3866, taichix370, evga750watt gold


Posted By: Xaltar
Date Posted: 10 May 2017 at 3:05am
I have a 3600 B-Die Corsair vengeance kit all ready to roll once I get the parts together for my Ryzen build.

Model: CMK16GX4M2B3600C18(R)

The R just stands for Red so it isn't important in any way, it isn't any different to the "B" model (black).

Out of stock on newegg atm it seems. My kit came with the  Vengeance Airflow included so cost a bit more but it looks neat and you can color match it to red, blue, black and white builds so a nice touch.


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Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 10 May 2017 at 6:19am
Once the Flare X gets delivered tomorrow I will have $530 worth of ram sitting on my desk. I still have a couple of weeks on my 30 day return policy so once I get back in country next week I'll be returning 2 sets of ram.

It has gotten expensive and even with the costs that have risen I'm actually considering holding onto the Corsair LED ram in hopes that it will one day actually work.


Posted By: AlbinoRhino
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 6:10am
Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:

Yes, definitely clear the CMOS while you are installing the FlareX. Before you start, save your UEFI options in a profile if you haven't done that already. You'll need to change the memory settings but at least you can restore the other easily with a profile.

Let the FlareX start at first with all Auto settings for the memory options. It should default to 2400 and 1.2V. Just to check if it is working fine out of the box, mine was fine.

I haven't tried using the XMP profile since even manually I could not get the memory to work at 3200. It might work now with the new UEFI version, I haven't tried it.

I don't know if you've seen this, but there is a new option for memory overclocking in the Advanced, AMD CBS screen, called DRAM Timing Configuration. I had to set the Overclock option in that screen to Enabled before any manual memory speed changes would be applied. You can also set the timings in that screen.

I set the memory speed manually to 2933, with timings of 14 14 14 14 34, DRAM Voltage of 1.35V. Yes there are four timings to set to 14, the final one, Tras, is 34.

Posts above have inspired me to try the XMP profile, wish me luck! Geek



Have you tried the XMP profile on Bios v2.30 yet?



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